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doxieone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 06:38 PM
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Bush's Ancestor's Bank Seized (Grandad - Germany/Nazi)
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 06:39 PM by doxieone
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20031...

Bush Ancestor's Bank Seized by Gov't
12 minutes ago Add U.S. National - AP to My Yahoo!


By JONATHAN D. SALANT, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites)'s grandfather was a director of a bank seized by the federal government because of its ties to a German industrialist who helped bankroll Adolf Hitler's rise to power, government documents show.



Prescott Bush was one of seven directors of Union Banking Corp., a New York investment bank owned by a bank controlled by the Thyssen family, according to recently declassified National Archives documents reviewed by The Associated Press.


Fritz Thyssen was an early financial supporter of Hitler, whose Nazi party Thyssen believed was preferable to communism. The documents do not show any evidence Bush directly aided that effort. His position with Union Banking never was a political issue for Bush, who was elected to the Senate from Connecticut in 1952.


SNIP
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doxieone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 06:39 PM
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1. Friday night surpise????
hehe
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DUreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 06:53 PM
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11. Notice how they substitute Ancestor for GrandPoppy.
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maggrwaggr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 06:40 PM
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2. story is now rated a 5, with one vote! (mine) nt
nt
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 06:43 PM
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4. Yahoo!
Two votes.

Spread the word. The BFEE is getting its act exposed!
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 06:43 PM
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3. this is JUST NOW becoming news? Oh well
I'll take what I an get!

rating it a 5!!

:bounce:
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Nlighten1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 06:47 PM
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5. Oh dear...
It seems like the media is waking up.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 06:47 PM
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6. Now? They bring this up now?
Why?

Hardly new news in this neck of the woods.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 06:49 PM
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7. I knew this. But isn't there something more . . . some patent . . . ?
I caught it in passing somewhere, there was a patent for some manufacturing gizmo that Prescott Bush made available to the 3rd Reich in a rigged bidding situation. I think the patent was for something that was useful in the industrial base that the 3rd Reich built the war on.

Does anyone know more about this?
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arcane1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 06:51 PM
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10. this is only a small part of the story...
no mention of Herbert Walker, or the Trading with the Enemy Act

but it's a start!
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:01 PM
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38. You have something there...
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 09:02 PM by seventhson
but I believe it may have been standard oil or one of the other maufacturers that worked with the Bush-Nazi project. Maybe Dresser?

Tarpley.net may have it


Here's a link.



http://emperors-clothes.com/articles/randy/swas1.htm


Find "Farish" and "Patent" in the top window. A Farish holds the Bush trust today and it is stocked with the Nazi profits from killing Jews and their (BFEE) political opponents


Google "Farish" Bush and Nazis for the whole story.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:00 PM
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49. Yes, that was William Stamps Farish Sr.
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 10:01 PM by starroute
A few months ago, I went digging and found out a lot about the Farish family -- none of it reassuring.

In 1942, Farish was the president of Standard Oil of New Jersey, which had not only continued doing business with Germany after the entry of the U.S. into World War II, but had also provided certain patents for artificial rubber to the Nazis while hiding them from the U.S. government.

Farish's wife was connected with several prominent Houston families -- her mother was a Botts (as in Baker and Botts) and her father was a Rice (as in Rice University.) The Farishes' son married the daughter of General Robert E. Wood, a leading old-line right-winger of the 1940's and 1950's, and their daughter married into the Harriman family.

There were multiple business and personal ties between Farish and the Bushes, involving first Dresser Industries (of which Prescott Bush was president), which sold drill bits to Standard Oil, and then the Harriman connection

Farish's grandson, William Stamps Farish III, is currently married to a DuPont heiress, great-niece of the DuPonts who tried to overthrow FDR in 1934. He is one of George H.W. Bush's closest friends and is the current U.S. ambassador to Great Britain. He's extremely rich and extraordinarily secretive and has been so nearly invisible as ambassador that the British are wondering what he's doing there at all.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 06:50 PM
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8. Holy Shit Sherlock
This was published in the Federal Register in 1942.

This news was in the Boston Globe last year

This news was in the NYPOST last year.

John Loftus wrote about it in 1994 in his book "The Secret War..."

