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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:56 PM
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Senator (Schumer) seeks explanation from Bush in case of outed CIA spy
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 01:46 PM by Stephanie
Go Chuck!



Senator seeks explanation from Bush in case of outed CIA spy

14 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) - A top Democratic senator called on US
President George W. Bush to reveal what, if anything, he knew about the involvement of senior White House officials in outing the identity of an undercover CIA agent.

In a letter to the president, Democratic Senator Charles Schumer cited press reports alleging that Bush reportedly had spoken with his Deputy Chief of Staff Karl Rove about the case involving outed spy Valerie Plame in 2003.

In comments to the press however "the White House issued emphatic and blanket denials of any involvement in the disclosure or confirmation of Ms. Plames status as a CIA agent," Schumer wrote.

"In light of these reports, I urge you to make public the details of Mr. Roves involvement, your understanding of that involvement, and an explanation as to why Mr. Rove was neither dismissed nor his security clearance revoked when you learned of his participation in the Plame affair."

<more>

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051019/pl_afp/usjusticeme...




*edit* The letter is here >

http://schumer.senate.gov/SchumerWebsite/pressroom/pres...





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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 12:57 PM
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1. Thank you Sen. Schumer. n.t
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:00 PM
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2. Congressional Hearings, please!!
We need the equivalence of the Senate Watergate Hearings.
We also need resolutions of inquiry in the House Judiciary Committee.

We need them to start now.
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shraby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:07 PM
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12. We do not need hearings which might
tend to give immunity to any perps for their testimony. That happened in Iran Contra and Ollie North walked because of his immunity. Let Fitz do his thing first.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:16 PM
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26. Absolutely, perhaps the White House is angeling and hoping for
a hearing for that exact reason.
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 09:32 PM
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39. Easy to understand why
yhey might want them: to get immunity. However, the WH could have arranged to have hearings at any time over the course of this thing AND to give immunity to whoever was involved.

"Speaker Hastert, we need hearings."
"Got 'em"
"Good Doggie"
"Now, we need blanket immunity for this list of people"
"Got it .. gee that's a loooong list. Anything else"
"Catch this frisbee with your teeth ... Good Doggie.

Now that things are falling apart, it may be harder to get, though I'm sure they can still get the leadership of the House to roll over and play dead.

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LosinIt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:00 PM
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3. What did he know and when did he know it?
sounds vaguely familiar???
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:25 PM
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31. all us old coots do!
-and it sounds like beautiful music-
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Metta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:03 PM
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4. "Too close, too close for comfort ...."
There's a song for every occasion.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:03 PM
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5. Me thinks our senators are going to be quite busy. Meirs who? nt
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:03 PM
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6. Yeah! The 'Pukes will demand a full accounting of this right now
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:05 PM
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7. Average (7 votes) keep the rating up folks. this is important.
RECOMMEND THIS STORY

Recommend It:

Average (7 votes)
4.9 stars
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:06 PM
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9. that will be a cold day in hell.
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PearliePoo2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:06 PM
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8. Ok, good start
BUT, he and others need to be asking this on the talk shows, radio, everywhere!
Say it loud and say it often. Raise this to the public's consciousness until the Media Whores can't ignore it any longer.
Happy though, to read on Yahoo and I gave it a 5.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:07 PM
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11. so we should all contact his office and say-get on the talk shows.
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bee Donating Member (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:07 PM
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10. excellent. Id bet money that hes considering a run in 08.
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 01:09 PM by bee
He was on the daily show not too long ago. And John asked him a question to the effect of ~ what are 08 hopefulls doing now to prepare and he said well.. Im here on this show. John didnt pry... but I definintely got the impression that hes thinking of running. And he certainly seems to be stepping up.

edit to add: he was great on the show, IMO. I enjoyed him more than the recent Edwards interview.
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:33 PM
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18. screw hil we want schumer
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bee Donating Member (894 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:11 PM
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25. I confess to not knowing much about Chuck...
but hes not DLC... which puts him way above h as far as Im concerned. Plus.. he has an instant likability factor and as far as I know, isnt openly loathed by a large number of people in his own party. Ill have to do some research. But as of this moment... I like him a lot.
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:13 PM
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13. Now the Democrats want to get involve where have you
been guys!!! I guess you didn't want to make it political!!!
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quiet.american Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:19 PM
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14. "14 minutes ago" -- sweet!
Great to see our senators not letting any grass grow under their feet!
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Mister K Donating Member (338 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:27 PM
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15. Bush testified in leak case?
The report says that President Bush testified in the case. I hope he didn't lie for his sake. Or at least nothing that can be proven....
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MGKrebs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:45 PM
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22. His testimony wasn't under oath.
Unfortunately.
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:02 PM
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24. What are you, a Bush supporter? n/t
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Punkingal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:28 PM
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16. Wow!
They must really be smelling blood in the water. I was expecting no comments until actual indictments!
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natrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:32 PM
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17. booshe will ignore
bring on the wilson civil trial with his emptiness on the stand
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:36 PM
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19. Hot Damn!....
:wow: Now we are talking!

Sitting here awaiting the response from the chimperor. :popcorn:
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:40 PM
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20. you better stock up on the popcorn as you will have a LONG wait.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:41 PM
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21. nominate
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troubleinwinter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 01:55 PM
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23. Indeed, why wasn't Rove's security clearance revoked !!
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mamalone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:18 PM
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27. I am soooo proud of my senator!!
way to go Chuckie-boy!
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katty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 02:24 PM
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28. preparing the ground...he knows bush won't bite this hook
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:08 PM
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29. Finally! Someone in the SENATE with some 'nads!!
Edited on Wed Oct-19-05 06:08 PM by Roland99
Members of the House have been holding the torch for months. 'bout time it was handed off to the Senate.

