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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:36 AM
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Iraqi police open fire on 1,000 demonstrators
http://www.breakingnews.ie/2005/07/07/story210507.html

"Police opened fire on 1,000 demonstrators today at the seat of the provincial government in Saddam Husseins hometown who were protesting the killing of the local councils head official, authorities said. At least four were wounded.
~snip~
He was fighting the corruption in the city council and thats why they assassinated him, Ali said during the demonstration."
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:40 AM
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1. Freedom is on the March....eom
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CrazyForKucinich Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:42 AM
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2. How is this not a civil war?
Between the government and the Iraqi people?
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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:52 AM
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4. because the government was illegally installed under occupation
it is not legally the government of Iraq if my (poor) understanding of international law is correct.
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Teaser Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:07 AM
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6. It's a factional civil war.
nt
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 06:45 AM
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3. I can't wait until all 160,000 of them are "trained"....
:eyes: there's no telling how much "freedom" will be marching around Iraq when (if) the Iraqi army is all trained in American "crowd control" tactics.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:03 AM
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5. Photo... These poor people...


Iraqis run from a demonstration where police opened fire on 1,000 marchers Thursday, July 7, 2005, in Tikrit, Iraq. At least four were wounded during the march to demand the resignation of the deputy governor and police chief because they believe their clan was responsible for Wednesday's killing of Ali Ghalib Ibrahim, the local council's head official, authorities said. (AP Photo/Bassim Daham)
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:50 AM
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16. But, but, but... Iraqis are better off now than they were...
And we sure are safer now than we were...

:banghead: :grr: :mad:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 07:08 AM
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7. So much dying
:(
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justinsb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:01 AM
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8. Al Jazeera: Police fire on protest in Iraqi town
Police fire on protest in Iraqi town

Iraqi police have opened fire on 1000 demonstrators in Tikrit as they were protesting the killing of the local council's head official, authorities said.

At least four people, including a police officer, were wounded on Thursday.

The protesters demanded the resignation of the deputy governor and police chief because they think their clan was responsible for Wednesday's killing of Ali Ghalib Ibrahim, who belongs to a rival clan, Mayor Wael Ibrahim Ali said.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/0C6C83FD-45C1-48...
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:08 AM
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9. and we got rid of Saddam because?????
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bushisanidiot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:25 AM
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10. AWOL Bush's version of "democracy" doesn't allow dissent
and CERTAINLY not protests..

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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:43 AM
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13. He is a THUG AND A HOODLUM
If you DISAGREE WITH HIM---

HE WILL HAVE YOU KILLED.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:36 AM
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11. With events in London, no one will be hearing about this story.
:(
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:41 AM
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12. This is EXACTLY the problem we ran into in Vietnam. The insurgents
Edited on Thu Jul-07-05 08:46 AM by mistertrickster
(Communists, bandits, VC, terrorists, whatever) are fueled by ideology. The puppet gov't is motivated by easy money. Since the US has no "exit strategy," they construct their own in numbered bank accounts in Lichtenstein.

Think about it . . . isn't that what you or I would do under the circumstances? Be prepared to bail at any moment.

We've got the money and money equals corruption. They have no money and are winning the hearts and minds of the locals by their sacrifice to the cause.

How many Iraqis are willing to be suicide bombers to STOP THE TERRORISTS? There's the problem: puppet gov't officials who are feathering their own nests before everything goes to hell vs. insurgents who have absolutely nothing to lose and who believe completely in what they are doing.

Look at the history of insurgencies--

The first red revolution against Czar Nicholas in Russia.

Maoists against the Guo-min-dong (Nationalists) in China. Chang Kai-Shek had the full backing of the American gov't and got routed by a peasant army.

Algierians against the French.

The Irish against the English.

Iranians against the Shah.

Zionists against the British in Palestine.

Castro's Cuba against a US-backed Batista (the Platt Amendment gave the US the right to intervene militarily in Cuba--we occupied the country for 3 years).

Vietnamese against the French and the US.

These object lessons don't bode well for our side.

ON EDIT--I forgot about Afghanistan against the British (180,000 occupying troops were killed almost to the last man).

Iraq against the British. During their twenty or so year occupation, they were constantly harassed by insurgents, and eventually cut and ran.







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Monkie Donating Member (675 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 08:51 AM
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14. Fighting for your freedom or for dollars,there is a lesson there sure
people will fight the invaders and oppressors regardless of religion, colour, ideology.
Its human nature.
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Tsiyu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 09:16 AM
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15. That blood once again is on *'s hands
What an evil time we live in. Opening fire on your own protesting citizens and calling it "freedom" just breaks my heart once again.

Our nation ( and now Iraq) is run by bloodthirsty despots. My heart goes out to the Iraqis. 1000 more now REALLY hate us.

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RedCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:16 AM
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17. What billions of our dollars brings us!
They have been saved!


Just like the USA and its killing spree against organized labor for more than one century...
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-05 10:26 AM
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18. Who was it that said "Political power grows out of the barrel of a gun?"
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