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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 08:13 AM
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Ex-Wildfire Chief Accused of Setting Fires
Edited on Fri Nov-11-05 08:14 AM by ElsewheresDaughter
PHOENIX - The former commander of an elite wildfire team that battled the largest blaze in Arizona history and aided in recovery efforts at the World Trade Center is accused of starting two fires last year, federal prosecutors said.

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Van Bateman, 55, was indicted Wednesday for allegedly setting the fires in the Coconino National Forest in 2004. He faces two federal counts of setting timber afire and two counts of arson on public lands. The first charge carries a maximum prison sentence of five years, while arson is punishable by up to 20 years, prosecutors said Thursday.

Bateman was a Type I incident commander, the head of a wildfire management crew that is called in for the biggest and most severe wildfires. His four-year term in that position expired in 2004 and he became leader of a slightly lower level team until he was indicted and put on paid leave, according to Forest Service officials


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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 08:15 AM
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1. A guy who is s'posed to defend against the crime, commits it himself?
Sure he's not on the Bush payroll? :crazy:
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 08:17 AM
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2. there are quite a few arsonists who join wildfire teams and fire depts
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 08:54 AM
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4. Or they become arsonists
This has happened a few times over the last few years, where it turns out that a firefighter actually started the fire.

It just blows my mind how someone could do that, especially the people who fight them?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 08:21 AM
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3. Wanna bet he's a Republican? n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 08:55 AM
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5. It doesn't have anything to do with politics
Edited on Fri Nov-11-05 09:14 AM by DoYouEverWonder
the people who do this are just really, really sick.


Edit: That wasn't even close to making sense before. Sorry.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 09:03 AM
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6. Like I said. Wanna bet he's a Republican? n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 09:12 AM
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8. You have a point
I suppose. Just like most of the pedophiles are priests and preachers.

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TX-RAT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 09:10 AM
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7. Just creating a little job security?
We had a string of fires around here 5 years ago, pastures, buildings, and cotton modules, were being torched on a regular basis. When we caught him, it turned out he was a Volunteer Fire Fighter for the county.
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ecoalex Donating Member (718 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 10:16 AM
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9. Extra pay on a slow Saturday
That's what the fire cheif's son said when he was arrested for the Railroad Flat Rd. fire in '89
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 11:17 AM
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10. I've said for years republicans were setting the wildfires
Edited on Fri Nov-11-05 11:19 AM by anotherdrew
here's yet another rethug arsonist. You see the way to prevent forest fires it to cut the forests down. Why? It makes a quick buck.
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Bloodblister Bob Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 11:23 AM
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11. Nothing new. Forest fires have long been started for jobs.
I grew up in Montana, and heard of this going on 45 years ago. People would start forest fires so they'd have work during the summer.
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Lexingtonian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:26 PM
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12. yep

Firefighters setting the things to prove themselves useful is an old story. In the West it's usually wildfires. Burning eyesore abandoned buildings- old factories- is a game everywhere else.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 12:57 PM
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13. that is a frequent occurrence in northern California
Edited on Fri Nov-11-05 12:58 PM by BareNakedLiberal
firefighters make so much money that when they get broke they go and start another fire.

edited for a typo
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