Prescott BUSH was a DIRECTOR of this Nazi bank seized by the federal government in violation of the Trading With the Enemy Act in a time of war. This bank financed the Nazi military machine which killed US soldiers.

Michael Moore is writing about in in his new book.

Tarpley included it in his unauthroized Bush biography in 1992.

Kitty Keely is writing about it in her new Bush book.

Three of the Directors were Skull and Bones members. Another was a Yalie. The other three directors were Nazis.

Thyssen hid his nazi investments in Switzerland.

The Bushes recieved over a million dollars after the Holocaust for their investments in it.

And yet AP is just writing about this NOW??? (Wife says it is the Michael Moore book coming out)

And why is it not TREASON???

And why do people not care if the President's financial fortune came from the Nazis and the Bin Ladens???






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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 06:50 PM
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9. Rate it 5 keep it up at 5
Bout time they saw the son of the son of the BFEE for who he is...
Byrd called Bush "GOERING" today on the Senate Floor...
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Hieronymus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:21 PM
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21. God,
I love Senator Byrd. He has the nerve to speak the truth. We have too many weenies in congress. :bounce:
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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:05 PM
Response to Reply #9
40. No way!
Did he really call him Goering?? I love Byrd! :bounce:


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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 06:56 PM
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12. And to think Perle and Wolfowitz have been
in the same pot with the Bushes.

They are traitors to those who perished in the gas chambers
at Hitler's command, whom the Bush and Harriman families financed
to build his empire of terror.

And here we have gone full circle.
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warrior1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 06:59 PM
Response to Reply #12
13. done.
nt
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:01 PM
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15. Nice little tidbit .. kinda stuck in there ..
<snip>
Trent Duffy, a spokesman for President Bush, declined to comment.
<snip>
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hedda_foil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:01 PM
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14. Wow! A mainstream story posted to Yahoo? RATE IT!!!
Give this puppy a "5" and get it to the top of Yahoo highest rated NOW!
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doxieone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:05 PM
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16. Here's a photo of Dear Old Grandad - Please rate it!!!
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Fovea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:07 PM
Response to Reply #14
18. 30 votes
and still 5.0
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 07:32 AM
Response to Reply #18
71. It's at 3.25 now @ 130 hits
The freepers probably are trying to get it off the radar screen.

The Washington Journal brought the fact up this morning from a small article in a newspaper.
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:07 PM
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17. Is the CIA playing a new tune on its Mighty Wurlitzer?
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:40 PM
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26. Or are even the career professionals at the National Archives...
fed up with this bunch?
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:12 PM
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19. Before anyone gets too excited... I got a name for you:
Joe Kennedy.
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:24 PM
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22. Yeh. And here's some names for you.
Joseph P. Kennedy Jr. Killed in Action over England while on a secret mission to bomb the NAZI V-2 sites.

John F. Kennedy Wounded in Action in the South Pacific when his PT-boat was rammed while on a night patrol.

Robert F. Kennedy Served as an enlisted man in the United States Navy in World War 2.

Ted was too young to volunteer. So he enlisted in the US Army after getting kicked out of Harvard in the 1950s.

Yes. I know what you're getting at, DemsUnite. Joe Sr. was a Wall Street banker and our Ambassador to England. He did NOT want to fight World War 2. The reason was he remembered what happened in World War 1. Millions dead for no good reason, just to keep the Kaiser and King happy.

FYI for the BFEE: FUCK THE KING! FUCK THE KAISER! AND FUCK YOU, BUSH!

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twilight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:39 PM
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25. thanks!
Too many scary things going on right now. I cannot elaborate unfortunately. However, I can say too many damn similarities IMO to those years.

We are talking about NOW. What is going on right NOW in this country! People of Middle Eastern descent are being held in detention. Is there more to it than this I ask.

I don't care what Joseph Kennedy did. I do not believe he was a Nazi in any respect.

:dem: :kick:
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:49 PM
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28. And here's a few names for you:
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 08:21 PM by DemsUnite
Bill O'Reilly

Sean Hannity

Mike Savage

Anne Coulter

Oliver North

etc. etc, etc...

