Rumsfeld says Iraq pullout won't end London-style attacks

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Rumsfeld says Iraq pullout won't end London-style attacks

LONDON (Reuters) - The withdrawal of U.S.-led troops from Iraq and Afghanistan would do nothing to end attacks such as the London bombings, U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said in an article published on Monday.

Writing in Britain's Financial Times newspaper, Rumsfeld said "extremists" had been killing people in attacks around the world for at least 20 years before the arrival of U.S. troops in Afghanistan and Iraq.

"The extremists do not seek a negotiated settlement with the west," he wrote. "They want America and Britain and other coalition allies to surrender our principles.

"Some seem to believe that accommodating extremist demands, including retreating from Afghanistan and Iraq, might put an end to their grievances, and, with them, future attacks," he added.
"But consider that when terrorists struck America on September 11 2001, a radical Islamist government ruled Afghanistan ... and Saddam Hussein tightly clung to power in Iraq."

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[madeline_con]

1. Rummy likes to hear himself talk.

He's an old windbag, and is shilling for endless years of occupation.

[Fovea]

2. But duct taping Rumsfeld

to a lightpole in Tikrit would.
Funny old world, aint it?

[magellan]

12. LOL!!

:spray: :rofl:

[Botany]

3. Speaking of extremists Rummy, look @ the group who signed this.

http://www.newamericancentury.org/iraqclintonletter.htm

I live for the day that rummy & company are put on trial for war
crimes.

[lumpy]

19. Thanks for the posting the NAC letter site.

I hadn't seen that letter until now. Rummy and the rabble-rousers had Iraq in their sights for a long time.

[elperromagico]

4. In other words, whether we're in Iraq or not,

attacks will continue.

Okay, I get it now.

[Inland]

5. Iraq pullout only stops attacks in Iraq, then. Still a good idea.

I don't understand why an Iraq pullout has to slice bread, clean your floors and whiten your teeth before it's a good idea. Isn't it enough that we don't lose a few troops a month, and a billion a week, even if a withdrawal doesn't cure all our ills?

[Cha]

6. But, Bombing Iraq precipitated

them.

rummy lies for a living.

[Bluzmann57]

7. He's right, at least somewhat.

Pulling troops out of Iraq won't end London-style attacks. Too bad, but it's the truth. But he is clinging to the already disproven notion that Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11.

[RDANGELO]

14. only as far as he goes

He won't mention the many military bases in the middle east,the human rights problems of Israel,the support for regimes like the Saudis while most people live in poverty. In other words, the policies that were in place before we attacked Afghanistan and Iraq. Of course, there is no excuse for the cowardly killing of Innocent people.

[mmonk]

8. So that means

they may as well as stay I suppose since he's cleared that up. Does he have any evidence for his claim? One might cite the attacks as evidence they will keep being attacked if they stay.

[elperromagico]

11. It sounds to me like Rummy is saying

that whether we're in Iraq or not really doesn't make a difference.

There was terrorism before we invaded Iraq and there has been terrorism since we invaded Iraq.

But, hey, since we're already there... why not stick around?

I think that's what Rummy is saying, anyway.

[PunkPop]

9. No Dumbsfeld

That's because you've stirred up so much shit it'll take years to clean it up.

Scumbag motherfucker.

[Maple]

10. It requires more than pulling out of Iraq

although that would certainly help...but it also requires a viable homeland for the Palestinians, no more propping up of the Saudi 'royal' family, no more bases in the ME, and no more installing dictators in other people's countries.

In other words...they don't 'hate you for your freedom'...they just want their own.

[flordehinojos]

13. rumsfeld is like ..... which of the evil batman characters?

[PunkPop]

15. Wasn't there one with glasses? Kind of nerdy?

Maybe I'm thinking of another comic book hero?

[flordehinojos]

27. i don't know ... ROBIN was a good guy ... is that who you are thinking

about?

Bush is more like the SCARECROW, a mad scientist, (though bush is no scientist but he is both mad in the sense of crazy, and mad in the sense of anger , who specializes in the nature of fear.

especially in bush's case the planting of fear of a perceived danger, for the most part not real and only existing in bush's mind.

[dArKeR]

16. I agree. Only you, Cheney, Bush, Rice convicted for Crimes Against

Humanity will serve justice!

[jobycom]

17. Neither would saving a small child from drowning, but some things you

do because they are the right things to do, not because you want something from it.

[lumpy]

18. Can there be any doubt that

Rummy and his buddies planned to attack Iraq long before they got into power?

[Gregorian]

20. What a smug piece of shit.

No, they want us to stop fucking with them. Any idiot can see that.

But since terrorism is absolutely of no concern to those trying to steal oil and take control of the middle east, we are guaranteed to see more terrorism under this administration. Who do these people think they are fooling? Answer: Stupid americans who believe fox is a news outlet. And noone else.

[The_Casual_Observer]

21. True, once the genie is out of the bottle you don't know WTF will happen

[daleo]

22. Iraq pullout won't stop London-style attacks, Rummy says

Even if they did, Rummy could make sure that there were still London style attacks anyway.

[area51]

23. uh-huh.

Wanna bet, RumsFAILED?

And RumsFAILED said:

"{They want us} to surrender our principles."

And you know all about surrendering principles, don't you, asshole? :mad:

[hlthe2b]

24. Like a broken clock...right a couple times each day...

But only because we have done decades worth of damage, causing two or more generations worth of hate...

[cliss]

25. "Extremists doe not seek a negotiated settlement

with the West".

I wonder, how does RumsFailed know that? Has he tried?

Let's turn back the clock.....about 3 weeks ago. Wasn't there a thread on the LBN that said, "U.S. negotiating with Iraqi insurgents, Jaafari will have no part of it".

Remember that? There is no depth this lying mot*****cker will not stoop to. No lows too low to be outdone.

Would you believe, I actually called the White House about 2 years ago. I ranted on for about 5 minutes. I said they needed to get rid of RumsFool "right away". "Throw the man out", "he needs to go", on and on.

THAT's pretty amazing. I'm usually a very sweet person. I actually despise this bastard the most of the whole bunch, and I know that's hard.

[wickerwoman]

26. It seems to have worked out OK for Spain.

How many times have they been hit since they elected liberals and withdrew from Iraq?