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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:29 AM
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Cracks seen in GOP front on DeLay
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2... /

WASHINGTON -- The united front Republicans built to support ousted House majority leader Tom DeLay showed signs of crumbling yesterday, with conservatives threatening a leadership challenge and some moderate Republicans saying they don't think DeLay, facing criminal conspiracy charges in Texas, will ever come back to House leadership.

Members of the conservative Republican Study Committee, upset with Congress's spending, said they are prepared to challenge some of House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert's top lieutenants if the case against DeLay isn't resolved by year's end. They warned that the three-way power-sharing arrangement Hastert set up in Delay's absence can't last into the next House session, which begins in January.

''The reality of the ordeal faces is not as rosy as everyone's hopes and aspirations," said Representative Zach Wamp, Republican of Tennessee, who said he plans to seek the number three post, House majority whip, if DeLay isn't back in power. ''Everyone's rooting for Tom DeLay to quash this indictment and prevail. But the realistic view is, this is going to take some time, and therefore the conference has to go forward."

Meanwhile, some moderates who have clashed with DeLay were already speaking as though his temporary resignation from leadership is permanent. Yesterday, as DeLay vacated the majority leader's office space, Representative Christopher Shays, a Connecticut Republican, said it was ''doubtful" that the 11-term Texas Republican would ever return to leadership unless the criminal case ends quickly in his favor.

''He's not going away, but he's not the leader," said Shays, who called for DeLay to resign in April and in January pressed to reinstate the party rule that required members of leadership to step down if they're indicted. ''I don't think we're in limbo now. With all due respect, he's moving out of his office."



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thefloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:32 AM
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1. Would not surprise me
Cons smell power.....What better power to have than the Delay political maching
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:39 AM
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2. I smell a palace coup
And it's not a pretty smell.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:49 AM
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3. Yep...some don't forget the heavy handed treatment they got from bugman
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comsymp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 05:24 PM
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21. And it certainly isn't without precedent
In fact, wasn't it DeLay who tried to topple Newt when they thought he was vulnerable? Why yes, yes it was.

Moral: Don't fuck with Karma.
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asjr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:55 AM
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4. The Repubs make me think of a herd of
Tasmanian Devils--vicious to the point of devouring themselves.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:13 AM
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6. Well let's just hope they do.
What's bad and turbulent and self-immolating for them is GOOD for all the rest of us.

I like seeing republi-CONS in turmoil. Keeps 'em off their game. Divide and conquer. The LAST thing we need is to see them all get back into a united front. That's the LAST thing we need. Any splintering and divisiveness should be ENCOURAGED.
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not fooled Donating Member (553 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:49 PM
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24. With one important distinction:
Tasmanian devils have kind of gotten a bad rap. And, they fill a significant niche in their ecosystem. The 'pukes, on the other hand, neither do anything useful (except for various parisites on society such as the $$$ & defense contactors) nor get a reputation nearly as bad as they deserve.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:02 AM
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5. Every now and then they all turn on each other and start attacking.
It's their true nature.

I love it when they do that.
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ernstbass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:23 AM
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7. Pass the poopcorn - this is gonna be good!!
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 10:24 AM by ernstbass
I meant to say popcorn but poopcorn is probably appropriate w/ repugs.
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Olney Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 06:16 PM
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22. Here ya go.
:popcorn:
:hurts:

Enjoy!
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:27 AM
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8. How many pugs will choose to sink with him?
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 10:28 AM
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9. Tom DeLay's mom must've hung a pork chop around his neck ...
... so at least the dogs acted like they liked him. He carried this lesson into Congress. The Republican dogs followed him around as long as they got a sniff of pork. Well, indictments are sure starting to have their own smell, and the dogs are sniffing elsewhere.
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:08 AM
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10. I often wonder about these people
these politicians who stand by each other through all this dirt and crap and they refer to one another as friends. They are so loyal, but do they really like one another? Or are they just using each other or afraid of the power the other has? I wonder what their definition of friendship is?
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indypaul Donating Member (896 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:38 AM
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11. It'slike Harry Truman said:
If you are looking for loyalty in Washington D.C.
Buy a dog.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:49 PM
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14. you scratch my back etc.....


may they both go down in flames together.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:40 AM
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12. delay loves to sniff the elephant ass
Edited on Fri Sep-30-05 11:43 AM by dutchdemocrat
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zara Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:31 PM
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13. Et tu Roy Blount?
Like Brutus, the underlings may rationalize their attack on the king. Look what Frist did to Lott. And Delay, Gingrich. Pounce on a misstep for the good of the party. And the personal gain, well, just a coincidence?
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 04:10 PM
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15. It is the Klingon way. n/t
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 04:25 PM
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16. Nope, they're all Ferenghi.
Klingons are more honorable.

Did you ever hear of a Klingon chickenhawk?
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 04:49 PM
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19. I must agree, you have a good point. n/t
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jazzjunkysue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 09:10 PM
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26. Cardassian. Come on!
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damntexdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 04:31 PM
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17. Let them stew in those juices.
And heat up the pot whenever possible.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 04:42 PM
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18. I remember how they all applauded Speaker-elect Livingston
when Larry Flynt outed him. The next day he was gone.
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 05:14 PM
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20. Christopher Shays sure is talkin' alot lately
going after Brownie

going after Delay

talkin' about the Plame leak
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 06:46 PM
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23. almost sounds like a democrat
almost. ;)
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regnaD kciN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 02:59 AM
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25. 'Zach Wamp'...???
I mean, is that just about a perfect name for a southern Republican politician, or what?

:evilgrin:

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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 04:26 AM
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28. So many funny GOP names
Hack Swamp.

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Giant Robot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-02-05 12:45 AM
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27. I would be excited by this but
I think the proof will come when the time comes to make a stand against Delay and the current RNC. Its nice to see this in writing now, and gives me some hope that some of them still have functioning consciences, but I will withhold judgment for now. It just seems I have been excited for the Republican absolute party unity to falter so many times, and it has not yet, that I am just too tired to get my hopes up for that anymore.
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