Congressman Apologizes for Hitler Remark (moron repuke)

[leftchick]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050717/ap_on_go_co/hitler_remark_apology

TRENTON, N.J. - Congressman Frank LoBiondo apologized for suggesting that Guantanamo Bay detainees were worse than Adolf Hitler because the Nazi dictator "sort of had a political rationale about what he was doing."

The New Jersey Republican made the remark on a radio talk show this past week, describing his recent visit to the Naval Base in Cuba. Muslim terrorists, he said, were more evil than Hitler.

"Hitler, in his philosophy, was, you know, he hated Jews, he was murdering Jews, and there were some people he liked. But he never went to the level that these people are going to," LoBiondo said.

[getmeouttahere]

Let's see, gassing MILLIONS isn't the lowest level....

I've said it before and I'll say it again...I'm surprised there aren't more suicide bombers, because if you have nothing, you have nothing to lose, and that's where a lot of these people are in the world today.

[olddad56]

2. it's only the lowest level so far. Give our nazis more time.

[ogradda]

1. I wish I knew what the hell

was wrong with the way some people think. Are they soulless? Is that it?

[getmeouttahere]

3. Yes, they sold their souls to BushCo!

[Judi Lynn]

4. They probably try to steer this guy away from the media.

He doesn't seem too bright. I think he actually doesn't know much about history. He's never going to know any more, either, if he takes the right-wing word for it!

[tblue37]

6. The picture on the right

makes me think Ernest Goes to Washington.

[Dr.Phool]

7. The Italian version of Pee-Wee Herman.

[leftchick]

25. Judi Lynn......

:puke:


Thanks...

[WCGreen]

28. He's a lady's man.... Sauve sophisticated....

I bet he wears white leather shoes in the summer time......

[TahitiNut]

5. Pathological projection.

These people see their own corruption mirrored in anyone opposing them.

[Burried News]

23. Spot on. They do it time and again.

[54anickel]

8. Heh-heh, a trial ballon for defending BFEE? Yeah, they did some bad

things, but they weren't THAT bad. :eyes:

Sheesh, Repuke defending Hitler - perhaps cuz "they ain't no better in some respects"?

[wryter2000]

16. As Sam Seder said the other day...

The gold standard is not killing 6 million people. As long as you didn't kill 6 million people, you're okay.

Lord but these morans are desperate.

[Zorra]

9. This is how all republicans think - Frankie is so dumb he just let it slip

out.

Anything, no matter how evil, is ok if it fits the party agenda.

[Catchawave]

10. Why I love Keith Olbermann.......

Enough with the Nazi references! (Keith Olbermann)

LOS ANGELES - A message to Dick Durbin, Rick Santorum, and Robert Byrd - as they combine to delay my reports to you about the night I inadvertently offered Bill Clinton my New York City subway pass, and my experiences behind the scenes at "The Tonight Show," and my private eight minutes with Mary Carey.

The message is this: Boys, just don’t say "Nazi" ever again in your life.

There’s no place for the reference in this culture. Not about the Republican tactics, not about the Democratic tactics, not about Guantanamo Bay.

The Republicans are not the SS, and the Democrats are not the Gestapo, and Gitmo is not Buchenwald.

Apologize profoundly and profusely, burst into tears if you will, but the analogies are wrong, offensive, and deeply hurtful. And I speak as a European of protestant descent.

More over, this particular moment in our history is no time to pour more ice into the crevices of our national political discourse. We have enough of the makings of fighting in the streets, enough of the rancor that preceded the caning of Senator Sumner on the floor of the Senate in 1856, without people throwing the devils of the 20th Century into the mix.

In fact, it would be a really good idea, for the sake of the country, and to steer out of this skid of Party First and Country Second that now pervades both sides, if the three distinguished gentlemen resigned, or at least announced they would not run again. Because apologies or not, they are at best, carrying the disease of branding other American leaders - no matter how wrong-headed some of those "others" might seem to you - with the same kind of vitriol that enabled the rise of the Nazis in Germany.

Stop it, stop it now, stop it for good.

As to the other items: Jay Leno likes to visit with his guests beforehand, Bill Clinton was as amused by my faux pas as I was, and Mary Carey is a bunch smarter than she lets on. Details later - a plane awaits me.

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Edit: to add link to KO's blog

[bpilgrim]

11. fascist is clearly more appropriate

:evilgrin:

peace

[Catchawave]

13. Who's a facist? Olbermann? n/t

[bpilgrim]

18. the neoCONs

hello ;-)

peace

[Catchawave]

19. Olbermann's a NeoCON ?

Sorry if I'm not following along....just.need.some.more.info :pals:

[bpilgrim]

20. no, the neoCONs are FASCIST.

not KO.

hows that? :hi:

peace

[Catchawave]

21. Whew, why didn't you say that

in the first place. :pals:

[bpilgrim]

22. see post #18

=)

peace

[Stray Roots]

32. The justification of torture was more offensive than

the Nazi metaphor. I don't think Dick Durban had anything to apologize for.

