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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:00 AM
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Blackwell jump-starts his 2006 gubernatorial race
Sunday, September 18, 2005
Blackwell jump-starts his 2006 gubernatorial race
Inside Columbus

By Jon Craig
Enquirer staff writer


COLUMBUS - If you think it's early to be getting tape-recorded calls at home for the 2006 governor's race, you are not alone.

Ohio residents reported telephone calls last week recorded by Secretary of State Ken Blackwell in which the Cincinnati Republican asks several hot-button questions as a fund-raising vehicle.

"Did you vote to support marriage in the last election?" Blackwell asks of the amendment that banned same-sex marriages.

"Does it upset you that out-of-state liberals like California Sen. Barbara Boxer are still questioning the results of your vote?" Ohio's chief elections officer asks about the close November 2004 election.
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http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050918/NEWS01/509180350/1056

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Candidate's candor for coffers
By the Columbus Bureau

Secretary of State J. Kenneth Blackwell has been telling people Jerry Springer likely will be the Democratic candidate for governor next year. After providing that information, Blackwell asks for a contribution to help defeat Springer.

Blackwell, by the way, is running for the Republican nomination for governor.The Springer talk and money request come in a pre-recorded telephone survey with Blackwell himself doing the talking.

Longtime Democratic operative Dale Butland was surprised to get one of the Blackwell calls.

On the call to Butland, Blackwell didn't say Springer likely would be the Democratic candidate but asked if Butland agreed with the Ohio Democratic Party "in making trash talk-show host Jerry Springer the Democrat of the year?"

Butland, a Springer spokesman, answered that he did.Butland also said Springer, who now hosts a liberal talk-radio show, is "leaning against" running for governor. Butland said that he was surprised that the "chief elections officer in the state would be making push poll telephone calls."
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:23 AM
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1. Hey, he didn't steal Ohio for Bush for nothing.
Who's financing this push poll?
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 03:29 AM
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2. I can't tell. The articles are really short, but it may be Blackwell.
From the second article:
Gene Pierce, Blackwell's campaign spokesman, acknowledged that the calls are "more of a fundraising effort than a public opinion poll," but Pierce defended talking up the likelihood of a Springer candidacy.
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:08 AM
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12. My guess is the channeling down
from Coingate funds.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 04:28 AM
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3. bottom line, does this jack ass have a chance?
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converted_democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:00 AM
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4. Nope.......
Bottom line, race is still a MAJOR issue in Ohio, and the current Gov.(R) is pulling in an approval rating of like 15%-19%. No way will it happen.
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BSDRebel Donating Member (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:35 AM
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14. Not on his life,
he's black and a Republican. That will lose him a lot of the black vote (black people don't look kindly on people they think are in league with those they think are oppressing them), and the white Republican vote will be fragmented between those that believe in the Republican ideal (and who may vote for him, regardless of race) and the white vote that is closet racist and can't have the moral courage to vote for a non-white.

Colin Powell was about the only black man that could expect to get a sizeable amount of the Republican party, and even him, I don't think could have won the Presidency.

With all the controversy and arrogance of this man, plus his black Republicanism, stacked against him, I'd be incredibly surprised if he won even the nomination from his party
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JugDack Donating Member (133 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:05 AM
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18. Yes, I suspect he'll win big, sadly.
He's already trouncing the other 2 GOP candidates to the point that people are asking when they'll quit the race. The Dems have a LOUSY statewide organization, far less money, and are on the "wrong" side of all the hot-button issues (gays, taxes, guns, etc). It'll be the dirtiest campaign in Ohio history (Blackwell's push poll should be all the proof anybody needs of that), and Blackwell will win. The fact that he's black won't be as big a factor as others think. First of all, the Dem nominee may also be black. But BLACKwell put himself in with the white xtian gang with the anti-gay ammendment last time, so he's "one of the good ones" (in White racist code).

I'll donate and work for whoever the dems nominate, but I'm not very optimistic.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:28 AM
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5. Ohioans we need to get the RON voter initiatives passed this Nov!
Issues 2,3,4 + 5 by Reform Ohio Now deal with election reform issues :

*campaign financing from $20,000 (OVER AGE 7) to $2,500.

*early voting

*fairness in redistricting

*MOST IMPORTANT non partisan board to oversee the administration of elections. (KEEPS BLACKWELL FROM RIGGING!)
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:31 AM
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6. as soon as the recording said "I'm Blackwell", I hung up.
so didn't get to hear the entire propaganda. Lucky me.
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:38 AM
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7. If this filthy little asshat hadn't 'handed' Shrub the state of Ohio,
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 07:40 AM by AzDar
through fraud,theft, and dirty tricks, we might be a tiny bit better off today than we are.
He's a CRIMINAL...I grew up in Cincinnati, and I know how nauseatingly conservative it is, but after Coingate and the Bush Administration's plundering of the nation, I'm betting Buckeyes won't fall for this "values" crap again (if, indeed they did before).

On edit:...How 'bout them Bengals??
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:45 AM
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8. Sure they will, over and over again. Americans are very lazy and
buzzwords satisfy them completely.
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meganmonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:47 AM
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9. Trainwreck!
:rofl:

And is there any real indication that Springer is planning to run?
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MeDeMax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:48 AM
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10. last week ? I got this call two months ago
I gave them all the answers they wanted to hear, someone from his campaign called to collect my promised pledge.

I told them to get lost.

If they call again I am going to let them hear about how their election fraud committing candidate isn't going to get anyone's support, period.



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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:02 AM
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11. Please, PLEASE nominate this guy.
Please, Ohio GOP, run Ken Blackwell for governor. That way we get to run 30 second ads of those ridiculous lines at the polls during Fiasco '04. We can run any of a number of angles, such as:

incompetence, for not having enough voting machines.
contempt for democracy, for not having enough voting machines on purpose.

