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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:23 PM
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WP: Smaller but Spirited Crowd Protests Antiwar March
More Than 200 Say They Represent Majority

On a day when they knew they would be outnumbered and out-shouted, more than 200 supporters of the Iraq war nonetheless gathered yesterday at the U.S. Navy Memorial to get out their message.

They were military families and members of such organizations as Move America Forward and RightMarch.com and Protest Warrior, and they were determined to be heard.

The crowd cheered when William Greene, president of RightMarch.com, called the antiwar protesters "the Sheehanistas." They cheered again when he said: "Our voices will not be silenced. We are the majority."

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/20...
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Lindacooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:25 PM
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1. OMG, is that ever funny! "More than 200 say they represent majority"!!
Yeah, right, keep on dreaming.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:36 PM
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3. Right 200 vs 600,000 who knows how many would have shown
up it the MEtro had been working? We only showed up by more than 3000%
more.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:22 AM
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25. Let's extrapolate ...
The TV National News Media says much fewer anti-war protesters. Let's take the *supposed* leftist network known by the freepers as the Clinton News Network, CNN: CNN Headline news reported over 300,000 anti-war protesters, so using their FU logic, that means that we need to half the pro-war morans to 100 people.

The national USA Cable outlets splits the true number in half for the anti-war protest numbers, while it tends to double (or quadruple) our Dear Leader's "foaming at the mouth" koolaid drinking pro-war moran folk.

Therefore, reality would fall out much like this:

600,000 Anti-War Protesters

100 Pro-War Bat Shit Crazy Morans

May God Bless Reality ... those types of "in your face" undeniable truths that even the media propaganda outlets can't spin.

There's a REASON why there was no video to go along with this pathetic group of mean spirited people - the truth about their numbers and their sick-minded attitudes would be too TRUE to Realty. Such video could not be spun into a plus for the Executive Branch and the large corporations (G.E. etc.) that OWN the cable news networks.

:hi: :hippie:
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all.of.me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:41 PM
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6. that hit my funny bone, too! bwahahahahahahaha
200!!! :rofl: they must have looked pretty stupid.
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No DUplicitous DUpe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:35 PM
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2. "Smaller"...Like 500 to 1000 times smaller.

"More Than 200 Say They Represent Majority"

I say "back to 1st grade math for you".

200 = little number
100,000 = big number

200 < 100,000

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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:37 PM
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5. Alternatively, 200 < < 100,000 n/t
Edited on Sat Sep-24-05 11:37 PM by daleo
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zoeb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:37 PM
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4. Sheehans is estimated at 10000
anti-groups suck!!! :tinfoilhat:
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:43 PM
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7. The Freepers be representin'...
...peace out.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:55 PM
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8. Sounds like "fuzzy math," as their fearless leader says.
HAHAHAHA
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-24-05 11:57 PM
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9. We are the majority
:rofl:
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:02 AM
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10. WHAT! NO PICTURES! Dammit, We Need Pictures!
I want to see what 200 Pro-War Fools look like!
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:30 AM
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11. "It really irks me when I hear people describe us as pro-war,"
she said, "just because the other side is antiwar. I am not pro-war. I don't think the president is pro-war. I don't think any of the soldiers fighting are pro-war. They have a mission, and they are going to do it."

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News flash, psycho... The mission that the US Military and Bushie are on is a WAR AGAINST IRAQ. So if you support the mission, you support the war.

Fucking idiots.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:38 AM
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13. I've never seen bush so happy as when he proclaimed
A'm a WAR president!

Perhaps these people don't really know what they stand for, or whom they're following. It makes one wonder why they're minds are so stubbornly made up. But then, if lemmings had brains...
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:39 AM
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15. Exactly. They're lemmings. That's ALL they are. Blindly following
directly over the cliff to their own deaths.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:00 AM
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30. I just feel bad (and frankly, STUNNED, to read about that woman
from Indiana - who has, what? Two sons in the military now and a third who's planning to enlist? Man - how many coffins is she willing to welcome back home when it's over? JEEZ!!!!!!!!!!! Those are her precious babies - and she's OKAY with seeing them feed themselves into that meat-grinder over there?

I will NEVER understand this. EVER. As a mother, or as an American. I am NOT willing to part with my son for the purposes of a war - EVER. Nor do I think she should be put in that position, either. That she's willing to do so - GAK!!!
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:13 AM
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34. Her idea fits in nicely....
... with the other chickenhawks who are perfectly willing to sacrifice lives for a war.... as long as it's not their own. Losing a son isn't like dieing yourself.

Her subconscious motivations must look like..."I can show how brave I am by suffering the loss of a son. He'll be dead - which is bad - but I can be the suffering mom of a dead hero - which increases my status."

Some fairly twisted shit.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:37 AM
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37. Me neither. Never.
I would say in the post-World War II era, there have been precious few incidences where the U.S. military was deployed for anything other than protecting and furthering U.S. corporate interests. I'm not saying there haven't been a few justified responses. But the overwhelming majority of military actions have been pure evil -- Vietnam, Iraq, coups, etc.
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sando Donating Member (117 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:03 AM
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39. If she loses one or all three
She will find herself being comforted by Cindy Sheehan and that is the HUGE difference between those who abhor war and those who blindly follow a feckless leader into what has come to be the ruin of our country.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:49 AM
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21. No real "war president' would ever call himself such
Lincoln, TR, FDR, Truman -- none of them went around strutting like a peacock and announcing themselves as a "war president". They let their actions do all the talking. Bush has no competent action to be proud of, so he just talks.
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wellstone_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:06 AM
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31. Or Washington
You know, a man who *completed* his time in the Army both before the Revolution and during it and who offered his sword to Congress. He didn't prance like a peacock but got down to the serious business of helping to form a *civilian* government. He didn't go looking for wars to prop himself up.

