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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:36 AM
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Senator (Alabama) says storms are punishment from God
Sadly, this idiot is from a small college town called Montevallo in central Alabama. The university there is an oasis of progressive thought in an otherwise rock-solid Republican county.

http://www.al.com/news/birminghamnews/index.ssf?/base/n...

THOMAS SPENCER
News staff writer

Hurricane Katrina and other storms that battered the Gulf Coast were God's judgment of sin, according to state Sen. Hank Erwin, R-Montevallo.

"New Orleans and the Mississippi Gulf Coast have always been known for gambling, sin and wickedness," Erwin wrote this week in a column he distributes to news outlets. "It is the kind of behavior that ultimately brings the judgment of God."

< snip >

"Warnings year after year by godly evangelists and preachers went unheeded. So why were we surprised when finally the hand of judgment fell?" Erwin wrote. "Sadly, innocents suffered along with the guilty. Sin always brings suffering to good people as well as the bad."

William Willimon, bishop of the North Alabama Conference of the United Methodist Church, suggested another response from Christians to the disaster: "I have no idea what sort of senator or politician Mr. Erwin is, but he's sure no theologian," Willimon said. "I'm certainly against gambling and its hold on state government in Mississippi, but I expect there is as much sin, of possibly a different order, in Montevallo as on the Gulf Coast. If God punished all of us for our sin, who could stand?
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:39 AM
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1. crawl back under your rock
why even report this crap in the news

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Auntie Bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:59 PM
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77. I thank Mom for reporting this stuff. The world needs to KNOW how
sick these Fundie's really are. It's important for people to realize just how harmful it is to mix politics and religion.
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dretceterini Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:40 AM
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2. How do
fundamentalist wacckos like this actually get eleceted?
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phatkatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:16 PM
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23. Ever lived in Alabama?
I've lived here for the last 28 years.

I saw a "Roy Moore for President" bumper sticker on a beat-up pickup truck the other day.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:40 AM
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3. What a dip. I get so annoyed with this sort of stupidity.

Senator, a hurricane is a result of natural forces and it would've happened even if nobody lived in LA or MS.

If God had a hit list of "Cities to be Destroyed Because of Their Wickedness," don't you think Las Vegas would be at the top of the list?

Or would Washington, DC?
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:45 AM
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8. Sen. Erwin better watch his tongue
Or God might send a tornado to take out the homes of those who pass judgment on others.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 09:48 PM
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68. Speaking of tornadoes,
they have done quite a bit of damage to churches in his state

http://www.tornadoproject.com/past/pastts98.htm

How does the good senator explain THAT?
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 07:27 AM
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90. There ya Go! They do not THINK in these parts!
I live right in the heart of Dixie. It bothers me to no end.
Bama
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nashville_brook Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:44 AM
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110. there's a culture of Authority and distrust of independent thinking
Edited on Thu Sep-29-05 11:45 AM by nashville_brook
but it's been cultivated. makes good "slaves." this isn't so much an appeal to ignorance as it is a mechanism of control.

edit: "slaves" in the philosophic sense.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:30 PM
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54. Wouldn't the Chicken Ranch be top of the list?
I guess it's hard to aim a hurricane at a spot in a desert. Bummer....
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:41 PM
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62. No kidding...that was the first thing that popped into my mind EOM
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:40 AM
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4. how quaint. now sit down and let the adults take care of things, senator.
we don't need MORE madness. we need less.
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ozymandius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:43 AM
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5. Brother Pat is still waiting for that hurricane to hit Amsterdam.
But God apparently thinks sin there is okey dokey. :eyes:
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:06 AM
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104. And they don't have levee issues there, either nt
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mainer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:43 AM
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6. so how come God only punishes the south?
Why is God so mad at Bush country? What about blue state New England, this den of iniquity?

Could it be that God is mad at ... Bush voters?
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:53 AM
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14. These idiots will say, "Wait until the winter"
I wouldn't put it past them if they allege blizzards and ice storms are punishment from God for sin.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:58 PM
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36. And why does the South (which is predominantly "Red") allow this "sin"?
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 12:58 PM by Roland99
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Polethebear Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:46 PM
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50. Good One.........
I'm sorry,ya'll

This is still very prevalant here but we are not all way. A lot but......not all.


