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Emboldened Chimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:10 PM
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Gubernatorial Candidate Roughed up At Arnold Rally
Gubernatorial candidate Georgy Russell was pushed, shoved, hit and kicked yesterday by supporters of Arnold Schwarzenegger at a rally in Pleasanton CA. She was repeatedly called a "bitch" and one of the Arnold Supporters wrote on her clothing with a permanent marking pen. The felonious abusers, who claimed to be provoked by remarks from Russell, were near equal numbers of men and women and no one during the incident came to Russell's aid. Schwarzeneggar and his wife Maria Shriver witnessed the attack and neither said or did anything to stop the abuse.

(snip)

More on the jack-booted thugs here...

http://www.georgyforgov.com/press14.php
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benfranklin1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:16 PM
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1. Oh how charming. (sarcasm)
Looks like some of the Gropinator's supporters admire Hitler as well, specifically some of the tactics of the S/A.
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section321 Donating Member (632 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:46 PM
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17. Maybe I should join the Gropinator....
I think I would look swell in a brown shirt and jack boots. Plus it would be really cool to be able to grope like him.



</sarcasm>
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:17 PM
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2. That is scary
Is this democracy? Is this the type of response we will see more of in the future?

This is democracy mafia style.

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benfranklin1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:23 PM
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10. Yep. Government of the thugs by the thugs and for the thugs.
Which is why stopping this slide into brown shirt chic at the ballot box today is vital.
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shamanstar Donating Member (326 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:34 PM
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14. yea and they will let it happen
and the more these idiots see other people doing it, the more acceptable it will become. i was seriously fearing a driveby while protesting the war. these people have beliefs that they dont even think about. they dont think AT ALL. they are scary people.
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schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:39 PM
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40. I think its mafia or nazi style conformism....everyone must heil
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:18 PM
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3. It's 1933 and Shickelgroper is in charge now
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SaintLouisBlues Donating Member (755 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:55 PM
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34. Shickelgroper! It Is To Laugh
n/t
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:19 PM
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4. Goddammit, these are things that happen in Banana Republic countries,
not in the USA. What in the hell are the republicans doing to our country?

This reminds me of the attorney in 11-00 who was pushed around and knocked down the stairs by a Bush supporter because they said he put a voting card in his pocket. Turns out it was a SAMPLE card.
I wonder how many of the Arnold supporters are paid plants? Remember in the Selection of 2000, Cia and paid protesters were brought in to "rally" for Chimpy.

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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:46 PM
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32. Sadly, these are exactly the things that happen in the USA
Look at the 1968 Democratic convention, when Mayor Daley had the cops bust Gene McCarthy's campaign headquarters, for example. This country has a LONG way to go in fulfilling the ideals of democratic free speech and equal representation.
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LoneStarLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:19 PM
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5. Writing?
I mean, come on...we know Schwarznegger supporters can't write!

Georgy rocks!
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ElementaryPenguin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:19 PM
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6. Were the Tom Delay Dade County Brownshirts there in full force??
Holy shit!! No wonder Ah-nulled's a Repuke. Sounds as if he really IS a Nazi sympathizer!
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Jeff in Cincinnati Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:20 PM
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7. She's Impressive
I hope she sticks around in California politics (not that I could vote for her here in Ohio).
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treefrogjohn Donating Member (268 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:22 PM
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8. Reminds me of when I went to an Agnew rally with a McGovern sign
The sweet prim and proper ladies with the white hats and white gloves (well it was what Republican women wore back then) took their Agnew signs and started hitting me with them. Amazing how contorted those sweet faces can get!
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GAspnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:22 PM
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9. words fail me
which may be the point by now. Violence begets violence.
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:27 PM
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49. These must be typical
Ah-nuld voters. Hysterical and violent.
:eyes: :mad: :mad: :grr: :grr:
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LifeDuringWartime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:27 PM
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11. ?
..... :wtf:
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:00 PM
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19. I don't know either
But this may be a taste of what we'll be up against next year.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:27 PM
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12. grrrrrrrrrrrr
:mad:
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:32 PM
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13. Tom DeLay must be in California
giving his support to Arnold.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:37 PM
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15. sounds like a dramatic re-enactment of the beer hall putsch
I think both Maria and Arnold have fallen into their Adolf and
Eva roles MUCH too easily for my comfort. What a couple of
losers they both are. If I were Eunice Shriver I would hit her
(and him) with a two by four.
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ignatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:42 PM
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16. Are you kidding, Eunice has been campaigning with them
and she is in support of the gropinator.

