Bill Clinton says his wife would make a better president than he did

[ECH1969]

Former President Clinton says his wife, Hillary, would do a better job as president than he did in the White House.

Clinton says his wife has experience as a first lady and politician. So, he says, "in a way she has the best of both worlds." The former president also says his wife wouldn't make as many mistakes because, as he put it, "we're older and more mature."

Clinton was interviewed in Jerusalem, where he's marking the tenth anniversary of the assassination of Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin.

http://www.wavy.com/Global/story.asp?S=4077244&nav=menu45_2_6

[Moochy]

1. Anyone else tired of the same two names?

Bush Clinton Bush Clinton

When did this country get taken over by two royal families?

just sayin... didn't we kick the royalty out in 1776?

[billbuckhead]

2. Clinton's are hardly a royal family

[Moochy]

11. If Hilary wins, they'll be an interrupted dynasty

Obviously the Clintons are not royal in the British sense the way the Bushes are, ie. in the breeding, and pedigree sense, I'm only referring to our (the US Electorate) recent run on political dynasties.

The Bush ancestral line goes back to lord high mucky muck the third of a little island north of france. :)

So, perhaps 'dynasty' would have been a better term.

[Inland]

34. In the sense that the Cowboys had a football dynasty, right?

In the sense of repeated success of an associated group of people, not in the sense of royalty, privilege or right by succession.

Yah, I got tired of the Yankees dynasty, too.

[Moochy]

37. Yes, like the yankees dynasty

Mostly yes, in that sense. But I'm interested though the degree of entitlement many seem to think HRC deserves through her marriage to Clinton. I think that there is an unhelathy dose of nepotism involved here, since I feel another candidate reflects my values, and I think it's naive to deny that aspect of Hilary's run in 2008.

If she's the candidate in November 2008, though, I'll be 500% behind her at that point. It's how our system works.

[sallyseven]

38. Maybe she has proved herself to be a

great Senator for New York. Maybe because she is bright, intelligent and a decent person. Maybe because she is knowledgeable and a much better person than anyone else running.

[Maine-ah]

57. It's not acutually in the breeding.

It's the in-breeding that makes the difference in reference to royalty. It really explains a lot. ;)

[Daphne08]

3. Yes, and...

Hillary will mobilize the Right-Wing against us as it's never been mobilized before. While that may be just delicious for some, I think our country needs to be healed... not further divided.

Just my 2 cents. :eyes:

[TallahasseeGrannie]

4. I like Hilary

I LOVE Hilary...but if she runs we are doomed.

[liberalnurse]

15. We already know we don't want her to run....for President....

but......the repugs and the DLC are daily shoving her down our throats. How can we stop this without wasting time and energy or offending good Democrats?:banghead:

[TallahasseeGrannie]

17. She is so much more valuable

in the Senate. I don't know how to get that message across. I know a whole lot of "swing" voters who would swing right on over to Guiliani or McCain or any besides "the Hildabeast."

Now, I think maybe she could get in the back door as VP?

[Moochy]

21. A Stalking horse VP Candidate?

that steps down post-election? :-)

Help me to understand your back door option with Hilary as VP?

[TallahasseeGrannie]

23. I never heard of "stalking horse" VP

but I think the country can handle her as VP. And then in 8 years, she will still be young enough to run if all goes well?

I would support her 100% but I know she comes with a lot of baggage from her husband's administration. I'd like to pretend that isn't so, but I can't. I always felt Kerry was not electable because of his Vietnam baggage. I knew enough military folks for whom his name was poison, and I think when you start out with a whole segment of the population already totally against you, you are doomed.

It is to his credit that he got so damned close.

[Moochy]

24. "Stalking horse"

This term refers to when a party runs a candidate which is not expected to win, and switches to another one before the election.

I agree she could become president if she were the VP. And she'd likely get alot more of the hilary haters on board.

Something used to cover one's true purpose; a decoy.
2. A sham candidate put forward to conceal the candidacy of another or to divide the opposition.
3. a. A horse trained to conceal the hunter while stalking.
3. b. A canvas screen made in the figure of a horse, used for similar concealment.

Thanks for the clarification, cheers!
:hi:

[bilgewaterbill]

46. Hillary will own the Senate.

Her war chest and influence on the party in '06 will vault her to true power. She will name the new Majority Leader (Obama?) and even influence the new leadership in the House (Emanuel?)

[Kolesar]

25. She hasn't much appeal to us Democrats, but the media does not know that

At the least, the media is guilty of doing poor research on their stories. If Hillary ran for president, she would achieve the same arc as did Joe Lieberman. She would poll high because of name recognition, but soon be passed by others.