Bush is a little man. A very *little* man.
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woldnewton Donating Member (402 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:43 AM
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19. The fact that they are denying (albeit, pathetically) that they are...
indeed, pro-war, is in and of itself, good news.

These wingnut zealots are increasingly on the defensive.
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:35 AM
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12. These people are way too progressive.
True conservatives are in favor of bringing back the Spanish Inquisition. Perhaps burning witches would be as modern thinking as some would tempt. Oh how we long for the days of Vlad the Impaler. Now there was a man of action.

I wonder what these people do for a living.
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buff2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:38 AM
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14. That article sucks
The whole damn article was about those right wing America hating warmongering freaks. I find it very disgusting that 200 trouble making idiots gets the whole column while a 100,000 or more is treated like they are the ones in the minority. God,I hate those right wing bastards more and more everyday. :grr:
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EndElectoral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:40 AM
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16. If you watched the media, they say it was equal....
This is the BS of this. The message never gets out to the mainstream, except a BS message of equal coverage means equal numbers.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 12:52 AM
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17. Do Bush supporters sound like Daleks to anyone else?
You must obey! I obey! Exterminate! We will grow stronger! We are invincible! We sound really stupid saying this all the time!
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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:20 AM
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18. What a bullshit article. That crowd was frat boys looking to
cause trouble. It looked to me like the minute somebody became pissed off enough to beat one of the bastard's brains in, they would have run to the cops to try and start some kind of police action.
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:45 AM
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20. Half of the pro-war demonstrators are most likely paid
GOP Rent-a-Rioters.
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ngGale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 03:10 AM
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22. LOL...
git out of town with your denial...and I don't mean the river. :dilemma:
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BayCityProgressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:06 AM
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23. DONT BUY THIS BULLSHIT
I was htere and saw them. I swear to you I saw 4 of them.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:35 AM
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27. LOL - So true!
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 08:36 AM by ElectroPrincess
Hey, I believe you. I went to the last protest where there were just a few bored "frat boy" types taunting us as we walked by. I told a fellow protester, although there's only, I believe 50-60 thousand today, NEXT TIME our numbers will grow. I didn't make this one but I commend you for going and representing the TRUE MAJORITY.

Too funny - how the media tries to make these people "look sane" much less representative of the Average hard working American. :wtf:

Best to you and all who made it to the D.C. Anti-War Protest! :yourock:
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:15 AM
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24. Pravda on the Potomac
What more needs to be said?

I'd subscribe to the Moonie Times before letting this bunch grace my doorstep.
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nolabels Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:32 AM
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26. Yea but the real people they are getting on about are not there
They are part of the ownership society and hold the keys that make the story be told the way they want to hear it.

Who Owns What
http://www.cjr.org/tools/owners/
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:49 AM
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28. They don't want to be associated with "The Stench".
Edited on Sun Sep-25-05 08:50 AM by tinfoilinfor2005
That is why they don't want to see pictures of blown up mangled bodies in Iraq. That is why they don't want to hear of old people and babies dying in New Orleans. And that is why they don't want to be associated with the people who want to reveal where the REAL STENCH in this country is coming from.
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 08:51 AM
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29. "smaller" ? No shit. That faith-based math is something else.
:rofl:
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:41 AM
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38. Like turning water into wine or in their case whine? It's like when Jesus
took a few loaves of bread and a few fish and fed the multitudes. It's a
miracle that they are the majority. Hallelujah!!!!!
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oneighty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:15 AM
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32. U.S.Navy Memorial
I have nine years invested in the Navy. I am a supporter and financial contributer to the Memorial. My picture and Navy Bio are in the archives.

The Officers of the Memorial judging by the Memorial news letters are 'War Supporters'. It is sad.

I do hope they did not have a hand in organizing this event.

180
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kitkatrose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 09:52 AM
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33. 200?
Ha!! :rofl: :rofl: I saw about 5 or so freep types and maybe 10 religious nuts. They must have been protesting mighty far from the march route. There was only 2 groups, one at the beginning and one towards the end. Pathetic for people who believe they are the majority. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:33 AM
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35. More Than 200 Say They Represent Majority?
Majority of what, morans? These people better put down the Kool-Aid.
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HoosierClarkie Donating Member (504 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 10:34 AM
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36. Local paper
says that we had tens of thousands and then says that they hope to have ten thousand. This is an example of how the media uses words to manipulate. :mad:
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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 11:06 AM
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40. And once again they resort to name-calling.
Why label those against the war on Iraq as Sheehanistas? We have been protesting this war long before Cindy Sheehan became a familiar face and name.

And that woman yammering about not being pro-war, does she now understand how much those on the left despise it when we are called pro-abortion? Shoe gets mighty tight when it's on the other foot, doesn't it?

It would be nice if the media would report how radical Protest Warrior actually is. In fact, it's nothing more than a right-wing gang of belligerent testosterone-overdosed thugs, judging from many of their posts.
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Vincardog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 01:36 PM
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41. Right on. Protest Warriors came out to our protest of Halliburton
We had 75 - 100 people. The Right Wing Radio Nuts preached against us all week and 10 or 20 of the Protest Warriors showed up. They got their ugly signs and tried to infiltrate us. They tried to push our died into traffic and start fights.

The local police department saw what was happening and made them move over to the other side of the block. They are a bunch of weak minded sheeple.
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jmatthan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-25-05 02:38 PM
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42. Let us grant them that their crowd was
5000.

Then on the same scale the Anti-War protest was 1.5 million

Take a look at this page:

http://jmpolitics.blogspot.com
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