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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:17 PM
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Pentagon dismisses new report on US military torture in Iraq

http://www.asiantribune.com/show_article.php?id=2737

Pentagon dismisses new report on US military torture in Iraq

A report from Human Rights Watch (HRW) provides chilling new details of the torture of Iraqi detainees by US forces. The report, issued September 24Leadership Failure: Firsthand Accounts of Torture of Iraqi Detainees by the US Armys 82nd Airborne Divisionis based on interviews with a US Army captain and two sergeants. It details abuse carried out at Forward Operating Base Mercury (FOB Mercury), near Fallajuh in Central Iraq, from 2003 through 2004.

The Pentagon has denounced the report as a politically motivated smear. Defense Department spokesman Lt. Col. John Skinner criticized it as an effort to advance an agenda through the use of distortions and efforts in fact. He made the remarkable claim that the military has looked at all aspects of detention operations under a microscope.

The soldiers accounts include such practices as hitting detainees with baseball bats, breaking limbs, placing them in stress positions, forcing them to form human pyramids, dousing them with cold water, exposing them to extremes of hot and cold, depriving them of sleep, and withholding food and water. The US troops committing the atrocities were nicknamed the Murderous Maniacs by the residents of nearby Fallujah, who were their victims. The abuse took place on a daily basis.

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jsamuel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:23 PM
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1. Just like Brownie was "doing a heck of a job" and FEMA was on the scene
the day after the Hurricane right?

Same thing. Every thing has been looked into and is under control. Nothing excapes the eyes of the Pentagon. Especially when they aren't even looking into it, because it isn't there.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:24 PM
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2. If This statement doesn't scare the pi$$ out of you, NOTHING WILL
"The Pentagon has denounced the report as a politically motivated smear."

Things that make you go :wtf:

A politically motivated smear??????

:wtf: does the Pentagon mean by that? If I'm not mistaken, I think our founding fathers made it pretty clear that the military was supposed to be apolitical.

How can you politically smear an institution that is NOT SUPPOSED TO BE POLITICAL??!!!!!

I hope this was just a poor choice of words, and the Pentagon spokesman will issue an immediate correction.
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:25 PM
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3. Everything unfavorable to them is...
"politically motivated." These fuckups can never accept responsibility for anything, yet they always preach "personal responsibility." Argh! These people need to be marched out of Washington IMMEDIATELY if there's any hope of repairing the damage they've done.
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maxrandb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:45 PM
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11. But what pi$$es me off is
that this is not the * mis-administration crying about a politically motivated smear.

It's not Tom Delay crying about a "politically motivated smear"

It the "blanking" Pentagon!! It's OUR military!!

They are not supposed to be political. This is how democracy dies.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:26 PM
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4. Even if the videotapes of the child raping are released they'll still DENY
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:28 PM
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5. blame it on the media
and liberals who are demoralizing our troops
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:30 PM
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6. Ayup...exactly. No one is accountable. No one.
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 02:30 PM by Roland99
The GOP is one big Blame Game.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:40 PM
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9. the world in tracking us on this!
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:29 PM
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15. You bet they are. We'd better "fix this" ASAP...
We've got to prove to the world that the only bastards in this country are the ones running OUR HOUSE!

Peace.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:51 PM
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12. actions of a deranged few
in the military...we just don't DO things like that :eyes:
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:36 PM
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7. As always, parse carefully for the truth
Notice, the headline says they "dismiss" this, not that they "deny" this.

"The Pentagon has denounced the report as a politically motivated smear. Defense Department spokesman Lt. Col. John Skinner criticized it as an effort to advance an agenda through the use of distortions and efforts in fact. He made the remarkable claim that the military has looked at all aspects of detention operations under a microscope."

Here, they denounce the report, not deny it. They mention distortions, which could be anything - e.g. a claim of a baseball hitting bat was a distortion because the it was really just a big stick. And what exactly is meant by denouncing something called "efforts in fact". It sounds like denouncing someone for telling the truth.

The details of the torture in the story seem very believable.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:39 PM
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8. Seems like everyone in this Administration are Graduates
of "Bab's Finishing School" for General Officers.

You peasants need to move along to something positive now ... or else! <snarf>
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:41 PM
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10. torture=politics?
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Lindsay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:51 PM
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13. No, torture = business as usual.
Reporting torture = politics.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:59 PM
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14. A 'smear' that Republican John McCain wants fully investigated?
And he's joined Republican John Warner and Republican Lindsey Graham to require the military to obey the Geneva conventions? It's a few vaguely honorable men from Bush's own party that wants this investigated.
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