If anybody starts paying attention to this, the GOP will be quick to remind us that those evil liberal Kennedys are just as complicit.

They'll also throw in the fact that George H.W. Bush fought (and was "heroically" shot down) as a WWII fighter pilot.

(on edit: typo)
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:12 PM
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41. DU Friend DemsUnite, those people are all liars!
Sure, the propaganda masters will do all they can to spin their deceit into a web of crap. We just need to stand up to it and cut it down by refuting whatever they say with the Truth.

What happens to NAZIs? They have to hide in South America and North America and pretend to be someone they never were.

What happens to KKK members? They wear hoods to hide their identities because if people knew who there were they'd be shamed out of town.

What happens to Mafia initiates? They swear to keep their mouths shut because if they squeal their whole network can go down.

What happens to religious charlatans? Pat "Korean War Chicken" Robertson, Jerry "9-11 Was Their Fault" Falwell and their errand boy Ralph Reed pretend to be pious because their satanic souls shine through when they stand in the light of day.

Where do oligarchs and eugenecists do? They make friends with fascists and communists alike to enslave the planet and destroy the excess population, just like British royalty has done for centuries.

So where do the members of these seemingly disparate organizations go for succor? Today's GOP.
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StClone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:24 PM
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42. Kennedy no problem
A Kennedy is married to the Gropenator and Teddy is the only nationally prominent politician. All the rest are dead or not PRESIDENT. If exposing Bush means tossing out the Kennedy past -- so be it!
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:45 PM
Response to Reply #28
55. Then I guess we need to bring up the eye witness who insists Bush
bailed out on his crew and let them die.
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:16 AM
Response to Reply #28
75. George H. W. Bush is a fucking liar
about his world war II heroics and has been proved he is a coward and a goddamn liar.

And the men that can say-so are still living.
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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:59 PM
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47. Prescott Bush's Senate Seat
The story of how Prescott Bush got his senate seat is kinda interesting. I read about it for about 30 minutes a few months ago.

The Senator that came b-4 Prescoot was some Irish Dude (father of nuclear policy in the USA?? Bredon McMahon or something) suddenly got a virulent form of cancer, dies about 1/2 way into his term, and Prescott gets his seat.

Another lucky break for the Bush Family.

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suegeo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:18 PM
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52. James O'Brien McMahon
Prescott got his senate seat in the 1950s after McMahon died of cancer. Prescott rode into office on Ike's coattails. Ike and Prescott played alot of golf.

FYI...
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:36 AM
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77. ...and this is where Nixon comes in...great thread in GD right now
Nixon owed his start in politics to Prescott the Elder.

Not to be confused with Prescott who is Poppy's brother and head of the US-China Chamber of Commerce.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.ph...
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:25 PM
Response to Reply #19
23. So What?
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 07:25 PM by patrice
That doesn't make the P. Bush history any less true.

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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:46 PM
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36. Rovian Talking Point.
Millions of Americans owned shares in companies like IBM, Ford, Standard Oil/Esso and General Motors who had Nazi deals and operated in Germany and Nazi occupied areas.

Kennedy , like millions of Americans, had investments in Germany.

But there is a HUGE difference between what Kennedy did and what the Bushes Walkers and Harrimans (the Groton/Andover/Yale skull and bones crew) did: They were the Directors of a NAZI BANK which arranged the FINANCING FOR HITLER AND THE THIRD REICH AND THEIR MILITARY MACHINE!!!

Kennedy was NOT prosecuted for his investments. Nor were his companies and financial institutions seized for trading with the enemy in a time of war as enemy assets and agents.

The BUSHES were.

No valid comparison.

Nice try Karlians. (not directed at you personally, Demsunite - but this IS a BFEE talking point. I would not repeat it)
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:47 PM
Response to Reply #36
45. I know that, you know that... most here know it, too.
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 09:51 PM by DemsUnite
But methinks you forget how easily the American public is manipulated by "Rovian Talking Points."