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Charles19 Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:51 PM
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52. Better watch out red states!!!!
paybacks a bitch
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proReality Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:44 AM
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7. He's wrong...
Those storms are created and controlled by aliens, who are trying to show this administration for what it really is.

<wink wink>
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jahyarain Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:45 AM
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9. i never thought i'd say this but
i agree witht the christian (not Erwin, but Willimon), "If God punished all of us for our sin, who could stand?". truer words have never been spoken. oh, and there is no such thing as a "godly evangelist". they simply don't exist.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:46 AM
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10. Wow, this sounds eerily out of the Phelps camp!
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Brooklyn Michael Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:49 AM
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11. Actually, he might be right....
After all, would it be that surprising if the vengeful God of the Bible took a look at what BushCo has done to his/her earth, the perversions of faith perpetrated in his/her name, and every other bit of underhanded sleaze, lies and dis(ass)embling and thought "Oh, I'm gonna smite these @#$%^&'s but GOOD!"
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:44 PM
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63. I think it's the French reaping revenge over the freedom fries thing
Or maybe it's the original people we f'd over (the native Americans)

I assume you all have seen poltergeist?

(kidding/ sort of)
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Patchuli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:55 PM
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76. Tecumseh's Curse
of the White Man Invader...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tecumseh\'s_curse

The chief who presented Cindy Sheehan with the warrior's shawl, (Dennis Banks) invoked Tecumseh when he spoke at Camp Casey.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:49 AM
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12. Who in the living fuck votes these clowns in office?
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:57 AM
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15. I don't live in his district
But I do a lot of work there. People there are good, honest, church-going people who come out to volunteer on the weekends to build Habitat houses, etc. They have also taken in many Katrina evacuees. They are the kind of people you would want as your neighbors.

They are also well educated and have money, which means that while they are conservative, they have a low tolerance for politicians who make ignorant remarks like this. They don't like being made laughing stocks (this story was Page 1 in the Birmingham News) by assholes like Erwin. Erwin would be well advised to keep his mouth shut or he may have a primary opponent next year.
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jahyarain Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:57 AM
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16. my dad is from Alabama
i can tell you from first-hand experience (and to all my brothers and sisters in ALA, i Love you, but) i've not met anyone from the state that was anything above completely fucked in the head. confederate flags and bibles. and trailers of course.
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:02 PM
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17. We love you, too
But that's just an ignorant remark.
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jahyarain Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:29 PM
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27. very true
i've not met EVERYONE in the state so that was judging all by the experiences i've had with a few. sorry. plus, i live in TN so i really can't say much. again, sorry. that was something a bigot would say.
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 07:07 AM
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89. Thank you. My Democratic Family thanks you , all of my
Democratic friends and every other person in Alabama who does not vote for this scum.
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Polethebear Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:47 PM
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51. Hi I'm from Boaz
nice to meet you...

I am not the way you describe,trust me!!!


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jahyarain Donating Member (254 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:08 PM
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111. Hi! there's a new confederate flag going up everyday in my sad little town
so by the rationale of my original post, that would make me just like them. i've been having a small redneck problem lately and posted before thinking it through (not the first time, probably not the last). my dad's bunch are from Sugar and Sand Mountains if that tells you anything. again, sorry to any and all i offended. Peace
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Polethebear Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 04:07 PM
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115. No Worries......
Just wantted to let you know that not everybody is like that.
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BamaBecky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 07:30 AM
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91. Come on Down...I'll introduce you to some!
Hey I'm serious as a heart attack!
Bama
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:52 AM
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13. He's half right
The hurricanes are a punishment from God, but not for the reasons he alleges. They're really punishment for greed and social injustices. Too bad poor people have to suffer and die for such greed; they'll get their reward in Heaven, God willing.
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 06:44 PM
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49. Actually, I think they're punishment for messing with the environment.
Whether or not there is a god or mother nature, we're only getting what's coming to us.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:24 PM
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114. I think Bush is being punished ultimately...
Offshore oil rigs being damaged and dislodged, 25% of American oil refining capacity being targeted and at risk, major oil pipelines through New Orleans being disrupted, the National Guard unable to respond because they are fighting for our offshore oil interests.... how much more poetic justice does he need before he sees the light?
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:03 PM
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18. So in order to punish drinkers and gamblers god drowned old people
destroyed all of New Orleans (except the French Quarter where the drinking, gambling, and whoring was concentrated in the city) and trashed Trent Lott's house? Frankly I like to believe that the supreme being has if nothing else, a better sense of aim.

