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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:30 PM
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FCC Releases Orders for Internet Backdoor Wiretap Access
Sept 29 - Quietly last week, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) released a 59-page document outlining new rules forcing broadband internet and voice-over-IP (VoIP) phone service providers to open up their systems to federal, state and local law enforcement officials.

In releasing the rules, the FCC opened up a 30-day public comment period. The regulations, which are planned for implementation in 2007, were decided upon in the beginning of August and made public Friday without a news release or other announcement.

Opponents of the proposed rules argue that the "backdoor" requirements pose the opportunity for privacy rights violations and will be prohibitively expensive for companies and the consumers they will ultimately pass the cost along to. In addition, Internet phone companies allege that the FCC rules are designed to prop up faltering traditional telephone companies, which are losing ground in competition with the relatively versatile and inexpensive VoIP services.

more...

http://newstandardnews.net/content/index.cfm/items/2419
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phusion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:33 PM
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1. Recommending...
This is a very scary ruling. We need to oppose this as much as we can. In fact, I'd recommend the opposition effort for a DU activist assignment.

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Copperred Donating Member (554 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:42 AM
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16. When does the campaign start?

I'm in..it's time we be free...and let be free...whatever the consequences....

stop the beast!!!!!
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:36 PM
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2. Hmm. What would this mean for us? n/t
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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:25 AM
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19. It means you can't write certain things in email messages like
death to the american fascist dogs.
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Pepper32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:03 AM
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3. And so it begins....
We will now be spied on as if we are terrorist. Why do they hate our freedom?
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:08 AM
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13. them hates us for our freedoms cuz the heat is turning up on thems ...
in more ways then one!!!
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 04:04 PM
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23. Why do they hate Marikens why do they hate Marika? Thems
that do hate our freedoms.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:07 AM
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4. R&K
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:08 AM
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5. more rights stripped away. Recommended. Will make it easier to suppress
dissent - tap in and locate the people who speak too much truth.

This is horrible. MUST BE OPPOSED.
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gulfcoastliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:10 AM
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6. So it begins
What 4th amendment?
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:14 AM
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7. This is double-plus-ungood...nt
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 12:45 AM
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8. Do Your Own Encryption End-to-End
Use open-source encryption software so nobody can put in any trapdoors.

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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:02 AM
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9. Yes, But to Everyone You Call?
and that's an interesting comment on propping up local phone companies. The descendents of the Bell System have always opposed wiretaps and giving customer data to the government.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:13 AM
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10. Is there anywhere the government DOESN'T want to spy on us?
Starting to feel more and more like Orwell's 1984 all the freakin time! :scared:
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:20 AM
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11. Why do they need the right to spy so broadly upon everyone? NT
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:32 AM
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12. eef you haf nuthink to hide, you be hafink nuthink to feer, yah?
Ees only leetle bug. You vill be relaxink vell ve are putink in your brain now, okey dokey? Yah, vee like zee gut Amerikans ven zey goink along vith zee plahn, yah.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:43 AM
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14. Ya Know, with so much information out there, and the "public has the
right to know" laws, all we have to do is go on the internet to see what they are up to.Seriously, punch in anything and you can find it.I'm talking government stuff.We have a right to know about all these laws.
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Sven77 Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 07:36 AM
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15. i hear things
they got the GPS in all mobile phones now. they have carnivore/dirt monitoring on every internet connection. they can eavesdrop on you through your cars onstar system, or your cell phone or home phone when its still on the hook.
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Pierogi_Pincher Donating Member (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 08:37 AM
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17. My kinda new fancy cell phone fell apart and
I had a hardly used replacement phone from the same co. that I asked to have activated. They said NO they couldn't because it didn't have GPS FEATURE ON IT! As I understand, if you punch in 911, emergency services can locate you within ten feet. :yoiks:
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 04:10 PM
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24. that's correct all cells now have the gps-based locating capability


Actually I think it's the cell towers that have the GPS receivers and they triangulate your phones location from your signal strength, I don't think it's precise as 10 feet though.

I should look into that more sometime...
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 03:42 PM
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21. still on the hook??
wtf?? never heard of that one - that would be truly scary.
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longship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 11:12 AM
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18. Use open source software.
No back doors, *ever*.

And if there were back doors, you'd know about it.

Stop the piracy of corporate ownership of intellectual property. Support open technology and open source software.

See Electronic Freedom Foundation

See Free Software Foundation
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 02:07 PM
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20. These will be outlawed...
and I bet legislature pops up that will make them illegal... hell, they could already be *illegal* and we just don't know it yet.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 04:03 PM
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22. why do we hate our freedoms? 10bucks someone breaks into this in a week
then anyone will be able to listen in on anyone else through the 'secret' backdoor. If they want to tap someone, why don't they just put a mico-mic into the house? any number of better ways to go about it than this
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 04:23 PM
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25. Just in time for the 2008 elections.
"In releasing the rules, the FCC opened up a 30-day public comment period. The regulations, which are planned for implementation in 2007, were decided upon in the beginning of August and made public Friday without a news release or other announcement."

They already own the vote counting machines through Diebold, they own or have the genitalia of the corpwhorate owned MSM in their back pockets and now they want to control the only avenue of free speech for the American People. Have they no shame? I'll answer that Hell No!!

P.S. Do not expect the corpwhorate owned MSM to cover this in any meaningful way, this is what they have dreamed of.
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stickdog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 09:58 PM
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26. We all love Big Brother. Why don't you?
:scared:
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 05:26 AM
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27. Why do you hate America?
Edited on Sat Oct-01-05 05:27 AM by SpiralHawk
Choco-rations will probably be increased 1 mg. per citizen-consumer unit in the future, if the Permanent tax-cut for the Rich is approved.

So rejoice, and be exceedingly glad.

We have always been at war with TERRA !

Big BushCo loves you.


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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-01-05 05:36 AM
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28. Faltering traditional phone companies, that is the key phrase in this
article. My wife and I canceled our land line last year. No more service fees, we use our cell phones and nothing else. The Bell's are losing money like crazy to cell phone companies. I am pretty sure they had a lobbyist pay somebody off to try and get this pushed through.
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