[rosesaylavee]

33. Nazi comparisons are necessary

I am sorry but I can't disagree more. To **not** mention the crimes of the Nazis and how fascism has infiltrated our policies now is to forget our collective history. The tactics used by the Nazis were heinous as are the actions of the select few performing torture on the renditioned prisoners - whether they are at Gitmo or Egypt or ...

No there isn't gassing but there is a racial/ethnic element here that should not be ignored or not discussed but it is just too painful. Remember, we are not the ones being tortured... it is our responsibility to speak out in their behalf as a civilized group of people.

If it takes a comparison to Nazis for people to wake up and realize what a slippery slope we are on, then so be it.

[rateyes]

12. How in the hell...

does such an idiot/asshole get elected? Is this just more proof of election-fixing DIEBOLD?

[MGKrebs]

14. Well he does represent Atlantic City...

I'm just sayin'.

[rateyes]

15. lol...eom

[geckosfeet]

26. Oh yeah. I ask myself this daily. I just hope we hear these comments

by their election opponents in the next election cycle.

[Peace Patriot]

17. What are the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay charged with? When were

they convicted? By whom? What are their sentences? I don't care what this idiot "pod person" may have been programmed to repeat, nor what may have gone wrong with his wiring to garble the "talking point" (us good, Guantanamo prisoners bad; us not Nazis, them Nazis). What I care about is the whitewashing of a gulag--a concentration camp-- where human beings who have been deprived of all legal rights can be held indefinitely, punished, tortured, forced to confess things they didn't do, brainwashed, experimented upon, programmed to carry out commands, driven insane and/or killed, with complete impunity and lack of accountability.

Because that is what we have.

I heard part of a Congressional hearing on Friday on CNN radio--in my car, briefly, so I couldn't catch names or context--but what I heard chilled my soul. There was a chair who described himself as "on the home team," who proposed that Congress enshrine "enemy combatant" status and military tribunals in federal law--to get the Bush regime and its criminal lapdogs in the military off the hook for egregious war crimes and violations of national and international law at Guantanamo Bay and other prisons, and to make such gulags and military tribunals legal IN THE FUTURE. He didn't say it quite that way, but that is clearly what he meant. They have a problem. He, as a member of "the home team," was going to help them solve it, by sanctifying this concentration camp in law.

Interestingly, the military testifiers were slow to endorse this idea. They referred to quaint items like the Code of Military Justice and the Geneva Conventions. The chair grilled them on the lack of prosecutions, and lack of prospect of any prosecutions in the near future, and basically proposed that Congress alleviate their embarrassment by codifying Bush's gulag. Carl Levin was on this committee, and apparently out of the room when this exchange took place. And that's all that I heard.

The chair--obviously a Bushite and an oily type of "pod person" and lapdog--is a real menace. And, like all Bushites, he doesn't want the rule of law. He wants the rule of Bush. And that means bending, breaking and re-writing the law to suit the purposes of the Bush Cartel.

La Biondo's brain-damaged statement about these prisoners being "worse than Adolf Hitler" is serving this lawless agenda, by reversing the truth and associating these uncharged and unconvicted and probably mostly innocent captives (innocent of anything except defending their country from invasion, if that--IF THAT) with evil incarnate. These men are NOT evil incarnate. WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'VE DONE. WE DON'T KNOW WHY THEY ARE IN PRISON. WE DON'T HAVE ANY PROSPECT OF KNOWING IN THE NEAR FUTURE. AND NEITHER DO *THEY* KNOW WHAT THEY ARE CHARGED WITH OR WHY THEY ARE THERE.

What are the charges? Where is the evidence? Who are the witnesses? What is their trial date? Nothing--nothing!--do we, or the prisoners, know of these fundamental items of human legal rights.

If they bore any guilt whatsoever for 9/11, we would surely have heard about it by now. And, AT THIS POINT--after years of helpless captivity, marked by a complete lack of human rights and Geneva protections--HOW CAN WE TRUST ANYTHING THEY CONFESS TO, OR THAT IS SAID AGAINST THEM?

This is the bind that the legal Nazis of the Bush Cartel have gotten themselves into, and what this Bushite Congressman wants to help get them out of (being "on the home team"). And the classic Nazi propaganda technique that they are using to cover it up is to accuse of the VICTIMS of the very crimes for which they themselves are guilty: disregarding law, innocent bystanders, and human decency in the pursuit of power.

[Mr_Spock]

27. Excellent post.

You make many great point there...

[geckosfeet]

24. This guy is actually minimizing Hitlers insanity !! He must be related to

Santorum. Insensitive idiots whose brains frequently stop working whilst they say something so stupid, so totally outrageous that their audiences jaws drop in silent unison.

I just hope that these comments are run as sound tracks and background noise throughout the 2006/2008 election cycles like the Dean Scream was. Where is that darn liberal media when you need them.

[jzodda]

29. why is mentioning Hitler so in fashion these days?

Seems both sides now every week make some comparison to Hitler and Nazi Germany. I do not remember them doing this before all the time.. I Wonder what is going on?

My gut tells me that the ignorant masses these days know little about Hitler and his 12 year reign of hell. They know he was bad and so its enough to make pols want to mention him as an instant way of framing your opponent.

[Swamp Rat]

30. D U M B

How did this anus weed become a rep? :banghead:

[tk2kewl]

31. .