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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:52 AM
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34% Say Rove Should Resign
July 20, 2005--Thirty-four percent (34%) of American adults believe that Presidential Aide Karl Rove should resign. A Rasmussen Reports survey found that 21% disagree while most (55%) are not sure.

Democrats, by a 49% to 9% margin, say that Rove should resign.

Rove has been accused by leading Democrats of leaking the name of a CIA operative. Thirty-five percent (35%) believe they are accusing Rove because they believe he is guilty. An equal number believe partisan politics is the motivation.

Democrats, by a 54% to 14% margin, say the accusations are being made because Rove is guilty. Republicans, by a 57% to 17% margin, believe partisan politics are responsible. Those not affiliated with either party are evenly divided.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/2005/Rove.htm
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:54 AM
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1. I don't think he should resign.
He should be fired!!
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Talfen Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:56 AM
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4. He won't be fired
Bush will not fire anyone, haven't you noticed that?
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UpInArms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:59 AM
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5. Welcome to DU Talfen!
Glad to have you here :hi:

I personally expect *Co to give Rove the Medal of Honor. That's what he does for all his failures. Putting lipstick on the pigs has been the MO for this mal-administration.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:09 AM
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9. Fitz will indict Rove, and a week later * will pardon Rove ...........
mark my words.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:46 AM
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21. If/when Rove is indicted Bush-Cheney will have problems of their own
Rove is the tip of the bloddy iceberg, they lied to go to war, "fixed the policies to convince the american people of the mushroom clouds to come. Like I said, Rove is indicted, Cheney retires due to health reasons, Bush? that should be interesting with no Rove or Cheney around
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:54 PM
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26. Your words are marked, but if Rove is indicted, Herr Busch will have....
...very few supporters for giving Rove a pardon.

Additionally, Herr Busch and Cheney will have their own problems to deal with stemming from the evidence uncovered in this Grand Jury. Why do you think they both retained lawyers when this story first surfaced two years ago?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:29 PM
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42. I rather suspect that * would be secretly applauded by
most the Republicans if he pardoned Rove and any others involved. They won't touch him. Their little dictatorship is in place. They hold ALL the cards.
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Talfen Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:11 AM
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13. Thanks
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 10:12 AM by Talfen
Rove will get a medal or a promotion, maybe the SC?







ha ha j/k I hope he will not have that chance, of course the hearings could be entertaining. I also doubt that Bush's handlers will allow it.


edit: to clarify
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FloridaPat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:04 AM
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8. Not in public. I did hear Tenet was asked to resign by *.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:33 PM
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29. it was a deal-you resign and i will bestow the Medal of Freedom.
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:12 AM
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14. yeah, I know. And he won't resign either.
But he *should* be fired.

Welcome to DU!
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alarcojon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:38 AM
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18. Friring someone would be like admitting to an error
which is just not something Bush is real fond of doing.

Curioser and curioser...
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Jackpine Radical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 11:44 AM
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24. Bush won't fire anyone who's got dirt on Bush.
Unfortunately for Bush, that's everyone who knows him.
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:55 PM
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27. He's already forced a number of people to resign....
...anyone else would indentify that as being fired.
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:41 PM
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32. BushCo firings
Isn't the only ones he's fired been Lawrence Lindsay (for accurately predicting how much the I-rack war would cost) and Paul O'neill (for not being in step with the party line)? He'll never fire Rovian not matter what he did/may have done/will do in the future
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:08 PM
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33. I don't think he's allowed
to fire anyone...
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dchill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 02:09 PM
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34. Rove won't let him.
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Chicago Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 03:48 PM
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36. Its like admitting he's wrong...
Which he can't (what a truly evil person, not able to admit error, how did he ever get this far?)
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:09 AM
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11. Then go to jail.
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Brundle_Fly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 05:23 PM
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39. neither....
let this albatross hang from shrub's neck for the long haul.
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Avalux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:56 AM
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2. I don't believe these numbers.
And then comparing Rove's favorability rating to Dean's (or what Rasmussen says Dean's are) in the article. Where is the relevance in that? :shrug:
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second edition Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 09:56 AM
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3. These are repub pollers- the numbers are more than likely higher n/t
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ECH1969 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:02 AM
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6. Only 21% say Rove should stay on
Most don't understand the case and probably don't know who this Rove person is.
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:41 AM
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19. Bogus figures - 75% of americans believe Bush should resign if he
lied to go to war> google it!!
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:04 AM
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7. "Rove has been accused by leading Democrats..."
that line alone makes this a biased report. Isn't Fitzgerald a republican?
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:09 AM
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10. More Repuke poll-cooking...
I can just imagine the question, "Even though the investigation is not complete, are you absolutely certain that the loyal and honest Karl Rove should give in to the vicious partisan attacks of Democrats who will say anything and resign?"
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Sparkman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:10 AM
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12. I wonder if the 55% unsure, were 1st asked if they knew several key points
Because, the UNSURE may know little of the facts. Pollsters full question barrage, anyone know?
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mandomom Donating Member (327 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:15 AM
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15. Shortly after pardoning Rove
Bush will send his henchmen to the senate to enlist his lockstep puppets in convincing Justice to investigate Fitzgerald. This would be in keeping with the Bushfascio philosophy of government. Kerry's a war hero? Tell the world he's a lying coward with stolen medals. Fitzgerald is an honest prosecutor? Bush and Rove have likely already done their oppo research and are ready to launch as soon as any indictment is announced.