[bilgewaterbill]

45. DOOMED!

[the observationist]

6. Re: Hillary will divide

I don't think the country can be any more divided than it already is. Bush has split families, mine included. If Hillary runs I'll vote for her because I'm sick of stupid white guys. We really need a minority or woman to run for president. It will do this country a lot of good to have another perspective besides middle aged white guys.

signed - stupid white guy

[msmcghee]

16. Do you think the RW . .

. . has been holding back, keeping some of their powder dry in case Hillary is nominated?

Do you think they will not trash and destroy and Swift Boat and purple bandaid whoever we nominate? That they'll hold back on some of their dirty tricks and lies and be nicer and fairer to Dems - if we nominate someone other than Hillary?

Hah. What are you smokin'? The best defense with these a**wipes is full on offense. I say stick it to them with Hillary to the hilt - make them moan in pain and anguish. Then slowly twist the blade.

Hillary to the hilt - I like the sound of that.

[merwin]

26. You actually think that there is a Democratic candidate that the right

wing WON'T use to mobilize the right against the left?

[Andromeda]

55. ANY Democrat is going to be....

mobilized against. It doesn't matter who wins the nomination; they will be hammered by the GOP.

You could run Jesus Christ and the right-wing would dig up as much dirt as they could about him.

Nobody is immune against the right-wing attack machine. At least Hillary has had a lot more practice dealing with them.

[Pharlo]

5. Bush - Clinton - Bush - Rodham

Does that alleviate your tedium?

[Moochy]

12. Hmm checking

Nope. I want someone who'se name I've never heard of. Like Clinton's name back in 1992. New blood, new ideas!

That being said I'll vote for HRC if she's the one on the 2009 ticket.

[merwin]

27. I'm only tired of one of those two names...

and it's not Clinton :-)

[Moochy]

32. Fair enough

I'm not a Clinton hater, by ANY stretch, I'm just musing openly about when the US turned the corner on this issue.

I'd love to be suprised by some dark horse candidate who suprises me with his or her conviction, and lack of baggage!

[henslee]

40. Methinks Gore/Clark's a powerhouse/vote getting ticket w/ plenty of smarts

And everyone likes a comeback story. It just seems like a solid ticket.
Am I nuts?

[celestia671]

7. What would he be called...

as husband of the President? First Husband?

[Moochy]

9. First Gentleman ?

First Lady
First Lord? or maybe First Gentleman?

Sorry If I seem to be harping on that whole royalty idea :)

[Pharlo]

18. First Gentleman or First Spouse....

I would think.

Another conundrum:

Will Billary then be referred to as Hilliam?

[Moochy]

19. See, Gentleman sounds like royalty to me :)

:hide:

[99Pancakes]

30. I've been pondering this myself

How do you refer to a former President as the husband of a current President? This would set a precedent.

[Robb]

35. A prescient president precedent!

Pardon me whilst I go gargle some Drano. :silly:

[wordpix2]

49. He would still be called, "President Clinton." x-presidents retain the

title

[William769]

8. ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2225512

[Missy M]

10. Hillary would make a very good president. Let's face it no matter...

who the Democrats put up as their candidate it will galvanize the right wing. Everyone has to stop being afraid of the right wingers and just fight them tooth and nail. I don't agree with everything Hillary stands for but then again I don't agree 100% with any candidate. I would love to see her as the first woman president because the time is way overdue for having a woman as president in the US.

[renaissanceguy]

14. Alas, a voice of reason.

I'm amazed at how many people on here are afraid of the RWers. OF COURSE they will oppose whoever we nominate--and they should! If they didn't, then we probably have a candidate too far to the right. Do people not recall the '04 primaries--trying to find someone "electable," someone who wouldn't rock the boat too much?? That sure worked... :sarcasm:

We need to stand by our principles and vote our conscience. We can't be afraid of these RW lunatics. Because if we continue to vote and nominate according to what pleases them, then we might as well roll over and let them run/ruin the country.

[merwin]

29. And to not vote for her just because of her name is ridiculous.

[Moochy]

33. It's not ridiculous to be against her in the primaries

I'll vote for her in a second, with no reservations if she makes it through the primaries.

[merwin]

36. I completely agree. That's what the primaries are for.

We choose who we want to represent us from a large group of Democratic candidates... I don't even know if I would vote for her in the primaries. But if she did make it past the primaries, then I would have absolutely no reservations voting for her as president :-)

[wmills551]

31. What a great post.

[DemExpat]

56. Totally agree here....

:thumbsup:

DemEx

[Double T]

13. I don't know if this country is ready for an intelligent, articulate......

President. It might be too much of a shock to everyone's system.

[patricia92243]

22. lol - it would take awhile to adjust. :)

[still_one]

20. you have your opinion bill I have mine

[goforit]

41. Here here!!!

She will be too easily pushed around by the neocons.
As she was in the senate.