Until the problem of the "liberal media" is addressed, we might as well go to sleep and set our alarms on "Revolution."
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:44 PM
Response to Reply #19
54. Was he bankrolling the Nazis for 10 months after war was declared?
I doubt Prescott would ever have stopped if he had not been forced to. My Dad was fighting for his life against the Nazis while this traitor was bankrolling the Nazi war machine...helping to build the tanks and armaments that were killing US soldiers. Then he went on to bankroll the construction of Auschwitz to accomodate slave labor from Russia.
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:12 PM
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20. Those brave souls who wrote about this originally were called
conspiratorialists. It is always good to see truth vindicated even if it takes almost 60 years!

If you want to read more about this, here it is -

http://www.tarpley.net/bush2.htm
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doxieone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:28 PM
Response to Reply #20
24. Guardian is carrying the AP article as breaking US news
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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:56 PM
Response to Reply #20
31. This and many other links . . .
I collected a few of these articles. The links are in my History page:

http://home.columbus.rr.com/lfairban/Pages/History.htm
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Snazzy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:42 PM
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27. Could use more votes on Yahoo
Currently 4.6 with only 80 votes.
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Dirk39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:49 PM
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29. Poor poor Thyssen...
"Hitler, whose Nazi party Thyssen believed was preferable to communism."
This is historical BS.
I'm pretty sure 100 hundred years from now, we read in our history books:

"Bush, whose republican party the american corporations believed was preferable to Al Quaida"

Hello from Germany,
Dirk
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NashVegas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:54 PM
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30. Is this Damaging, or Damage Control?
The documents do not show any evidence Bush directly aided that effort. His position with Union Banking never was a political issue for Bush, who was elected to the Senate from Connecticut in 1952.

At first, I thought this story was an indicator for Mrs. Wesley Clark to starting choosing china patterns, now I'm not so sure.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 07:58 PM
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32. You call this late breaking news?
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 08:24 PM by rocknation
This is what's so great about being a evil DU-er--you're MONTHS ahead of the loop on such things!

But I doubt this story would be appearing even now if Bush hadn't insulted the mainstream media by announcing he would start interviewing with regional broadcasters. He said he wanted to get past "the media filter" which wasn't reporting enough of the "positive" aspects of his Iraqi occupation. (Of course, if he figures that regional reporters would be too inexperienced or unworldly to ask him tough questions, he insulted them as well.) Getting rid of Bush would be a lot easier with the mainstream media's help. Maybe that can happen now.

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html


rocknation
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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:04 PM
Response to Reply #32
39. The Documentation is new.
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 09:07 PM by lfairban
Reports of Bush's involvement with the seized bank have been circulating on the Internet for years and have been reported by some mainstream media. The newly declassified documents provide additional details about the Union Banking-Thyssen connection.

Trent Duffy, a spokesman for President Bush, declined to comment.


and at the end:

The new documents were first reported by freelance writer John Buchanan in The New Hampshire Gazette.

The New Hampshire Gazette article

Google Search

19 stories so far in Google News
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symbolman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:31 PM
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43. Thanks Rocknation
for posting my flash which has been downloaded by over a half a million people..

this Buccanan fellow actually attributed his search of the archives to me and my flash and Take Back the Media in general.. especially after the National Review TRASHED MY FLASH -- looks like they owe us an apology!

Not bragging, just agreeing that the DU'ers knew this a long time ago..

very cool
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neuvocat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:07 PM
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33. Shouldn't have pissed off the CIA spooks.
Now let's see what else comes out from the Bush closet.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #33
56. If only this all came out 2 years ago!!
If the CIA needs help ......
We should sign up!!!

They need to know they are not alone!!!

God Bless those whom choose the right path,
Have strength and forsight and faith in time of peril!!!
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:15 PM
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34. I passed this by a few times thinking, "Old news."
Glad to see it in AP. This means that it is going to be in 100's of local newspapers this Sunday! Weeeeee!

