Dems Pursue Ohio Election System Overhaul

[deadparrot]

COLUMBUS, Ohio - Democrats pushing an overhaul of the election system in Ohio — the state that swung the White House race to
President Bush last year — are hoping timing truly is everything.

To the Democrats' delight, the four overhaul measures will appear on the Nov. 8 ballot at a time when the long-ruling Republican Party is engulfed in both an ethics scandal and a furor over an ill-fated state investment in rare coins.

"I think the biggest argument for these amendments happens to be the fact that the Republicans are out there saying, `Well, we don't have a problem,'" said Paul Tipps, a former chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party.

Across the nation on Election Day, 39 issues will be decided in nine states, including a redistricting proposal in California backed by Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051005/ap_on_re_us/ohio_election_overhaul

[slay]

1. Ken Blackwell

Is most definitely a problem. I'm glad the Dems seem to finally be taking all the illegal crap that went on in Ohio in 2004 seriously.

[intheflow]

2. Nominated to keep it on the front burner.

Never forget * now has two ** next to his name!

*Edited to remind people to vote it up on Yahoo, too.

[applegrove]

3. Way to go Dems. Of course the Repukes like the system. It creates

mistrust and apathy in Dems.

They don't fix wedges that pay-off.

[tom_paine]

4. Nominated and kicked!

:kick:

[drfresh]

5. Nothing about voting machines in there?

Read the article and it seemed to only talk about redistricting change, nothing about voting machines themselves. I hope somebody tells those Ohio dems that Diebold is crooked...

[ecoalex]

6. The writer accepts the Ohio election

Mentioning the "swing to bush"Bullshit they stole Ohio!

[Chi]

8. Here's the summary...

* Issue 2: Makes it easier to vote by allowing all Ohioans to vote by mail
* Issue 3: Helps stop the influence of big money in elections by greatly reducing campaign contributions.
* Issue 4: Stops the politicians from drawing their own legislative districts and puts an Independent Commission in charge of this process.
* Issue 5: Places a bi-partisan Board of Supervisors in charge of Ohio's elections, instead of a partisan official who backs candidates and takes sides in elections.

http://www.reformohionow.org/

[RawMaterials]

10. Hamilton CO

is going all electronic "Diebold"
this is very bad news. Hamilton is the county for cincy.

[mod mom]

12. You mean the Ohio Dems, like the Chair of the Franklin County Dem Party

who said (at a House Administration Committee meeting in March held in Columbus, OH) that the Ohio election was fair and anyone who said otherwise was a "conspiracy theorist" ? Remember, Columbus was the site of the 5+ hour waits in inner city low income African American neighborhoods, while the suburban precincts (read repuke) did not have horrendous waits. You call that fair? We need to clean house in the ODP!

That said, this RON group was not spear-headed by the OH Dem Party and 3 of the 4 initiatives are very important. Issue 2, EARLY VOTING, sounds good because one thinks it can address the long lines, but it leaves open a giant window of opportunity for fraud in that the time involved cannot be closely monitored. Issues 3,4, & 5 are tres important!

[The Doctor.]

7. So let me get this straight...

The proposal is going to be voted on on the same machines that gave ** victory?

[Kolesar]

13. NO

[The Doctor.]

22. Is that wishful thinking, or do you have an explanation?

I mean, they put an anti-gay measure on the ballot which was 'voted for' in 2004 on the same machines that cast Kerry votes for Bush.

Somehow I have to be skeptical unless you know something I don't.

[mod mom]

9. Reform Ohio Now (RON) has put together 4 voter initiatives to help

level the playing field in Ohio politics:

Issue 2 - Makes it easier to vote by allowing all Ohioans to vote by mail.
Issue 3 - Helps stop the influence of big money in elections by greatly reducing campaign contributions.
Issue 4 - Stops the politicians from drawing their own legislative districts and puts an Independent Commission in charge of this process.
Issue 5 - Places a bi-partisan Board of Supervisors in charge of Ohio's elections instead of a partisan politician.

