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Berserker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:19 AM
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Qaeda Member Warns of Attacks
Sept. 11, 2005 — In an apparent Sept. 11 communiqué broadcast on ABC News, an al Qaeda operative threatens new attacks against cities in the US and Australia.

"Yesterday, London and Madrid. Tomorrow, Los Angeles and Melbourne, God willing. At this time, don't count on us demonstrating restraint or compassion," the tape warns. "We are Muslims. We love peace, but peace on our terms, peace as laid down by Islam, not the so-called peace of occupiers and dictators."
http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Investigation/story?id=1115448&page=1

Is this perfect timing?
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:24 AM
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1. peace laid down by Islam
is one of tolerance of one's neighbors, allowing them to live in peace alongside you. The Peace of Islam follows the teachings laid down in all faiths, all religions, for it comes from the same source. I don't believe the al Qaeda spokesman really knows what this is.
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Centered Donating Member (295 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 10:26 PM
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23. not certain
but my understanding was that muslims tolerance of other's religions applied to those who lived under Islamic rule (Islamic State). I would like my religion (or even lack thereof) to be tolerated without being under Islamic law.

I don't think the Taliban was very tolerant when they destroyed the Bamiyan Buddhas.

Sadly as with all religions the "do's and dont's" are reshaped and in some cases mutilated by those who profess to be strict followers.

I would agree with you though that I too don't believe the spokesman truely knows what he is professing to believe.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 10:32 PM
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24. I don't believe this guy was a muslim, or a member of al Qaeda
The timing is just too convenient.
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:27 AM
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2. This is when we need
a strong Dem to rise up and speak. I am not a Clark fan but he would be the perfect choice right now. People feel insecure, see the mess * has made of this disaster and Clark fits the bill for those looking for some semblance of leadership.
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WePurrsevere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:32 AM
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3. It's so hard to tell which is real and which is Bush*...
both al Qaeda and Bush use FEAR to manipulate people.

Who are the "terrorists" again? "Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And when you look into an abyss, the abyss also looks into you". ~ Nietzche
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halsaxby Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 12:56 PM
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14. I'm not sure there is a difference.
I'm not convinced that Al Qaeda is not the Middle Eastern branch of the Republican Party.
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shireen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:04 AM
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4. don't bother, Al Queda ...
the Bush administration is doing more than enough!
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hippiechick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:06 AM
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5. How conveeeeeeenient ....
:puke:
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 04:54 AM
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30. it's the obiligatory BOOGA-BOOGA
bush* is getting close to setting a new record for lowest approval rating for a "2nd*" termer. His numbers are more than just in the toilet - they've made it all the way to the sewage treatment plant

hence the latest BOOGA-BOOGA to scare the public - as if we aren't scared enough in the after-mess of FEMA/Homeland Security handling of Katrina

last year we had the bush* choir singing about "we're safer now than before September 11". How safe do you feel after seeing the "CEO" handle Katrina?

don't know about you, but although a terror attack has me a bit nervous - waiting (hoping) for help to arrive afterwards has me even more scared.

We're on our own kiddies - don't count on the calvary showing up, their too busy protecting bush*'s butt
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:07 AM
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6. Need some diversion?
Press terrorist button.
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:32 AM
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7. Al-Qaeda video threatens Australia (Hearld Sun)
Al-Qaeda video threatens Australia

From correspondents in Washington
11sep05

A VIDEOTAPE televised overnight purportedly from a US-member of al-Qaeda threatened Melbourne and Los Angeles on the fourth anniversary of the September 11 attacks.

ABC News in the US said it had received the video in Pakistan.
It reported the masked speaker appears to be Adam Gadahn, from southern California, who threatened attacks on the two cities, "Allah willing," and warns that the attackers will show no compassion.

"Yesterday, London and Madrid. Tomorrow, Los Angeles and Melbourne," he said.