And how then do you explain the tornados that smashed their way through Alabama in the wake of rita?

God save us from these sick punishment freaks.
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ernstbass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:08 PM
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19. Funny that the French Quarter was spared
How does he explain that the home of the strip joints was left intact?
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:13 PM
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21. God loves the stripper, the crossroaders, the rounders and the
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 12:14 PM by 0007
peek freaks. That's the only way I can explain it! :shrug:
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:22 PM
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26. Well, Jesus did say that the "tax collectors and prostitutes. . .
would enter the Kingdom of G*d before..." the rest.

Matthew 21:31 (American Standard Bible)


http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%202...

O8)
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ShockediSay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:57 PM
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35. Gospel of Salvation was for the sinners; not the self righteous.
This jerkwater Sen Erwin's got his Bible all wrong.

Jesus also said: "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not,
and ye shall not be condemned...." Luke 6:37 kjv
> meaning those who pass judgment on others are going to be judged/condemned to hell. Well, my bet is there will be a lot of politicians there.

Meanwhile, the Bible also said the end time will be filled with false prophets, false gospels, and minions of Satan.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:49 PM
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64. Isn't it though?
Odd that the French quarter has stood for over two hundred years in all it's glory, isn't it?

I guess God loves a good time.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:11 PM
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20. Is Senator Hank Erwin really holier than us? Time will tell.
Senate votes to maintain AIDS medication for 200

Associated Press - April 13, 2005
Phillip Rawls, Associated Press Writer

The Alabama Senate approved funding Wednesday that is necessary to keep 200 low-income people from losing their AIDS medication, but a senator said the medicine should come with a warning that the recipients should pursue a more godly lifestyle.
"We need to send a message we cannot continue to fund a disease that comes as a result of a lifestyle choice. We need to appeal to change the lifestyle, to embrace a lifestyle that is godly and holy," Sen. Hank Erwin, R-Montevallo, told the Senate.
(snip/...)
http://www.aegis.com/news/ap/2005/AP050421.html

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:14 PM
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22. WHAT A FREAKY ASS CLOWN
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Bob3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:54 PM
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33. As a rule of thumb anybody this holier than thou
has got to be very very dirty - and in this case I'd suspect something on the level of trips to Asia to molest small children. Honestly I'm willing to bet money that this guy has got something hidden in his closet that would make your jaw drop. It's the way with these folks they project their own self loathing and judgment onto the outside world.

Spiritual people - such as Mother Theresa or the Dalia Lama don't waste their time on this kind of shit. They have better things to do with their time than to try and make miserable people feel worse.
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 05:48 AM
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85. It's gotta be the hair. Nice do.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:17 PM
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24. Hey, yoohoo...dumbass
the French Quarter was NOT flooded.



Besides, the White House is still standing as well as congress...where's a good lightening strike when U need it?
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Dyedinthewoolliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:18 PM
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25. What sins did the starving
children in the Sudan commit? His comments are absurd and when people point that out, some claim we are persecuting Christians! Sheesh!!!!
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DaveColorado Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:31 PM
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28. My uncle works there for a nasa contractor
He says instead of MLK day, they celebrate Jefferson Davis Day.

The money is good, but both he and his wife hate the ass backwards climate there.

I know there are good people there too though.

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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:01 PM
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38. MLK Day is indeed celebrated here
And state employees get Jefferson Davis' birthday off, but as far as I know nobody else does.
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:34 PM
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29. He May Have a Point, But He's Looking at the Wrong "Sins"
The "sinful" parts of NOLA were pretty much left unscathed.

The casinos in MS are to be rebuilt on dry land, because the state is dependent on the revenue they deliver. Punishment? I think not.

The oil rigs in the Gulf and many of the associated port facilities have been severely damaged, and those who use too much of the black gold are certainly feeling like they're being punished about now. A convincing argument is being made that these storms may in fact be "punishment" for our excessive use of energy which causes global warming. It is well-established that it is the overly-warm Gulf that has been turning these storms into the monsters they became.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:38 PM
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31. How about the sin of invading another country and killing its innocent
civilians? God is making us spend money on rebuilding the southern US so we won't have money to kill people in Iraq. Okay, it's astretch, but why not argue it that way?
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coda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:37 PM
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30. A CAT 5 destroying Las Vegas would be a better indicator, Hank.