Ohio is so over run with partisan corrupt hacks, these are the only way to institute changes to rectify the system. They are currently running aa fund raising drive and if any of you DU-ers can, please donate at:


https://secure.democracyinaction.org/dia/organizations/ron/shop/custom.jsp?donate_page_KEY=962&t=donate

[mzmolly]

11. Democrats?

Gosh, I thought they gave up on that "fighting" thing? ;)

[Kolesar]

14. yeah, Ohio Democrats suck

[OzarkDem]

15. Lets get out the vote on these issues!

Grow Ohio.org has a list of contacts for yard signs, etc.

http://www.growohio.org/

[Twist_U_Up]

16. Thank You JOHN CONYERS !!!! Its because of you !!!!

The Man Of The Year :loveya: :yourock:

If he didnt get behind this from day one,would this be even talked about? I don`t think so!!!!

[mzmolly]

21. And us.

:hi:

I second that thanks to Mr. Conyers.

[Judi Lynn]

17. Dems Pursue Ohio Election System Overhaul

Dems Pursue Ohio Election System Overhaul

By JOHN McCARTHY
Associated Press Writer

October 5, 2005, 1:50 PM EDT

COLUMBUS, Ohio -- Democrats pushing an overhaul of the election system in Ohio -- the state that swung the White House race to President Bush last year -- are hoping timing truly is everything.

To the Democrats' delight, the four overhaul measures will appear on the Nov. 8 ballot at a time when the long-ruling Republican Party is engulfed in both an ethics scandal and a furor over an ill-fated state investment in rare coins.

"I think the biggest argument for these amendments happens to be the fact that the Republicans are out there saying, `Well, we don't have a problem,'" said Paul Tipps, a former chairman of the Ohio Democratic Party.

Across the nation on Election Day, 39 issues will be decided in nine states, including a redistricting proposal in California backed by Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
(snip/...)

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-ohio-election-overhaul,0,7971818.story?coll=sns-ap-nationworld-headlines

[robbedvoter]

18. Why only Ohio? What about Florida? California?

The rest of the Diebold growing empire?

[mod mom]

20. also happening in FL according to the RON people, if successful MI, PA and

(I believe) 3 other state will be next. Testing the waters for important change!

[The Wielding Truth]

19. Please ,stay on it. Thanks

[jazzjunkysue]

23. 'bout friggin' time. This is what matters: Election fraud.

[natrat]

24. thats what im talkin about baby

[belle]

25. kick

[GetTheRightVote]

26. I took part in all of the actions concerning the stolen election

I hope Ohio is freed of the voting problems which still control Florida. Good luck to your state. I am kicking it for you.

:kick:

[eridani]

27. You can help out in Ohio (also California)

This November, there's no Presidential election. But voters will be making critical decisions that affect all of us, and you can influence the outcome.

In less than five weeks, voters in two pivotal states -- Ohio and California -- will help determine the direction for the rest of the country. In Ohio, proponents of clean elections have placed four excellent measures on the ballot that will prevent corruption and voter abuse. If enacted, election reform could sweep the country.

In California, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and his special interest allies have spent millions to put measures before the voters that are designed to gut health and education spending, dramatically weaken unions, and require a redistricting before the next census. If Arnold succeeds in these initiatives, you can be sure they will appear in other states as well.

Hundreds of millions of special interest dollars are being spent to defeat reform in Ohio and pass regressive measures in California.
But, we can all win by talking to voters one-on-one to increase understanding and voter turnout. Want to get plugged into the "ground game?"

Volunteer in California by clicking here. http://act.actforchange.com/cgi-bin7/DM/y/hiUz0JaCsB0QoP04Y60ET

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Can't Volunteer? By donating, you'll help sponsor grassroots efforts and special projects to mobilize the progressive vote November 8.
Donate in California by clicking here.

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Red State, Blue State, East Coast, Great Plains, or Desert Southwest -- the results of the California and Ohio elections will affect you, no matter where you live. Please, volunteer your time, give money or both. And, tell your friends to do the same. Together we can make a difference.

Sincerely,
Michael Kieschnick
President, Working Assets