Fitzgerald needs to look hard at Bush as AT LEAST an undicted co-conspirator in obstruction of justice. Did Bush cover for Rove in his FBI interviws? Did he fail to disclose all that he knew when Fitzgerald "chatted" with him?
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:27 AM
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16. I beg to differ
Edited on Wed Jul-20-05 10:27 AM by rocknation
Rove has been accused by leading Democrats of leaking the name of a CIA operative.

The accusation came from "leading" Democrats? Funny, I thought the accusations came FROM THE CIA!!!

:headbang:
rocknation
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The Sleeper Donating Member (229 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:33 AM
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17. and 52% think...
Rove is an Orc like character that magically sprung to life from the pages of Lord of the Rings (thanks to the mercy of our Lord and Savior, of course)
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rainbow4321 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:43 AM
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20. Rove will stay put--he knows where the suicided bodies are buried
Think of how much dirt he has on chimp ass....most of which Rove himself is responsible for creating. Chimp won't even think about asking him to leave.. if anything happens legally then it will probably be the classic standby excuse: Rove saying he is stepping down because it is distracting from the prez's message and chimp thanking him for his service, blah, blah, blah.
Anyone notice how all of this has taken attention from Delay????

Hopefully, by the time all is said and done, chimp will say to Rove "we should have just gone back to the ranch in November"...maybe we can put some barbed wire up and a guard tower in preparation for their final trip to the ranch? Hmmm..it can be a new federal prison..turn the "Western White House" into the "Western Gitmo" for chimp and his fellow war criminals.
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Talfen Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:54 AM
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22. In order for your dream
To come true the Democrats must first take back the House and the Senate. Unfortunately I do not see the Republicans turning on Bush and handing down an impeachment or indictment. So it will be up to to the Democrats to win overwhelmingly in '06
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Media_Lies_Daily Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:57 PM
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28. I think you need to rethink your theory....
...Rove is the one that knows he has to keep his mouth shut or find himself having an "accident".
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Massacure Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 10:57 AM
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23. The issue is complex. Things will change as more is learned.
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electron_blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 12:44 PM
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25. Care to elaborate massacure?
Love your bumpersticker, btw.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:35 PM
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31. reminds me the Bugman case--unetichical if OK (waiting to see if
something illegal (the law) emerges).
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noonwitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 01:35 PM
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30. That number will rise if the grand jury indicts him
They should wait until after the investigation is complete.
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James T. Kirk Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 03:44 PM
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35. "Democrats, by a 49% to 9% margin, say that Rove should resign."
Only 49 percent of Democrats? Huh?
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samsingh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 04:48 PM
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37. maybe the others just want him fired
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 05:16 PM
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38. Tared , feathered and life imprisonment!!!
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Az_lefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-20-05 06:56 PM
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40. NO no no no...
I want Rove hanging from monkey-boys neck until he or they are indicted. A simple resignation is far too lenient.
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