"New Orleans and the Mississippi Gulf Coast have always been known for gambling, sin and wickedness."

No, what they've always been known for, is being on the receiving end of massive hurricanes.
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FVZA_Colonel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:42 PM
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32. And a man like this became an elected politician?
Honestly, it sounds like the sort of bullshit you'd hear out of the Good Reverend Fred Phelps.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 12:55 PM
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34. Has the good Senator considered this might be punishment from a just
God for governmental iniquities rather than individual iniquities?
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Bridget Burke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:00 PM
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37. A minister wrote to the Houston Chronicle
As a Christian and a clergyman, I was deeply distressed by the words reported by the Chronicle that were said by preachers at Second Baptist Church and Windsor Village United Methodist Church in the wake of Hurricane Rita .

Preachers at those churches spoke of how "the hurricane was supposed to hit Houston, but it turned toward casinos" and how the gambling industries were condemned because, "I don't know, but I think it may be cleansing time."

God does not send hurricanes to "cleanse" Houston or New Orleans or Biloxi or any place. Jesus cleanses our sins in the waters of baptism, thus there is no need for cleansing by storm surge, torrential rain, tsunami or tornado.

To tell people that God punishes one area of the country with natural disasters while sparing another based on a comparison of sins is contrary to the good news of the forgiveness of sins, once and for all, proclaimed by the Christian faith.

THE REV. JEFF W. FISHER Houston


www.chron.com/cs/CDA/ssistory.mpl/editorial/3372611

Who's the real Christian?



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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:05 PM
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39. So why doesn't god attack Las Vegas?
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 01:05 PM by fasttense
What a strange god to punish the innocent as well as the wicked. Can't he tell the difference?
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:06 PM
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40. Erin is punishment by god. nt
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fleabert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:07 PM
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41. that is a fine shattered glass house he has there! nt
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blackhorse Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 01:17 PM
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42. DU Poster dissents; says Alabama senator is punishment from God
What a FJO ...
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 03:09 PM
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43. I guess that explains why Las Vegas gets hit so much, wait LV doesn't
Does God not know about Las Vegas? Maybe James Dodson should tell him.
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:08 PM
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44. Ah, Mr. Erwin, here's another way of looking at it.
How about God's payback for slaughtering innocent Iraqis? Hmm?
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Lochloosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:17 PM
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45. And ya'll complain about my Florida
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Vogon_Glory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:24 PM
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46. Maybe It Actually IS For The Sins of Sodom
"Behold, this was the guilt of your sister Sodom, she and her daughters had pride, surfeit of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty and did abominable things before Me; therefore I removed them" Ezikiel ch 16, vs. 49-50.

I note that so much of the territory devastated by Katrina and Rita are strongholds for ex-Dixiecrat Republican reactionaries. Maybe the right wingie-dingie Fundamentalist G*d is punishing them--but not for the sins of the flesh.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:30 PM
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47. Gambling is a tax on being ignorant
And the mid-west drought in the twenties was God's wrath at people for being poor. The worst winter in Europe during the 20th century was God's wrath at American's for fighting Nazi's. Tornado alley is God's wrath at people who live in.... tornado alley. The Andrea Gail off Mass. was God's wrath at fishermen.

Re: gambling (be it at Vegas or simply getting a lotto ticket), I stand with my grand father on this one: "Gambling is a tax on being ignorant"
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 05:45 PM
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48. Seems like GWAD is punishing Republican states
Florida, texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, etc.

This Congressman should repent of his GOP sins or else he will burn in Hell.