Can't wait to hear the RW talk hosts blathering about this "Liberal Hate Bush" campaign.
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jburton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:41 PM
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35.  Voted - kick
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lindashaw Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 08:56 PM
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37. Raul Groom said in his essay "The Great Spark Hunt" that the CIA
had gotten out the keys and was going to unlock a lot of closets. This is one! Wheeeee! Go, CIA!
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:55 PM
Response to Reply #37
46. Exactly so!! MUST READ:
The problem for Bush and his clan is a ring of keys in a special drawer at Langley that can be broken out whenever the agency needs to put the screws in someone. The keys don't open a special torture chamber or weapons cache the keys open closets. As I am writing this, a tallish man with a buzz cut his name is Steve, but his friends call him Stevo is opening that drawer and selecting a few keys off of that key ring. What closets these keys might open is a mystery, but one thing is for certain. What has kept the Bush family on top for this long is their ability to lock skeletons in closets and keep the closets locked forever. Until recently, this ability was rooted in no small part in the family's excellent relationship with the CIA, a relationship that is now only a distant, sordid memory. Soon, and very soon, some of those closets are going to come springing open.

Most of what is in the closets will come as no great surprise, since a great deal of the information is, if not well-known, at least available if one knows where to look. What will come as a surprise to many is how big the stories seem all of a sudden, now that the CIA has given its favorite reporters the go-ahead to start writing about the dark innuendo and damaging rumors that have been lurking in the shadows since George W. Bush declared his improbable and foolhardy intention to seek the office of President of the United States, despite an extremely checkered background.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/articles/03/10/10_...

Prescient or is just wishful thinking? We'll be watching. :evilgrin:

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The Commie Donating Member (94 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:10 PM
Response to Reply #46
51. hehehehehehe...
Time to clean the Nazi, reactionary, Capitalist pigs out of that big white house on Pennslyvania Avenue. :kick:

WAY TO GO, TENET! KEEP THE CIA CLEAN! :toast:
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:17 PM
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57. They have to see all avenues!!!
Not only do they need to unlock the closets but they need
to reach where it really hurts.....
Their wallets.....
Poppy invests in gold mines, swiss banks, pharmeceuticles, oil,
weapons and religion and illeagal drugs........

And Kennyboy still sits in his lap dictating policy......

Certainly other avenues as well can be mastered.

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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 09:38 PM
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44. How the Bush Family Wealth is Linked to the Jewish Holocaust (bombshell!!)


How the Bush Family Wealth is Linked to the Jewish Holocaust
<http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ROG309A.html >

Excerpt:

"But while President Bush publicly embraced the community of holocaust survivors in Washington last spring, he and his family have been keeping a secret from them for over 50 years about Prescott Bush, the president's grandfather. According to classified documents from Dutch intelligence and US government archives, President George W. Bush's grandfather, Prescott Bush made considerable profits off Auschwitz slave labor. In fact, President Bush himself is an heir to these profits from the holocaust which were placed in a blind trust in 1980 by his father, former president George Herbert Walker Bush.

Throughout the Bush family's decades of public life, the American press has gone out of its way to overlook one historical fact - that through Union Banking Corporation (UBC), Prescott Bush, and his father-in-law, George Herbert Walker, along with German industrialist Fritz Thyssen, financed Adolf Hitler before and during World War II. It was first reported in 1994 by John Loftus and Mark Aarons in The Secret War Against the Jews: How Western Espionage Betrayed the Jewish People.

The US government had known that many American companies were aiding Hitler, like Standard Oil, General Motors and Chase Bank, all of which was sanctioned after Pearl Harbor. But as The New York Times reporter Charles Higham later discovered, and published in his 1983 groundbreaking book, Trading With The Enemy; The Nazi American Money Plot 1933-1949, 'the government smothered everything during and even after the war.' Why?

According to Higham, the US government believed 'a public scandal ... would have drastically affected public morale, caused widespread strikes and perhaps provoked mutinies in the armed services.' Higham claims the government thought 'their trial and imprisonment would have made it impossible for the corporate boards to help the American war effort.'

However, Prescott Bush's banks were not just financing Hitler as previously reported. In fact, there was a distinct business link much deeper than Mr. Higham or Mr. Loftus knew at the time their books were published.

A classified Dutch intelligence file which was leaked by a courageous Dutch intelligence officer, along with newly surfaced information from U.S. government archives, 'confirms absolutely,' John Loftus says, the direct links between Bush, Thyssen and genocide profits from Auschwitz."


