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Up2Late Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:46 PM
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Prosecutor: No Criminality In Schiavo Collapse;(Jeb)Bush Ends Inquiry (AP)

Prosecutor: No Criminality In Schiavo Collapse; Bush Ends Inquiry


POSTED: 6:22 pm EDT July 7, 2005
UPDATED: 6:26 pm EDT July 7, 2005

TALLAHASSEE, Fla. -- There is no evidence that Terri Schiavo's collapse 15 years ago involved criminal activity, said a prosecutor asked by Gov. Jeb Bush to look into the case.

Bush, who asked State Attorney Bernie McCabe to further investigate Schiavo's case after her autopsy last month, responded Thursday by saying he considers the state's involvement with the matter finished. "Based on your conclusions, I will follow your recommendation that the inquiry by the state be closed," Bush said in a two-sentence letter.

In asking McCabe to look again into what put Schiavo in a persistent vegetative state, Bush had cited an alleged gap in time between when Schiavo's husband Michael found her and when he called 911 as something that remained unsettled.

McCabe said, however, that while such discrepancies may exist in the record, Michael Schiavo's statements that he called 911 immediately had been consistent.

<http://www.local6.com/news/4696689/detail.html >
(more at link above)
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:47 PM
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1. Good, now can we send Jeb a bill for the time wasted on this? nt
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:54 PM
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3. I sure hope the people of Florida do try to bill him personally for that!
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mcar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:45 AM
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46. My thoughts exactly
What an idiot Jeb is.
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Cassandra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:49 PM
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2. First sensible decision Jebbie has made in years...
and probably the last.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:55 PM
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5. Did he have a choice? I am sure if he felt he could have made points
by persuing it further, he would have.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:44 PM
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15. "decision"?
It was shoved down his throat.

Ain't nothin' to investigate, idiot!
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LynneSin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:58 AM
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50. I wouldn't quite call it a decision, more like "Ran out of options"
:shrug:
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Erika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:54 PM
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4. The pro-lifers tried to get every cent from this issue they could
They and Bush owe Terri's husband a big apology.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:56 PM
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6. So, that's it?
No apology for Micheal Shiavo or anything. All accusations groundless.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:58 PM
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7. Can Michael Schiavo sue? He should sue them all for every penny
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 06:58 PM by BrklynLiberal
they have...JEB, all the right-to-life organizations, every single individual who bad-mouthed him publicly.
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ordinaryaveragegirl Donating Member (853 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:05 PM
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8. If I were Mr. Schiavo...
I'd sue too. He did what was right, which was to work to free her from a body that she wasn't living in anymore. A lot more humane than what her own blood relatives or her government bothered to do.

What Jeb et al said account to slander. Just goes to show that shooting from the lips is a common trait in the Bush family.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:25 PM
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19. If Michael Schiavo could sue anyone, it should be...
Jeb and Quack Dr Frist for making this thing a national issue.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:08 PM
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9. There Was "involved criminal activity"; Jeb
His politicization should be an ethical violation.
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heidiho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:10 PM
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10. Anyone see the parents on Fox the other night with Fuhrman?
Mark Furhman (of the O.J. trial) has now written a book called "Silent Witness" or something like that.

He was on some Fox show (I think Hannity) the other night with the Schindlers basically saying that there was foul play, etc.

Made me sick . . .
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lumpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:25 PM
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11. Jeb is a s brainless as his boob
of a brother. Any one with an ounce of brain knows that prosecutors don't investigate personal opinions.
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DesEtoiles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:30 PM
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12. Maybe Jeb will now challenge Michael to a duel
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:39 AM
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47. based on YOUR conclusions--the Gubneer still focused on murder
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:31 PM
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13. Can we please....
Leave this poor poor women alone now?
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wakeme2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:57 PM
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16. As much as I would like to leave her alone,,
I am not sure Jebbie is done yet.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:03 PM
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17.  Yep I can just see it now
Jeb orders a state paid for seance (sp) to contact her from the dead. It is of course led by father vito sardouche.
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readermostly Donating Member (298 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:15 PM
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20. I would hope so. Terri needs to be able to rest in peace without
being a political football. Michael Schiavo needs to be able to go on without these threats over his head. I hope Mark Fuhrman's book (spurred on by Sean Hannity) sinks to the bargain books or out of the stores altogether quickly. Other than Fox News, I haven't seen the news organizations even covering it.
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:36 PM
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14. what a friggin' creep. torturous bushes...
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:24 PM
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18. what a jerk-off!!
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David Zephyr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:54 PM
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21. Notice how Jeb did this on the day of the terror attack?
What a sham.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:20 AM
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41. My first thought, too
Guaranteed to be hidden on page fifty of the paper, beside the debt notices. Timing is everything!!!!!
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:17 PM
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22. No Crime Found In Schiavo Collapse(Jeb says case closed)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/07/national/main...

