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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:00 AM
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American security contractor allegedly shoots dead his Afghan interpreter
American security contractor allegedly shoots dead his Afghan interpreter
09/30/2005 10:01:23 AM


KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) -- An American supervisor for a U.S. security firm allegedly shot to death his Afghan interpreter after a quarrel this week, Afghan officials said Friday.

Noor Ahmad, 37, was shot in the head late Tuesday at a compound of his employer, U.S. Protection and Investigations, at Tut village in Farah province's Gulistan district in western Afghanistan, the officials said.

The American reportedly worked as the local supervisor for USPI, a Houston-based company that provides security for foreign contract workers in Afghanistan, including on construction of a U.S.-funded road between the cities of Herat and Kandahar.

"An American guy shot his translator. Next morning, a helicopter came and took the foreigner to Kabul," provincial police chief Allah Udin Noorzai told The Associated Press. Noorzai had no details about who had taken him away, although other officials in the province claimed they were Americans.
(snip/...)

http://www.siouxcityjournal.com/articles/2005/09/30/new...
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TheCowsCameHome Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:02 AM
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1. Don't be so nitpicky. We're building nations and making friends.
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 11:03 AM by Lastlaughin08
Look at the big picture for once.
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:05 AM
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2. The troops are concerned about this, too. See two Stripes letters here
The first one is in today's Stars and Stripes.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:08 AM
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3. That guy must have a short fuse
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 11:15 AM by Qanisqineq
and a few screws loose. I don't mean to make light of it but there is so much insane crap that Americans are doing lately... I don't know, it just feels surreal.

Edited b/c I forgot the word "much"
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Ouabache Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:12 AM
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4. The Ugly American
syndrome. Follows empire anywhere.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:19 AM
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8. that reminds me of something I read yesterday
Maybe it was here on DU? Maybe not. I have a terrible memory lately. But anyway, it was about an American that has lived in Japan for many years and his view of the USA and Americans when he came back recently.

Boy, I'm a lot of help aren't I! If I can find it or remember it I'll add a link.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 05:24 PM
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13. that sounds really interesting; I feel like the U.S. is staging ground
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 05:31 PM by MisterP
for pod people: puppies on grills, New Orleanois damned as welfare queens who just wait around for a government helicopter, calls for black babies to all be aborted...
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 06:55 PM
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16. Was that the DUer,
Art from Ark? If so, perhaps you can use the search function to find the thread.
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:25 PM
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17. I tried that
but I found absolutely nothing that looked familiar. I could have sworn it wasn't on DU, but maybe I did read it here.
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NYC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:15 PM
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19. Maybe it wasn't here.
I have no reason to believe that Art from Ark is in the U.S., but I thought it was a possibility.
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:12 AM
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5. Sounds like the interpreter knew a little too much
The contractor get's mad and shoots his interpreter?

sorry, that's a story only a kindergartner would believe.
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Realityhack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 05:25 PM
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14. Thats posible but NOT devinate
Whilte that is certainly a posiblility there is no real reason to reach the conclusion that that was what happend. These people are paid mercenaries with zero accountability and packing serious firepower. Even domesticaly that can lead to murders and here they are held accountable (well... more than there).

There is no reason to jump into assuming that the enterprate either did or did not 'know to much'.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:17 AM
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6. Will he be covered by the U.S. military or civil law?
I think the U.S. has a standard agreement in country's it has troops, that their misconduct would be punished through the U.S. military rather than the host country's civil law. One would think this wouldn't apply in this case, but it will be interesting to find out.
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ms liberty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:17 AM
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7. Bookmarking and recommending...
This can be directly linked to what's going on in NOLA right now...we have some of those same companies at work there. Does * want NOLA to be like Bagdad? Hmmmm...
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MidwestTransplant Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:43 AM
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9. All contractors are exempt from local laws.
Conceivably he could still be charged in the US.
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 04:03 PM
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10. Well, I knew they didn't have many supervisory skills, if they were ...
working for those firms -- but really!

Of course, he'll be protected and hustled out of the country, so there will be no real repercussions for killing a human being.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 05:20 PM
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11. it's an accurate look at how right-wing Republicans see the world...
Everything in the air, on the surface, or below ground is theirs to utilize or simply destroy, with no exception allowed. Everything is here for them to control. They will force weaker people to protect them while they destroy everything in their paths.

It's very, very diseased.
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:04 AM
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22. This is it.
For those wondering why an argument with an employee would lead to his murder by the employer.

Absolutely no respect, concern or even thought for another life.
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 05:23 PM
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12. US personnel can murder with impunity
Bush has forced many nations to give immunity to American troops and different assortments of spooks for any crimes they commit.
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Pharlo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 05:31 PM
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15. Semi-off topic,
but anyone who is interested in the role of private contractors in 'war' zones, I would recommend watching the 'Frontline' episode entitled 'Private Warriors'.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/warriors/... /

Fascinating and informative.

After watching the first five minutes, I understand why there are so many 'insurgents'. Treated like that, and I'd become an insurgent too.
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shavedape Donating Member (70 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:40 PM
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18. who are these psychos!!!
wtf!
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BikeWriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:39 PM
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20. Licensed to kill!
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:35 PM
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21. That's lettin' off some steam. Darn those bad apples.
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 10:05 AM
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23. Stories like this will soon be from Florida w/its no flee gun law.
:puke:

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