Hillary ...President?.....No Thank you.

[Cha]

28. Cause she wouldn't be

screwin' around in the Oval Office?

[chelsea0011]

39. I for one want to see Hillary run. She won't get the nomination and

it will be great theater watching her swat away repuke attacks. If it's one thing I am certain of is that this election will be against the bush crime family and the fundie takeover of power and not Dems beating up on each other. Hillary will only add to the attacks.

[anotherdrew]

42. too bad she hasn't earned it. After another term in the senate, maybe

[Hardrada]

43. This is the best idea.

Let her serve some more and get some kind of track record.

[Neil Lisst]

44. I love Bill, but he's wrong about Hillary.

She'll never be elected president.

[JJackFlash]

47. She's even smarter

and wouldn't have his problem of thinking with the wrong organ.
Not very liberal, though - she would be a repugnican of thirty years ago, back when they were sane.

[leesa]

48. Not interested. She hasn't the moral clarity to publicly state that the

war in Iraq is illegal and immoral. I have no use for these kind of people...no wonder the GOP and their corporate media are pushing her for our candidate. GE would LOVE endless war and endless profits.

[wordpix2]

50. I think Hill would be great and we get Bill for free, also great if he

can keep it in his pants

[The Flaming Red Head]

51. Now, you know he's getting some

But from who?

[oregonindy]

52. She is a carpet bagging war monger and just another demopublican

[occuserpens]

53. WJC wants to kill off dems

It is this simple - HRC4POTUS means end of dems :-(

[upi402]

60. Hillary Rodham Clinton for President of United States = doom

My ultra-secret liberal decoder ring comes in handy sometimes!
;)

[BenDavid]

54. When it comes time

that we on the left, whether you are conservative,moderate, progressive, or liberal we need to have one voice. Sure there will be enough time when the campaign begins and we all chose what camp we will support, but when the votes have all been counted and Hillary Clinton is our nominee,( that is if she decides to run) then we should all be singing from the same page.

Hillary Clinton has been the most investigated woman in America. They found nothing on her during the Whitewater hearings, and found nothing on her from any other sources. Oh and by the way did you know the Whitewwater hearings could have concluded after December 1995 when The Madison, Pillsbury report came down and said there were no there, there(my words) on either Clinton.

I like the way Hillary has handled herself since becoming a Senator. Speaking out on issues that she knows something about and does not as some Senators do, voice an opinion about anything and everything. I also respect her for not saying anything about running for President in 2008. Hell, if she did that then all these so called "liberal" writers like MoDowd would begin attacking her daily. MoDowd writes a few articles critical of bush and some on the left are pinning medals on her ass, but they also forget that this same MoDowd was critical of Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004 along with many of these so called "liberal" writers. Hillary needs to do as she is doing. Playing her cards close to the chest and not giving an inch on her future aspirations.

All I am saying in conclusion: if she decides to run and you support her, then do it with gusto. If you support another candidate, then support that candidate with gusto, but when the dust settles and whether it be Hillary or someone else, we all need to support the Democratic candidate for President. Remember this in the 08 election. If we are going to win and I include 2006 in this too. We all cannot be a just a bear. We got to be a damn GRIZZLEY.

[occuserpens]

58. ???

<that we on the left, whether you are conservative,moderate, progressive, or liberal we need to have one voice. >

Sorry, but I have no idea what it means "left conservative, moderate, progressive, or liberal"! There are left liberals, but left con is simply an oxymoron.

<Hillary Clinton is our nominee,( that is if she decides to run) then we should all be singing from the same page.>

I've heard about HRC4POTUS from the far-right (Safire) quite for some time. Now it finally comes from WJC himself :-(

<Hillary Clinton has been the most investigated woman in America. They found nothing on her during the Whitewater hearings, and found nothing on her from any other sources.>

Who cares? GOP will find whatever they want any time.

<I like the way Hillary has handled herself since becoming a Senator. Speaking out on issues that she knows something about and does not as some Senators do, voice an opinion about anything and everything.>

When it is of no importance. When it comes to something important like war in Iraq or tax cuts, she is either pro-GOP or incomprehensible.

<MoDowd writes a few articles critical of bush and some on the left are pinning medals on her ass, but they also forget that this same MoDowd was critical of Gore in 2000 and Kerry in 2004 along with many of these so called "liberal" writers.>

Dowd is simply irrelevant, she makes no sense.

<All I am saying in conclusion: if she decides to run and you support her, then do it with gusto.>

It is quite obvious that HRC will lose by a landslide to any reasonable GOP candidate. This is exactly why GOP wants her.

[upi402]

59. No more DINO's

eff 'em
they effed us!