Bobby and John must be rolling over in their graves. I figure Eunice must be getting senile.
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LiberalFighter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:08 PM
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47. She didn't look like she was all there
nt
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trigz Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 03:58 PM
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18. That's unreal!
Political violence against an opponent, without anyone, including Arnuuuuld bothering to help or condone it. It's Mussolini all over again. Methinks it's time to stand up and take the fight, friends. The rest of the world is by your side!
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DS1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:04 PM
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20. there's an unbiased news source
.
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tlcandie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:58 PM
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35. The e-mail from the onlooker attending the rally was biased as well?
:shrug:
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:04 PM
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21. It's Springtime for Hitler and U.S.A.
A Nazi by any other name, is still a Nazi. :mad:
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Terran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:04 PM
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22. Wow, I think we would have loved her for Governor!
Quote from Georgy Russell regarding the incident, from her website:

"Some of Arnold's supporters apparently do not hesitate when it comes to using violence to accomplish their goals. It's not surprising that they support and defend a candidate who has manifested poor judgment and aggressive behavior most of his adult life. The behavior exhibited by Arnold's supporters is not simply an aberration, it is an MO that has it's roots at the top; it is reminiscent of the behavior of the thugs that were bussed in by Republicans during the Florida recount to perform much the same role as the bullies of yesterday and while that is no surprise to me I am nonetheless sickened by it all. This bully mentality was exhibited by Arnold in the debate in his rude treatment of Arianna Huffington and that the press offered little to no criticism of his behavior opened the door wide and gave a green light to his supporters to follow suit."

Impressive, I think.
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NewYorkerfromMass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:05 PM
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23. Wow! Poor kid...(and FUCK YOU ARNOLD)
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_NorCal_D_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:33 PM
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51. Wow, she's pretty cute!
Does she go to UC Berkeley? I haven't seen her before.
:loveya:
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:06 PM
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24. Didn't his supporters
rough up some nuns the other day?

These people genuinely frighten me. I definitely think we will see more of it. Our society is provoking and creating it and the media is condoning it. The fact that Savage or Rush could even land national spots with their vitriol speaks volumes.
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Democat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:10 PM
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25. If nuns were roughed up at a Democratic rally, imagine the national media
It would be on the cover of every paper.

Arnold could rape a baby and it wouldn't be reported.
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benfranklin1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:17 PM
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26. Yes it is the mainstreaming of hate.
An effort to make brown shirted thuggishness such as this socially acceptable to stifle political opposition.
This is why the Fairness Doctine must be reinstated. It was instrumental in providing an antidote to the bile of Father Coughlin and can be instrumental in providing an antidote to the Limbaughs and the Scarboroughs of today.
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dbt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:26 PM
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28. Indeed. If this is true, it is part of the Limbaugh Legacy
For fifteen years, Rush and his ilk have been allowed to spread their message of HATE unrestricted and without balance (OR fairness). It has so permeated the national consciousness that it's now OK to literally beat up on Libruls (or anyone who's not a knuckle-dragging ConservoBot).

Way to go, Murka!!!!

:argh:
dbt
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benfranklin1776 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:36 PM
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30. Yep when only one side gets to present its warped view
Edited on Tue Oct-07-03 04:38 PM by benfranklin1776
that its view, however wrong it is, becomes much more widely accepted Its not the majority view
of course since its so extreme, witness the last Presidential election when despite biased coverage Gore still won the popular vote and Florida if the count was allowed to proceed, but it radicalizes the "true blue movement believers" since they find reinforcement for their extreme hateful views and believe that its OK to use whatever means necesssary to silence the opposition. Remember their credo is drawn from that of Goldwater who seems tame by today's standard: "Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice." So if you think that you are defending the nation from the" godless libruls" then anything goes in this way of thinking. A balance of viewpoints would do wonders towards allowing the antidote of truth to counteract their steady venom of hate that is poisoning the body politic.
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revree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:21 PM
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27. FILE CRIMINAL CHARGES
That is the only way we can stop this bastard from beating the shit out of every dissenter.
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schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:43 PM
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41. And sue them too....take some money
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:34 PM
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29. Whiskey. Tango. Foxtrot.
That's just....SO not right.

I really hope someone ties the origin for this behavior to Arnold, or at least one of his cronies. People don't just go out and act like this randomly over politics, for crying out loud. Sports, yes. Not politics.
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LoneStarLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:48 PM
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33. Charlie. Foxtrot.
Charlie. Foxtrot.