You know what, though? If the Propagandist hadn't issued that Executive Order ending the Senate Investigative Committee, we would be on track to find out what we were supposed to know before the election last year!
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:30 PM
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53. yes, grand for him.
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:22 PM
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30. I Voted For Schumer ...
... and, I must admit, there have been times in the past that I've wondered if my vote was in vain.

As far as I'm concerned, he just EARNED IT IN SPADES!!!!!
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:26 PM
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32. S'bout time!
Thanks Chuck!
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AnneD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:45 PM
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33. I have watched Sen Schumer on various programs
like Week in Review on Fox, or other programs on PBS etc. He is always well spoken, intelligent, and fearless. He really holds feet to the fire. He has New York written all over him, so I don't know how he would sell in the South, but I have grown to like and respect him. He is on the judicial comittee and nixed John Roberts and many of the bone headed judicial appointments. He seems to vote true DEM and is a potential DWAS (Democrat with a spine).
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Laurab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:43 PM
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43. I agree
I don't watch the programs, so don't know about that, but Schumer has been one of the most vocal true Dem senators. At least in the past year or two, since I started actually paying attention. He's my senator, as Hillary is, and to be honest, I haven't seen much out of Hillary. Schumer, on the other hand, is growing more and more spine as the nightmare of the * administration goes on. I too have grown to like and respect him, for the same reasons you mentioned ("well spoken, intelligent, and fearless"), and I thought I was the only one who'd noticed.

I feel that of my two senators, he's the one standing up for me. I don't like to bash any dem, and I like Hillary ok, but I really haven't seen her do anything that makes her stand out from anyone else. Schumer does - he's been vocal, and he's getting even more so. It's good to see him speaking out, and I hope he doesn't let up.
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:47 PM
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34. Anybody got Chuck's back? Like, say, Hilary?
Let's hear the entire Dem minority out crying foul. Until my ears hurt.
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madmark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:56 PM
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35. Why did it take so long for the request and why didn't more dem
senators make it.
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MellowOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:56 PM
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36. It's about time
Thank you Mr. Schumer. We need more of the same from other senators. It's time to get to the bottom of the leak which could answers other questions for all of us.
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Mountainman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 06:57 PM
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37. Wow, another letter from a Dem to Bush !
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:09 AM
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46. A strongly worded, well written letter at that.
These letters will somehow teach Bush a lesson one day.
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adigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 08:05 PM
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38. Go, Chuckie, Go!!!
The funniest thing about Chuck Schumer is that even "stauch republican" voters such as my parents in NY LOVE Chuck Schumer!!! He is very liberal, but is a straight shooter, and he won NY with, like, 71% of the vote last time. Everyone but the most insane partisans love him. :-)
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kurth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 09:41 PM
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40. Schumer/Boxer for 2008!
Battle-tested. Gutsy. Bicoastal.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:18 PM
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Schumer vote for the Iraq invasion
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LetsGoMurphys Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 09:42 PM
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41. One of the few with any Stugots we have..n/t
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PurpleChez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-19-05 10:18 PM
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42. Mad props to Chuck Shumer!
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 12:47 AM
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44. Don't miss Olbermann's take on the Daily News article on *'s involvement
It's the subject of this thread. The video link is given late in the thread, as is a cross-post to this current one on Schumer's letter citing the same article.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
Thread title: MSNBC/Olbermann tonight: the huge Plame leak case news re *s involvement

(And don't miss the Toles cartoon in the OP - it's priceless!)
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:05 AM
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45. DEMs need to talk about this on TV appearances.
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 01:07 AM by Dr Fate
Letters are cool, but you cant see them on TV or hear them on the radio.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 01:11 AM
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47. thanks for adding the link to the letter
i was looking for it! i heard malloy read it on his show and thought: Go Chuck!
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 02:15 AM
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48. Like so many letters to Bush, it will be ignored and the story will die.
Edited on Thu Oct-20-05 02:16 AM by Seabiscuit
Because Congress never follows up on any of it and the press ignores it.
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:10 AM
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50. But-but- the letter was strongly worded - and posted on the INTERNET!!!
Where net-roots donors will see it.

SO STOP SAYING DEMS ARE NOT FIGHTING!!! When you say DEMs are not fighting, we can point to a large stack of well-written letters to prove you wrong!!!

They have been writing tough letters for 5 years- what more do you want?
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Seabiscuit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 11:55 AM
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51. LOL!
N.B.: I never said "dems are not fighting". I only referenced Congress and the MSM, both of which ignore such letters.

It is gratifying, of course, to read of such letters on the "internets". :)~
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Dr Fate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 12:18 PM
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52. They should hand write them- good penmanship intimidates Republicans.
n/t
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-20-05 02:18 AM
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49. That creep's official answer is "no comment."
Personal responsibility my ass.
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 03:58 AM
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54. wouldn't it be a miracle if * responded in an honest and professional
fashion???
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Toots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 07:53 AM
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55. My Daddy used to say "Wish in one hand and crap in the other, see which
one gets full the quickest." This will just provide amusement for the Cabal and will get treated like every other request from the Democrats. IOW silence.....
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 08:11 AM
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56. Bush is el numero uno official that allows treason to fester!!!
He is totally responsible.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-21-05 11:49 AM
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57. Finally, someone other than Helen Thomas asking whether the President
has gotten to the bottom of it...and it not...why not?
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