(AP) Florida's state attorney said there was no evidence Terri Schiavo's collapse 15 years ago involved criminal activity, and Gov. Jeb Bush on Thursday declared an end to the state's inquiry.

Bush had asked State Attorney Bernie McCabe to investigate Schiavo's case after her autopsy last month. He said he now considers the state's involvement with the matter finished.

"Based on your conclusions, I will follow your recommendation that the inquiry by the state be closed," Bush said in a two-sentence letter.

~snip~


Jeb, was it worth it?

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Democrats_win Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:17 PM
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23. Its the same MO as whitewater. Its time to put the shit diggers in jail.
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:17 PM
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24. Gee, will his adoring followers let him off the hook now?
Maybe, but I'm sure they have some new projects for him!!!
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Miss Chybil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:17 PM
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25. I think Jeb did it.
When Mr. Schiavo called 911, Jeb was waiting for him. He re-routed the call to make sure the ambulance would be too late to help her and 15 years later, he could use her as a political prop.
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bagimin Donating Member (945 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:17 PM
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26. He's a quick learner......
Ole Jeb
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Isere Donating Member (920 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:17 PM
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27. Oh, I'm sure he will figure out something
to keep the pot boiling for a while. It's the gift that keeps on giving in Jebbie World.
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ovidsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:17 PM
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28. Not with a bang, but with a whimper.
As Jeb sinks slowly into the sunset.

I hope lovers of sanity, compassion and justice remember Jeb, and his role in transforming a tragic personal situation into a national circus, should that idiot EVER seek higher office.
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journalist3072 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:17 PM
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29. Where is the damn apology?
From all the bastard right-wingers who accused Michael Schiavo of abusing his wife, causing her injuries?
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devinsgram Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:17 PM
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30. Gee, who'd thunk that!!!!!!!!
Oh it was worth the extra publicity he got, I'm sure.
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hatrack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:17 PM
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31. Gee, Jeb. Milked it till it was dry, move on to the next Thumper martyr
Puke SOP.
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countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:17 PM
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32. Duh.
Now Jeb will have to think of something to rile his "dumber thant a stump" base. Perhaps Michael Schiavo had something to do with the London bombings and the hurricanes ...


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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:18 PM
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33. So when is the public apology to Michael Schiavo?
By Jeb Bush, Delay and Frist?
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grannylib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:33 PM
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35. Apologies?? From REPUBLICANS??? Are you MAD?? They do no
wrong! They are God's Own People and they are Holier Than Anyone Even Jesus (not having a clue about His life and ministry) and what would they apologize for?? I am sure that in their eyes the prosecutor is some treasonous RICO who dared to defy the Naked Chimperor's bro', so thus is not worthy of being called human.
:sarcasm:

Honestly, given the lack of outrage from the "Christian, Family Values" crowd over Cheney the Dick's use of the F-bomb on the floor of the Senate, it's pretty clear that the "War on Terra" is really a War on Truth, and the REAL obscene four-letter f-word is FACT.
Facts are terrifying to Rethugs, because facts contradict their sorry little ideology.
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DanCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 11:39 PM
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36. More proof that the repubs are not christians
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 11:41 PM by DanCa
Forgiveness is the hallmark of christianity is it not. Man if i had a realative in the nursing home the when that poor schiavo women was there, and that scum sucker hannity and all that commotion was going on, I wouldnt know what to do. Those pro life people dont know the meaning of the word.
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zara Donating Member (470 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:21 PM
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34. Hey Maybe Jeb can sic the Florida tax agency on him?
too bad he's broke.
all of jeb's options seem done.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 11:43 PM
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37. NYT Story
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 12:41 AM by kskiska
Florida Closes Its Inquiry Into Collapse of Schiavo

(snip)

David Gibbs, a lawyer for Ms. Schiavo's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler, said the report appeared rushed. Mr. Gibbs noted that the Schindlers had not been interviewed by the state attorney's office. "We had thought they would meet with the family," he said.

Michael Schiavo's lawyer deferred comment pending a chance to review the report fully.

more
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/07/08/national/08schiavo.ht...
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trapper914 Donating Member (796 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:56 AM
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49. Jeez Lew-weeze!
"David Gibbs, a lawyer for Ms. Schiavo's parents, Robert and Mary Schindler, said the report appeared rushed. Mr. Gibbs noted that the Schindlers had not been interviewed by the state attorney's office. "We had thought they would meet with the family," he said."