Situation normal.
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private_ryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 04:38 PM
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31. they're just imitating their hero, Arnold
he roughs up women and has bodyguards to protect himself from guys.
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i have issues Donating Member (451 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:00 PM
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36. I just called the newsroom
At KPFK... (Pacifica radio)90.7 and told them about this story. They seemed very interested in my suggestion of getting an interview with Ms. Russel....Hope it happens... off to suggest the same with local tv whore media. :bounce:
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:11 PM
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37. (London) Times: The fascist spectre that stands behind Arnie
see this post in the Editorials forum

<snip>

IF a politician campaigns on the theme of trust me, there is only one correct answer, and that is not on your life. Tony Blair has entered the inter-governmental conference on the European constitution saying trust me. A more immediate issue is that Arnold Schwarzenegger is asking the people of California to trust him in tomorrows vote. They would be foolish to do so.

<snip>

What worries me is that Arnold Schwarzenegger is relying on the appeal of fascism, whether or not he is personally a fascist. He does not run on experience. He has been a politician for only eight weeks. He does not run on policy. He relies on catch phrases and on empty generalisation. He does not debate the issues. He has taken part in only one debate, and then relied on frequent references to his old films, which do not deal with economic policy issues. His campaign exists outside rationality, in the world of celebrity and sensation. The politics of mass emotion are the politics of fascism.

The core of all fascist movements is the direct relationship between the leader and the masses, not mediated through the institutions of democracy. What does the leader do? He provides leadership. What allows him to provide leadership? The strength of his will. What is the evidence of the leaders will? The exciting feeling he creates of ultimate ruthlessness. How does Arnold Schwarzenegger demonstrate this ruthlessness? By having played a machine not even a man which killed hundreds of people.

Gray Davis has not been a good governor. One can understand that the people of California want to get rid of him. But, though he may be a ghastly hack, he was democratically elected after a process of public debate, and Democrat majorities in both Houses of the California Congress were elected alongside him. This is now a straight conflict between the democratic principle and the Fhrer Prinzip (leadership principle), the issue of 1933.


(The London Times is subscription only, unfortunately)

sw
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:56 PM
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45. Wow, is this ever frightening...
Thanks for posting...

:kick:
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skyfox Donating Member (7 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:13 PM
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38. I have no respect for Arnold
McClintok is a honorable man who sticks to his principles.
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schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 05:37 PM
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39. Here come the brown shirts. Arnould looks like a big white ape
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foreigncorrespondent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:16 PM
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42. Well if the "lovely" couple...
...witnessed the attack and chose to do nothing, then both should be bloody well charged with accessory for the crime commited against that poor woman.

And to think it is the fucking right that those bloody xian fundies support. Nice to know that people supposed to be representing God on earth and not just for spreading hatred but also violence.

Unbloodybelievable!
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damnraddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:31 PM
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43. Don't expect good treatment from fascists.
I wonder when Arnold will hold his 'crystal night,' and who will be the target.
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JackSwift Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:38 PM
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44. Why the surprise that he did nothing
he is a leader. A nazi leader it turns out.
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 06:58 PM
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46. This outrageous. Criminal charges should be pressed.
Seriously. Makes me sick.

:kick:
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MetaTrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:13 PM
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48. The Reich has returned
Bush's stiff-armed salute was only a hint for those who know...now that America's most liberal state has a governor who somehow managed to come up with Adolf Hitler as his primary role model, all those emigres who have waited out the decades since Project Paperclip now know their dreams are becoming reality again.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 07:29 PM
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50. You Know What?
These people DESERVE to have the Gropinator for their Gov.
BRING HIM ON!

I am so ashamed to be a Californian at this moment.
These type of hate mongers are everywhere in Los Angeles now.
They drive the freeways, they fill the markets and
movie malls- they are disgusting. "I, ME, MINE, and SCREW you" types.
The Hitler wanna-be is the PERRRFECT brown shirt to lead them.

Time to move, time to move.
BHN

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Zhade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 08:43 PM
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52. I hear that, man.
I'm appalled by the fascists in this state.

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bleedingheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-07-03 08:52 PM
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53. Unfortunately for the nation CA isn't the only state with the
"I, ME, MINE, and SCREW you" crowd...

There are a lot of em here in PA...just look at our stupid senator Santorectum..

Wishing you guys the best in your recall!..bleedingheart...
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