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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:04 PM
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(US House) Warning over (London) bomb pictures leak (BBC News)
(I wonder if this is just another backhanded attack on the Press?)

Thursday, 28 July, 2005, 11:59 GMT 12:59 UK

Warning over bomb pictures leak


Evidence on the London bombings leaked in America could harm UK-US relations, a leading US politician has warned.

The warning from the chairman of the House of Representatives' Intelligence Committee follows the broadcast of pictures obtained by a US TV network. Pete Hoekstra said the images of a wrecked Tube carriage and a bomb hoard shown by ABC could cause suspicions.

"We can't be looking over each other's shoulder wondering who is leaking whose information," Mr Hoekstra said. America's relationship with the UK could be damaged if further information emerged which the British police were trying to keep under wraps, the congressman added. "It's impossible to know how tight police are being with the details in London but if the investigation is put in jeopardy, that would be a tragedy."

New York Times leak

The images of bomb components recovered from a car believed to have been hired by one of the 7 July bombers and a wrecked Tube carriage interior obtained by ABC have been reproduced in the UK and around the world, including on BBC News outlets.

<http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4723885.stm>

(more and picture at the link above)
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Goblyn Donating Member (36 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:22 PM
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1. Disinfo
Pete Hoekstra is puppet of Repub agenda..

No credibility..

SO much I moved out of his district last november :)
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:23 PM
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2. yes, they wouldn't want evidence of their MIHOP getting out
This wouldn't be getting any publicity in the US if it were the IRA... it was staged.
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bearfan454 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:30 PM
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3. Does some of the shrapnel say Halliburton on it ? n/t
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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 08:35 PM
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4. probably Halliburton logos on plastic bomb wrappers in some photos
No surprises. Where do you think Giuliani gets them all from?
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-30-05 08:49 PM
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19. Oh and wasn't there an e-mail from Bush to Blair in the picture?
LOL!!!

The British intel's paranoia is proof of their own 7-7-05 mihop.
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cire4 Donating Member (580 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:38 AM
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7. So the fact that it is getting media attention in the US
means that the bombings must have been "staged" by the British/American government?

Sorry, but the logic does not follow. The Madrid train bombings got loads of attention and we all know they were not "staged" by the Spanish or American governments.

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wli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 10:40 AM
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8. evidence, not proof
The force of the conclusion is likelihood, not certainty. Only physical evidence can yield certainty, and often even that fails.

MIHOP on the Madrid bombings is unlikely despite elevated press coverage. The nature of the press coverage differed substantially from more likely MIHOP incidents also.
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Sven77 Donating Member (645 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:00 PM
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5. bomb might have been under the train
i hope the people dont believe the load of bull blair/bush is pushing.
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Pithy Cherub Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-28-05 10:13 PM
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6. US still reeling over the DSM leaks.
US when it threatens now, the UK is just terrified. :sarcasm:
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 11:51 AM
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9. Kick n/t
:kick:
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 12:46 PM
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10. Don't want the story of their outing the alleged terrorist ring in the UK
to get any bigger, apparently.
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Henny Penny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:07 PM
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11. It seems to me that the love affair between Tony and *
has soured of late and this is manifesting itself in tit for tat leaks to the press that will make life difficult for the other.

DSM, troop withdrawal, pictures from the London bombing.... the question is why should these last pictures cause difficulties for Blair?

Are they a way of saying "we have someone on the inside at the highest level?" or "we have evidence that your account of events is incorrect and we might just leak it?"

Of course, as usual, this is just speculation on my part, but I can't help noticing that Tony wasn't included in *'s new "Kyoto lite" deal with the Aussies et al, even though he was trying very hard to get the G8 lot to do a deal on the environment.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:19 PM
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13. Yes, but the Japanese are in on the "Kyoto lite" deal also...
...,I'm still trying to figure that one out too.

Where in Ireland do you live? I'm 1/2 Irish.
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Henny Penny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:19 PM
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15. I live in Meath. Where are your folks from?
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:39 PM
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17. I know a guy here in Atlanta from Meath, I think his town was Trim
My Grand-Father was from County Mayo, a town called Irishtown (no kidding) and my Grand-mother was from Cork in County Cork, but when my Uncle tried to research the family tree, he stopped when it turned out we are related to most of Ireland.:toast:
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:16 PM
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12. It is hard to say what the big deal about the pictures was anyway
One picture showed a milk-bottle bomb. Unless this bomb somehow doesn't "look right" compared to the bombs used in the subways, what possible harm can this cause to the police effort? If anything, it ought to help the police in as much as it provides some tangible evidence of their claims and may jog some witness's memory out there. Ditto for the subway blast photo.
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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 01:30 PM
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14. I think the harm a leak like this does is, it makes prosecution more...
Edited on Fri Jul-29-05 01:31 PM by Up2Late
...difficult, if they do find someone to hold responsible for this.

Most of the time, the police like to have several facts and bits of evidence that "only the Bomber would or could know."

Now, anyone they bring in for questioning, or even a suspect under cross-examination in court can say, "Yes, I did say that it was a 'milk jug' that contained the explosives, but I saw that in the NY Times, thousands of people know that now."
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 03:49 PM
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18. In general, that is a good point.
Withholding some facts for the sake of the prosecution and investigation of a crime can be a good idea. I guess I would just question the point at which it turns into withholding too much from the public, and hampering the investigation due to lack of trust. Of course I will admit to being more skeptical than the average member of the public.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-29-05 02:35 PM
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16. American MSM journalists just love breaking the law
just ask Fauxnews 'journalist' Giraldo Riviera, he apparently got away with giving out troop movements on live t.v. and during combat! To bad no one will enforce the laws against these traitors!
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