As you can see above, two can play the stupid religion game.
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:38 AM
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108. DEMOCRATIC areas of red states
I wouldn't go there if I were you.
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springhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:17 PM
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53. Sadly, many people think like this........
My brother-in-law thinks aids is part of Gods plan.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:31 PM
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55. When's He going to take out Washington?
Talk about sin and wickedness! It's a hotbed of it.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:37 PM
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56. I swear I heard "Dueling Banjos" start playing in the background.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:41 PM
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57. He needs to go rapture himself
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DuaneBidoux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:42 PM
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58. Yea' for putting an unelected phony in office.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 07:57 PM
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Strawman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:38 PM
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60. I hope bozos like this guy keep on talking
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 08:38 PM by Strawman
In times like these, the importance of having sane, rational people in charge becomes very clear. The "religious" right is a fading star. The circus tent is coming down. Show's over. Government is legitimate and necessary and governing is a serious adult task. We can't afford to indulge this foolishness any longer. Time for all these clowns to pile back into their little car and exit the center ring.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:40 PM
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61. Anyone want to give me a crash course in voodoo?
Because this ASSHOLE needs to go down-- SOON!
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iamjoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 10:14 PM
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69. Nooo...Katrina Was Punishment From Damballa
Edited on Wed Sep-28-05 10:14 PM by iamjoy
because the people of NOLA turned away from Voodoo.
The French Quarter was largely spared because they still have some remnants of it there.

Quick, get me a gator head, some beads and incense. How can I make a powerful gris gris to ward off the hurricanes?

:hide:
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:30 AM
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102. Can you just aim one at Crawford? (yeah yeah I know it's inland lol) eom
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Polethebear Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 11:28 PM
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75. Don't talk like that....
That stuff can come back at YOU ten fold. :)
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Tight_rope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 08:56 PM
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65. Ignorance is a diesease...and this guy has a bad case of it!...n/t
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MelissaB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 09:26 PM
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66. How many times in one week do I have to be embarassed? 1st Jeff Sessions
now this? :banghead: I don't even know who this guy is, but I'm sick of this shit. :grr:
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 09:41 PM
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67. Based on the theory that Sodom was destroyed by a hurricane? eom
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4nic8em Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 10:30 PM
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70. "How interesting..."
I have recently read a particular quote from Iraq's terrorist leader almost word for word regarding Hurricanes being God's punishment...never realized until just now how like-minded these two religious leaders think.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 10:38 PM
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71. Man, this kind of wacko isn't native to Alabama....
we have a lot of them their critters up north on O Hi O
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 10:42 PM
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72. I guess the repuglicans are living right!!!
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 10:48 PM
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73. Maybe God DID send Katrina to punish New Orleans
Maybe God had finally had enough of watching the Saints lose.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-28-05 10:54 PM
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74. And The Easter Bunny...
has ears.
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Shallah Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:37 AM
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78. GOP's God can't shoot straight. Also when was Nevada leveled?
If not it is long over due for smiting with it's legal prostitution and gambling. BTW I am fuzzy on the details but didn't the Red Sox win their first world series in 80+ years AFTER gay marriage was legalized there? Any helfire and brimstone hit Mass. that I haven't noticed in the news?
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 12:39 AM
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79. If that's true, then God is a Terrorist!!
These so-called sins they are asserting are indiscriminately hurting and killing many who have nothing to do with these so-called acts against their god. The outcome is no different than any terrorist attack.

These people who make this argument are deficient in both brain and heart. The true curse of God upon our people is that we have to hear this kind of crap coming out in plain English and see with our own eyes that otherwise "ordinary" people actually believe it.

Truth is, at least as far as I can see it, is that when a people live out of balance with nature, bad stuff is going to happen as a result. No condemnation, just cause and effect. Tragedy still. But where did we really go wrong and what can we do about it to not let it happen again?
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 01:04 AM
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80. How does he know it wasn't Satan?
God wouldn't punish the children, would he? Nope! Must be Satan!
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mom cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 04:29 AM
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81. And a lot of "good Christian folks" got washed away too. Maybe we
should look at global warming and how it fuels more intense storms. I don't believe that it is "mother nature's revenge"...just the logical consequences of collective stupidity and arrogant contempt for natural laws. It is like trying to defy gravity. It only works for so long. We humans have created this disaster and blaming it on a three letter word or waiting for that three letter word to fix everything are both the height of stupidity and reflect the magical thinking found in cases of arrested development. Such fantasy is cute in children but quite dangerous in adults.
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 01:49 AM
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116. Unfortunately, increasing levels of carbon monoxide only make it worse n/t
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 04:53 AM
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82. "storms are punishment from God ? " So, I guess what's going on
with Tom de Lay must be as well hmmmm? GAWD DONT LIKE UGLY !
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Oakland Donating Member (66 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 05:26 AM
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83. Maybe
he is right, but the sin is really being a Bush supporter. Note the irony. It helps support both evolution (gulf states will sink back into the sea from whence they came) and intelligent design (god doesn't like Republicans either).
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 05:44 AM
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84. Whatever happened to 'judge not, lest ye yourself be judged?" Oh, wait,
fundies aren't into actual quotes attributed to Jesus. I forgot. What was I thinking.
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ladylibertee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 06:25 AM
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86. rock-solid Republican county????/ Well, that explains it.Gawd
don't like ugly.The Republicans need to repent for acting like they are christians.They preach against abortion at the same time, sending young men and women to die in Iraq.They want to stop "fornication" and porn, yet do nothing to stop all the priests from raping innocent boys.Gawd don't like UGLY!
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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 06:46 AM
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87. He who is without sin
throw the first stone.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 06:50 AM
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88. yes - old people and babies must suffer because people gamble
sick f***
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 07:39 AM
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92. Well, He must be punishing all those Fundie Christians then, because
I'll bet most of those affected were Fundie Christian. Also, why did the French Quarter survive?
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:06 AM
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94. Oh come on now!
A little factoid like that shouldn't get in anyone's way. Goodness knows if you're going to be a smug self-righteous santimonious ass you can't let stuff like that enter what little brain matter you possess.