This article is dynamite, and there is quite a bit more information floating around the Net.
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:00 PM
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48. Ya let the Jewish voters see this! HELLO! Look at this President
that Sharon is buddy with :bounce:
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:07 PM
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50. More detail...pretty sickening...even more damaging info...
Gold Fillings, Auschwitz & George Bush
<http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/bushies.htm >


There are just too many good quotes...you'll have to read this one yourself to really understand what the Bush family was doing.



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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:34 PM
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60. Do you think that in some sort of sick way Poppy wants....
to be caught and relieved from all this misery?

Do you think that the fact he has never been caught for
all the crimes he has committed has disappointed him in his life
time?

Isn't it typical for psychopaths to have the urge and desire
to be caught and found?

Geeee....He has a big family and this could carry KARMA for
many generations.
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AntiCoup2K4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 01:54 PM
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81. Poppy's pushing 80 and not in the best of health from recent pictures
...Maybe the prospects of eternity in Hell have awakened what little conscience the man has? :shrug:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 10:38 PM
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53. No evidence Bush directly aided that effort?? There is plenty of
evidence. And the important stuff is that he continued to bankroll the military industrialist AFTER war was declared and apperently ONLY stopped because he was caught and forced to stop.

Notice how they pretend Fritz did it for the noble reason of fighting the dreaded scam communism. It should be interesting how the Freepers will spin their insistance that Hitler was a Socialist with this fight against the early century boogieman-for-profits Communism.
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:25 PM
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58. More documentation: John Loftus on Thyssen: Malloy????
Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 11:27 PM by seventhson
http://www.john-loftus.com/Thyssen.asp


Great Read


Malloy: read this!!!

Thanks for the props

Excerpt:




Heir to the Holocaust

The Bush Family and the Jews

How the Bush Family made its fortune from the Nazis


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Heir to the Holocaust


Throughout the Bush family's decades of public life, the American press has gone out of its way to overlook one historical fact - that through Union Banking Corporation (UBC), Prescott Bush, and his father-in-law, George Herbert Walker, along with German industrialist Fritz Thyssen, financed Adolf Hitler before and during World War II. It was first reported in 1994 by John Loftus and Mark Aarons in The Secret War Against the Jews: How Western Espionage Betrayed the Jewish People.


The business connections between Prescott Bush and Fritz Thyssen were more direct than what has been previously written. This new information reveals how Prescott Bush and UBC, which he managed directly, profited from the Holocaust. A case can be made that the inheritors of the Prescott Bush estate could be sued by survivors of the Holocaust and slave labor communities. To understand the complete picture of how Prescott Bush profited from the Holocaust, it is necessary to return to the year 1916, where it all began.


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Stephanie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:31 PM
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59. Thank you Al Gore for the Internet!
It's bubbling up! Everything that WE've known already, these last few miserable years, everything we've been posting about, educating each other about, eventually becomes common knowledge and bubbles up, until it's finally reported by the mainstream. This is a HUGE vindication. When I've tried to tell friends about this they've had a hard time believing it. A dam has broken today. I can't believe I'm seeing this on mainstream news.

Who has the jpeg of that newsclip from the paper at the time about the bank being seized under the Trading with the Enemies Act?
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:35 PM
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61. Here-here.......Gore you are the greatest....I salute you!!!
God bless ya bud!!!
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:37 PM
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62. Seems the rating might be in the process of being freeped...
it's dropped to 3.9.

I'm sure that many don't want this on the front pages of Yahoo news subscriptions.

Go back and rate it if you haven't!
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:38 PM
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63. in 1951, prescott sold his one share for $1.5 Million (link)
according to John Loftus in this article....and it was put into an account for shrub's inheritance by his father....

http://www.clamormagazine.org/bush.pdf

isn't it time that the shrub payed reparations for his inheritance??...%1.5 Million with interest since 1951 is quite a lot of money....

shrub should pay back his illegal/immoral inheritance...lots of others have been forced to do that, why not the shrub????


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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:44 PM
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64. This will probably be an unpopular opinion,
but this has very little to do with W. I think his record should stand or fall on its own.
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FlemingsGhost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:15 AM
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66. Agreed. Besides, if it didn't hurt Ahhnuld...
it won't touch W.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 11:49 AM
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79. It actually has a lot to do with W
See what I posted above (#49) about William Stamps Farish, Sr. and William Stamps Farish III for one example of a direct relationship.