(More)
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,16571618%255E1702,00.html
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:48 AM
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8. Ah yes. Bush and Cheney keeping the Al Qaeda myth alive...
Did Australia announce they were going to pull troops out of Iraqmire?
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 09:56 AM
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9. Heh-heh, they have the guys name, and yet the best they can do is
raise the alert? That's not exactly what I would call COUNTER Terrorism Seems they are being reactive rather than pro-active. How about trying to find the guy instead of preparing for AFTER the hit? :eyes:

Los Angeles Police Chief William Bratton told ABC News his city has "very robust counter terrorism" steps in place and was already on a heightened state of alert because of next month's Jewish holidays.
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 10:00 AM
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10. ready set go..poll numbers down.............pull
out a quada tape and attemp to scare the masses.......don't quite think its going to worl this time...........the administration couldn't even keep its own people safe in a hurricane...didn't care of they were given water or food........nope! not going to work!
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 03:49 PM
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20. bluedog, most of the MEpublicans I know voted for dimson
because of "national security." My once-leftist brother did. No other reason than he thought we'd be safer. So scaring the masses would seem to be counter-productive.
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rsmith6621 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 12:00 PM
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11. al Qaeda Member Warns of Attacks..Names Los Angeles and Melbourne
Sept. 11, 2005 — In an apparent Sept. 11 communiqué broadcast on ABC News, an al Qaeda operative threatens new attacks against cities in the US and Australia.

"Yesterday, London and Madrid. Tomorrow, Los Angeles and Melbourne, God willing. At this time, don't count on us demonstrating restraint or compassion," the tape warns. "We are Muslims. We love peace, but peace on our terms, peace as laid down by Islam, not the so-called peace of occupiers and dictators."

http://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Investigation/story?id=1115448&page=1
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ronnykmarshall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 12:00 PM
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12. Well we're screwed.
Think this admin is going a lift a finger to help us libbies in La la land?
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AspenRose Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 10:38 PM
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25. They've had their eye on the west coast for a while now
Didn't Jeb Bush make some sort of comment about wanting to see San Francisco in the ocean, or some such nonsense?

Blue Left Coast, brace yourselves!
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 01:42 PM
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16. If our government seriously considered staging catastrophes
in the 1960's to startle and persuade Americans into approving a war on Cuba, I have no doubt this right-wing administration would easily stage another catastrophe (a huge LIE with victems) to get us all back under its thumb, make us more manageable on the road to a total takeover far more oppressive that what they've done already:
U.S. Military Wanted to Provoke War With CubaBook: U.S. Military Drafted Plans to Terrorize U.S. Cities to Provoke War With Cuba
By David Ruppe

N E W Y O R K, May 1, 2001 In the early 1960s, America's top military leaders reportedly drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

Code named Operation Northwoods, the plans reportedly included the possible assassination of Cuban émigrés, sinking boats of Cuban refugees on the high seas, hijacking planes, blowing up a U.S. ship, and even orchestrating violent terrorism in U.S. cities.

America's top military brass even contemplated causing U.S. military casualties, writing: "We could blow up a U.S. ship in Guantanamo Bay and blame Cuba," and, "casualty lists in U.S. newspapers would cause a helpful wave of national indignation."
(snip/...)
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=92662&page=1

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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 12:09 PM
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13. With poll numbers like these, it's time for Rove to ressurect Osama
himself again.

:mad:
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 01:10 PM
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15. Too bad our "National Guard" is busy
guarding another nation. Might our enemies have noticed our bumbling response to Katrina?
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Carolab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 11:07 PM
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28. Might it be this is what the "admin" WANTS you to think? n/t
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freemen2005 Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 01:48 PM
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17. Al-CIAda at work
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 01:53 PM
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18. Sorry about my double post,.
This is the news the Chimp admin needs to deflect media attention.
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lthuedk Donating Member (551 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 01:54 PM
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19. Every time Bush suffers in the polls, al Qaeda threatens or blows
up something, as if bin Laden and Rove were joined at the brain stem. Keeping the fear titer high used to elevate Bush numbers.

Not any longer.

sp
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 03:51 PM
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21. ABC News broadcasts a threat from our 'enemy'.
ABC is MSM so I would like to know how much the BFEE paid ABC to run the 'communique'?
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ColonelTom Donating Member (415 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 08:53 PM
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22. Los Angeles and Melbourne - chosen for alliteration...
... not because they're being targeted in particular. Al Qaeda doesn't go around tipping its hand in its messages to the Western world, at least not this blatantly. That's not to say that some nutjobs might not take this as a signal to attack those cities, but this isn't Bin Laden or al-Zarqawi's style.
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JohnLocke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 11:03 PM
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26. Indeed. It'll probably be Sydney and San Francisco!
:scared:
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NeoConsSuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-11-05 11:07 PM
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27. So KKKarl Rove..
has learned to speak with a middle eastern accent.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-12-05 12:00 AM
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29. Why should terrorists attack the U.S.?
When they can just sit back and watch Bushian incompetence slowly lose cities one by one.
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