I'm sure the Ohio NAACP has some good ones. Heck, we might not even need MoveOn.org.
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samplegirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:24 AM
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13. Ohio people are just plain stupid.
What the hell do Ohio people read? The comic strips & sports
pages only?
I would'nt be suprised if a big part of the coingate
money went to Diebold.
Somebodys got to stop the cancer spread of what these
malignant republicans are doing to my State.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:57 AM
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16. They're not plain stupid!
They're stupid with nuts! :)
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:43 PM
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25. Well, coming from a state
that elected Ahnold for governor, I suspect that people in OH read the same stupid ass comics that the voters in CA read.

I am convinced that Ahnold's star power trip to Ohio right before the election got some of these brain dead people out to vote for BushCo. I know some people who voted for Ahnold just because he was the Terminator. I kid you not.

Mz Pip
:dem:

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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:44 AM
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15. I got this call twice last week, hung up both times....
all Ohioans are not stupid , just that there's fewer of us than them.
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genieroze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:17 AM
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17. That guy should go crawl back under his rock.
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:45 PM
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19. Ohioans aren't really THAT stupid to elect this clown, are they? nt
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 07:57 PM
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20. We weren't that stupid to elect bu$h and we got him. It's the machines +
Rovian antics (caging, challenging African Americans, re-alloction of machines, purging of voter lists, changing long standing precincts, voter intimidation ). Give us Ohioans a fair court with subpoena power and we would gladly deliver Pres Kerry to you!
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 08:39 PM
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21. Good point! I hope you get those GOP crooks put in jail! nt
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 09:22 PM
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22. Springer will announce in January......
He is contractualy obligated until then....

All the people involed with his show would be unemployed...

He also said, in a private luncheon that I had the privlefge to attent, for some reason, that he was willing, if he took the plunge, to spend what ever it takes of his own money to put the governors chair back in the hands of the good people of Ohio.....
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:29 PM
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24. Springer's developed himself enough of a reputation. He needs to
stay away from mainstream politics.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:44 PM
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26. I did an informal poll of almost everyone I know.....
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 10:45 PM by WCGreen
People who never voted said they would register just to vote for him...

Dude, this guy is a populist with great hair....

BTW, your state has the terminator as a governor.....

I know my state.....

I have worked it for over 20 years...

If springer runs, he has more than a 50% chance of winning



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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:21 PM
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27. I didn't put those two things together, but yeah, I think you're right.
The thing is, I don't think Arnold'll win here cause the state's too liberal for him, and he's too liberal for the repugs. It's true thugh, people'll die for a movie star or any kind of star to be their governor. It's so wrong, but you are soo right. Hah.

Do you work for* Ohio, or in* it?
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:34 PM
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28. No I was the Treasurer for the Democratic Party in
Cuyahoga County (cleveland) for eight years, served as the dems elected rep on the Board of Elections for about a year, ran for office three times and was one of the main public faces for the party for all those years....

I still do work for a lot of local candidates although I am now disabled.....
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:53 PM
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30. Very cool!
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 11:55 PM by Tiggeroshii
Yeah, it would be interesting if he ran for Governor... I just don't see him as much of a statesman.

Well it sounds your a good person to talk to. Thanks for sharing. So many folk on DU seem to have done a lot of things aand seen quite a lot, but I'm still learning these things. Being a petty college student, I assume there's probably a lot of college students here(many of whom will of course achieve greatness), but it also seems as thought there is a number of very accomplished people. Very cool!
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:14 AM
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31. I was a page in college...
Too much fun....

Drank mny way from OSU to Cleveland State where I sobered up and got on with my life......

Keep you head on straight and jump right in.....

It's the best advice I ever had....

BTW, Springer was mayor of Cincinnati, Blackwells home town...

I'm so pissed at the Dem Party cause we could have taken Blackwell out in 1998.....

But they decided at the last minute to put all the money behind the gubentorial candidate who got spanked, and we knew he would get spanked.....
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 12:38 AM
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32. Haha thanks.
Still workin on getting over my ADHD tendencies(as most kids my age are in this technolgy driven world), but I've got ambitions waiting for fulfillment, so I better control em pretty soon! Heh. And there's also social distractions ya gotta get over. Bah, college is a gateway to greatness though... supposedly, so I'll ride it through. Still at a JC for now but looking towards UCBerkeley or UCLA as transfer opportunities.

I think you're righton about Springer, and I also think he has the opportunity to shape what people think of him for the better if he's an affective Governor as well. My 06 fantasy is to see Harris and Blackwell both get manhandled by their oppositions.

I love seeing how everything's unfolding with all this great watergate-like scandal. People are starting to get indicted left and right! From Delay to Bush. Who ever said Texas wasn't a land of opportunity ..for crime? :P

Well with this, I must hit the books and fill head with substantial lessons for the wonderful easternasian language of Japanese... :D


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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-20-05 03:00 AM
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33. Good Luck my Friend.......
BTW, I think the first word JApanese Baseball Players learn when they come to the US is fuck....

Cuase I saw the goy who plays for the White Sox mouth the word so clearly you could see from the side....

I told Mrs. WCGreen, isn;t America grand......
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Tiggeroshii Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 10:28 PM
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23. He has no chance. The only reason Harris won was cause it was a
Edited on Mon Sep-19-05 10:28 PM by Tiggeroshii
congressional/gerrymandered district. In a real election, neither will have a chance. But would it be at all suspicious to the eyes of Ohioans that the person who's in charge of counting votes may also be the republican nominee for governor?
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henslee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-19-05 11:39 PM
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29. I suspect a bogus FBI sanctioned lockdown of a ballot tabulation location
was the first task on the agenda. Fuck the Ohio dirty republican mafia.
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