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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:50 AM
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Tobin asks court to dismiss phone jamming charges (vote conspiracy!)
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2005/11/10/tobin_asks_court_to_dismiss_phone_jamming_charges/
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Tobin asks court to dismiss phone jamming charges
By Beverley Wang, Associated Press Writer | November 10, 2005

CONCORD, N.H. --A former national Republican Party official will stand trial on charges he conspired to jam Democratic get-out-the-vote phone lines on Election Day 2002, a federal judge said Thursday.

James Tobin of Bangor Maine sought dismissal of conspiracy charges, arguing the government's allegations were insufficient. Judge Steven McAuliffe denied those motions, but said he would consider a motion to dismiss another charge, relating to violating others' right to vote. A trial is scheduled to begin Dec. 6.

Racially motivated beatings, destroying, altering, falsifying and refusing to count ballots had been decreed by other courts as violations of the right to vote, but jamming phone lines to prospective voters has not, lawyer Tobin Romero said Thursday.

...Two of Tobin's GOP associates, former New Hampshire Republican chairman Chuck McGee, and consultant Allen Raymond, have already pleaded guilty to phone-jamming conspiracy charges. Both were fined and sentenced to several months in prison; both have cooperated with investigators.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:56 AM
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1. Looks like Tobin will join his jailbird buddies for a stay. nm
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:04 AM
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2. Very nice! (Guess sometimes conspiracy theories are true!)
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:16 AM
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3. Glad to see them all getting jail time it won't be long enough for
their crimes.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:16 AM
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4. Hoping Tobin's efforts to avoid penalty will go down in flames.
It would be unbearable if the judge refused to see through his defense. From the article:
Prosecutors countered that the intent to blocking voters outweighed the means of deterring them.

"There is no reason to do it if it isn't to keep someone from voting," said prosecutor Nicholas Marsh.
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Hundreds of computer generated hang-up calls paralyzed Democratic get-out-the-vote and ride-to-the-polls phone lines in several New Hampshire cities for more than an hour on Nov. 5, 2002, the year of a closely watched Senate race won by Republican John Sununu against Democrat Jeanne Shaheen. The hang-up calls also affected a nonpartisan line operated by Manchester's firefighter's union.
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We've seen for decades how little honor there is among these A-####'s. They shouldn't keep getting away with this vicious, criminal behavior.

Were you aware of this?
GOP Paying Legal Bills of Bush Official
Republicans Paying Legal Bills of Bush Campaign Official Accused of Voter Suppression



James Tobin of Bangor, Maine, is seen is a Dec. 13, 2004 photo as he arrives at U.S. District Court in Concord, N.H.. Tobin, former Bush-Cheney '04 New England regional campaign director, has pleaded innocent and is scheduled to stand trial in September on federal charges related to a conspiracy of illegal phone jamming in a get-out-the-vote operation for Election 2002. (AP Photo/Jim Cole, File)
By JOHN SOLOMON Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON Aug 11, 2005 — Despite a zero-tolerance policy on tampering with voters, the Republican Party has quietly paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to provide private defense lawyers for a former Bush campaign official charged with conspiring to keep Democrats from voting in New Hampshire.

At the time, Tobin was the RNC's New England regional director, before moving to President Bush's 2004 re-election campaign.
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http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/wireStory?id=1027860&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 05:14 AM
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5. Justice certainly isn't moving very swiftly here...
This happened in 2002 for christs' sakes. This guy should be in prison already.

Rp
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 08:06 AM
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6. The GOP is paying for his legal fees
Edited on Fri Nov-11-05 08:07 AM by formercia
and you can be sure all of their big guns have been working under the table to quash this because this will lead right to Frist's door.
This trial is a lot more important that it might first seem.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 11:31 AM
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7. Frist??? Didn't know there was a connection. I was just glad that some of
the DUers who have been claiming that there has been vote fraud have had their claims verified by this. And it wasn't just low level people, it was the local Republican bigwigs. What connection is there to Frist???
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 01:36 PM
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10. Yes, please tell us more about
a possible Frist connection.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:25 PM
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11. Frist was in charge
Edited on Fri Nov-11-05 02:26 PM by formercia
of the GOP National Senatorial election campaign. I believe Tobin was the New England director of the GOP Senatorial election campaign and answered to Frist.
So Frist is the next predator in the GOP food chain.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:57 PM
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12. So you're saying Frist is involved in a "buck stops here" sort of way,
Edited on Fri Nov-11-05 02:59 PM by Wordie
rather than by any specific wrongdoing on his part? Because if you had any verifiable info on the latter, or even info that Frist knew about Tobin's actions, that would be a VERY big deal. Could you clarify that?

As it is, it still makes Frist look really bad, doesn't it? Because even if he didn't know, he SHOULD have. (Hmm, where have I heard that before? Is there some sort of pattern here?)
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:38 PM
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14. The Prosecutor is going up the Chain of Command
Edited on Fri Nov-11-05 03:39 PM by formercia
It will remain to be seen what the Prosecutor knows and what other evidence will be revealed during the trial, but it will be a matter of public record and may provide sufficient evidence to indict Frist.

Stay tuned folks and keep your ears and eyes open on this one.
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Wordie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 06:57 PM
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18. Keep us updated, formercia. eom
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 01:05 PM
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9. so what up with Frist? Send some links! n/t
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VaYallaDawg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:44 PM
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16. Wait till you see how slow justice grinds for Scooter. n/t
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 04:55 PM
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17. Most surely beyond the 2006 elections
after that, it won't matter much anyway.
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 01:00 PM
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8. Another GOPIG
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 02:59 PM
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13. McGee and Raymond are my neighbors
"Guests" and the very nice federal facility at Devens, Ma.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 03:41 PM
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15. Give us their address
Edited on Fri Nov-11-05 03:49 PM by formercia
so we can send them some pink panties, red pumps and a bag of disposable razors.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-11-05 11:25 PM
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19. formercia
From what rock did you crall? Haven't seen you in ages.

These puke cons are at the federal prison at Devens, Ma.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 08:51 AM
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20. LOL------my lips are sealed
I crawl from rock to rock. Makes me harder to find. lol
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SomewhereOutThere424 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-12-05 02:47 PM
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21. And yet
With the knowledge of so many conspiracies such as this, they won't do a full investigation on the whole of the voting operation? Sounds like they're stealing from peter to pay paul...
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