The same elite families with the same elite connections (e.g., Skull and Bones) and the same elite agenda have been at this all through the 20th century and now into the 21st.

A major component of that agenda is a racial element. Not to get too tinfoil-y about it, but as nearly as I can tell these people are obsessed with the notion that holding onto their own power requires maintaining the dominance of the "white race" in a world where pinkish-beige people form an increasingly small minority.

Today, they're most scared of the Arabs, because they're sitting on top of the bulk of the world's shrinking oil reserves, but the Chinese are already being lined up as an even more credible and well-organized antagonist. So at the current moment, we're seeing an army of poor Hispanics and poor blacks and poor rednecks sent off to the Middle East to conquer a bunch of poor brown people because the inbred white masters of the world are afraid of having their power challenged by an overwhelming mass of extremely intelligent and productive yellow people.

(And meanwhile, stories float around on the Net about microbiologists in their basement laboratories brewing up designer germs to target only people of certain "racial" groupings. Are those merely urban legends, or are we going to see them confirmed as spectacularly as these Bush-Nazi connections?)

Excuse me for going off on a rant like this -- but I'm growing increasingly convinced that we delude ourselves if we think that people like the BFEE believe in the same consensus reality as the rest of us and are merely acting out of self-interest. If we want to understand what is going on in the world today, we have to bring to light their real belief system, in all its nutty glory. What happened in the 1930s and 1940s is a vital key to that belief system, because many aspects of it were stated openly then that have been concealed and disguised ever since. That is why exposes of W's grandfather are significant -- not because W may or may not be tainted by things that happened before he was born, but because the underlying attitudes live on.
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-03 11:45 PM
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65. Can someone connect the Bush Her Nuclear plant in Iran with Poppy.
I do believe this needs to be well researched and
publicized as well.

The public need to know what is at hand and the real reason
Bush wants Sharon to bomb this plant.
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slaveplanet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 01:28 AM
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67. see how the Freepers deal with it
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 07:06 AM
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69. How come the Freepers can re-publish?
They have the entire Buchanan article posted (I've alerted him and the NH Gazette).

Tut-tut
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RetroLounge Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 08:40 AM
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73. OMG
That are blaming Clinton for releasing the documentation!

They are SO fu*king sad...
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 09:08 AM
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74. ROFLMAO
Freepers post it and lie about it then blame it on Clinton for releasing it.

THANK GOD they released it finally.

Clinto should have released this in 2000.

I tried to get the Gore campaign on this and his HANDLERS WOULD NOT EVEN TELL HIM!!!!

That is when I began to believe the Gore campaign was infiltrated and the dems were infiltrated by the BFEE.. And why NOT??? We fall for people like Clark and Kerry SOOOOO easily.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 03:07 AM
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68. Please rate this article
Thanks :hi:
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Tuttle Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 07:07 AM
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70. Yes this was on 10 o'clock news
WTNH from New Haven CT last night (Friday)

Tut-tut
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seventhson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 07:57 AM
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72. Hometown boyz make good
Edited on Sat Oct-18-03 07:58 AM by seventhson
Finance Hitler. Make millions. Kill millions. Commit treason. Kill American GI's. Become famous pol;iticians. Take the White House TWICE!!! Get away Scot free!!!

Yale Alumnae news?

Boola-Boola
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PatrickS Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:31 AM
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76. Typical Repug hypocrisy
For conservatives to say that granpa Bush's history has nothing to do with Dumbya is totally hypocritical. It's funny that Repugs will claim that family is their biggest priority. That traditions, passed down from generation to generations, are an important aspect of what makes a great conservative family. BUT when there's something *really* negative about a family member, they suddenly say that the bad apple had NO influence on any future generations. Sure! You can't have both.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 10:54 AM
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78. More documentation links
How the Bush Family Wealth is Linked to the Jewish Holocaust
by Toby Rogers
http://globalresearch.ca/articles/ROG309A.html

Corporate Traitors
http://www.spiritone.com/~gdy52150/waryearsp5.html
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Algorem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-03 12:59 PM
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80. They put it in the Cleveland Pain Dealer this morning(p.A-9).
How can this be?
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