Why would they meet with the family? The State Attorney would look at EVIDENCE...no need to get into the emotional ramblings of family members who were not there when Terri collapsed.
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blue northern Donating Member (190 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:05 AM
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38. Michael Shivo has been through hell and back multiple times over this
He should sue the a$$ off jeb and frist, then demand a public apology as a term of the lawsuit.
They slandered and libeled him repeatedly.
I know there are never any real winners in a drawn-out tragedy like this, but jeb and frist should be made to lose from this.
They need to pay big time for the callous slander they heaped on this unfortunate man - all in the hopes of making political hay from his family's tragic misfortune.





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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:24 AM
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39. Schiavo 1, Jeb 0
Actually, it should be Jeb -10929292909203103910
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:40 AM
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40. Death Knell for Fuhrman's Book
At this moment it's #220 on Amazon. Just days ago it was #30. With the autopsy results, and today's announcement, it's hopelessly irrelevant.
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Sgent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 04:40 AM
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42. Unfortunately
All the government actors, including Jeb, are immune from lawsuit most likely....

He could sue the parents however, and the "christian" organizations that accused him of all sorts of various illegalities.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 05:24 AM
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43. FACT
That is a horrible word for RWingers and Fundies.

I cringed every freakin' time I read or heard any of the fake Xtians spouting off about that body.
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bunkerbuster1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 06:55 AM
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44. I read this news today in the AJC
Tiny, tiny story, in the "news in brief" section, near the end of Section A.

So cap'n Ahab's finally given up, huh? Mustn't make too much of this, peeps, move along, nothing to see here...
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:08 PM
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56. Same here, tiny article on page 8A in the Detroit Free Press
The "liberal" Detroit newspaper.
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DeepModem Mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 08:41 AM
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45. kick
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jhain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 11:47 AM
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48. Come Monday
Good Ole Jeb will be handin' out that bottled water to more hurricane victims. All will be right in his world.

Have a feeling his big Brother will not help this time.
That hard work only happens during a campaign.
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 12:45 PM
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51. The American Tailiban


http://news.yahoo.com/photo/050622/photos_lf_afp/050622... ;_ylt=AnhnjvfHIl.EsX1D0dLfenpH2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTA3bGk2OHYzBHNlYwN0bXA-

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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 01:08 PM
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52. wow, what great news! I'm sure it's ALL OVER Foxnews
Edited on Fri Jul-08-05 01:13 PM by librechik
cuz they're like FAIR

and BALANCED

and only want the best for Terri and her family.

:rofl:
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 01:57 PM
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54. So, now that the state of Florida is out of the Schiavo business,
and there's little chance of another investigation, will Sean Hannity continue to have these people on spewing their hatred?
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 01:52 PM
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53. Here's the entire report from the State Attorney:
http://www.sptimes.com/2005/07/08/Tampabay/Result_of_th...

(snip)

Understandably, Michael Schiavo is not the only witness who has been inconsistent or had difficulty recalling the timing of events surrounding Terri's collapse and resuscitation. Shortly after finding Terri, Michael Schiavo called his in-laws and told them what happened. It is unclear whether he or the Schindlers called Bobby Schindler who lived in the same complex as Michael and Terri and who immediately went to their apartment and arrived before the paramedics. Although Terri's parents had been awakened in the middle of the night with extremely disturbing news and waited at their house for a subsequent phone call on their daughters condition, they have no clear idea what time they were called by Michael. They had previously provided our office a timeline indicating that they were called as early as 3-4 a.m. but recently told Thogmartin they could not recall the time. Similarly, Terri's brother, Bobby Schindler, told Dr. Thogmartin he could not remember the time that he was called or initially arrived at the Schiavo residence except in relation to the arrival of the paramedics.

(snip)

The most obvious explanation is also the most logical: under the extremely stressful circumstances his attention to and memory of the exact time were faulty - in the same way that the recollections of Mr. and Mrs. Schindler and Bobby are flawed.

(snip)

Family members and others who disagreed with Mr. Schiavo's decision to seek court approval to have his wife's feeding tube removed have made repeated attacks on his credibility and accused him of mistreatment of his wife. At least some of these accusations have been shown to be baseless by the autopsy conclusions. We should note, however, that we have also received unsolicited comments praising his honesty, sincerity and devotion to his wife's care. Also, when asked about her son-in-law during the 1992 malpractice trial, Mary Schindler testified, "He's there every day. She (Terri) does not want for anything. He is loving, caring. I don't know of any young boy that would be as attentive. He is ... he's just unbelievable, and I know without him there is no way I would have survived this."

(snip)

We strongly recommend that the inquiry be closed and no further action be taken.
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anotherdrew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:04 PM
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55. Bernie McCabe is gonna be looking for new work soon
he's failed lord bush
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SlavesandBulldozers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:23 PM
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57. hmmm who's memory will Bush piss on next?
stay tuned!
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lolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-05 02:32 PM
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58. Who'da Thunk It?
Next they'll be telling us that Hillary Clinton didn't really kill Vince Foster . . .
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