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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:14 AM
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95. Actually, I suspect there is also an anti-Catholic element at work
New Orleans is predominantly Catholic, a fact that has never set well with fundamentalist Christians in the South. So watching the city drown is, for them, sort of like watching the house of your neighbor -- the one who was always throwing wild parties and leaving trash everywhere -- burn down.
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:04 AM
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93. If that kind of behavior brings the judgment of God....
Most of the Republicans in office would have been swept out to sea by now.

What a small-minded idiot.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:15 AM
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96. get fucking real
and get out of office.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:17 AM
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97. So much stupidity in this world
"Hurricane Katrina and other storms that battered the Gulf Coast were God's judgment of sin, according to state Sen. Hank Erwin, R-Montevallo."

Well on the bright side, his God completely forgot about Las Vegas...and DC for that matter.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:32 AM
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98. Earth to fundies, earth to fundies........Breaking news.....
This is the act of a hurricane (exacerbated with global warming effecting the gulf water temperatures)

DEAL WITH IT.
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SillyGoose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:40 AM
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99. I saw this loon on Scarborough last night.
Scarborough actually did a pretty good job showcasing Erwin's insanity. When Scarborough questioned him about why God would cause innocent babies to suffer for the behavior of all these sinners, this nut said sin affects other people, too. Scarborough also mentioned that the French Quarter didn't get destroyed and what did he think of that - he said something about that's a message to do the right thing in the future. He's certifiable.

:crazy:
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 08:47 AM
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100. Yep, better make sure your neighbors aren't fornicating
Or you could end up as collateral damage from God's wrath.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 09:29 AM
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101. KICK
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dback Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:03 AM
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103. Yes. The Texas storm was a judgement on Tom DeLay.
If we're going to play this game...
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lastliberalintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:41 AM
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109. Well, since Sugarland was spared
and Dem Jefferson County was hit hard, I doubt we want to play that game. This man is just an idiot, simple as that.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:23 AM
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105. I agree! Sadly many innocents got caught when he punished the
oilmen and Trent Lott
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 10:58 AM
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106. Got to say he's right. The chemical pollution is the wage
of the corporations sins. We are fouling our world at such a great rate that we are bound to kill ourselves and every other living thing on the planet. And if death is the wages of sin, we as a species are going to die.
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Stand and Fight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 11:32 AM
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107. Bookmarking this for once I get home. n/t
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whosinpower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 02:57 PM
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112. MY GOD IS STRONGER THAN YOUR GOD
Maybe ALLAH sent the hurricanes in retribution for the Iraq War?????????????????????????????? And conveniently targeted them directly to where domestic oil and gas is concentrated the most....

Since we are so quick to get God into the mix............
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Sep-29-05 03:15 PM
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113. If this were true...
why was the French Quarter (the epicenter of all the sin and wickedness)barely touched?
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 06:12 PM
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117. Yawn. Yet another Republican blasphemer. eom
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antiblazer Donating Member (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Sep-30-05 06:35 PM
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118. By that logic, then Rita is punishing RED areas
Rita is God's punishment to Texas for voting Bush in 2004.

Look, all red areas were affected by Rita.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pages/results/states/T...
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