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maddezmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:18 PM
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Cheney Deflects Calls to Close Gitmo
WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney said Sunday there are no plans for now to shutter the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay where terrorism suspects are held.

"The important thing here to understand is that the people that are at Guantanamo are bad people," he said.

"I mean, these are terrorists for the most part. These are people that were captured in the battlefield of Afghanistan or rounded up as part of the al-Qaida network," he said in an interview to be aired Monday on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes."

Human rights activists and some lawmakers mostly Democrats are pressing for the prison's closure because of allegations of torture and abuse of detainees. President Bush has said his administration is "exploring all alternatives" for detaining the prisoners.

~snip~
more: http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050612/ap...
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:20 PM
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1. So, was he in a disclosed location at the time? nt
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jmaier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:22 PM
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2. Fine
Then it shouldn't be out of the question to produce public hearings and follow the Geneva convention. If we're sure that we've got bad guys, what's the fear in proving it?
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:29 PM
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7. Exactly...and the followup is
what rights do even the baddest of "bad" people have, Mr. Cheney?
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jeff30997 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:23 PM
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3. "the people that are at Guantanamo are bad people"
If he's talking about the guards then he's telling the truth for once.
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Gays_R_Family Donating Member (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:24 PM
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4. "for the most part" ...
Interesting spin. Vaguely admits that they aren't all terrorists.

One wonders why the qualifier. Why not just call them terrorists?

Methinks it is a way for Cheney to rationalize himself as not really being a liar while he misleads the public.
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:24 PM
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6. A man with no conscience doesnt need to rationalize his behavior. nt
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 03:14 PM
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9. And don't most battlefields include civilians (n/t)
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LiberalVoice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:24 PM
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5. " rounded up as part of the al-Qaida network"
Rounded up by war lords who got paid by the head with American tax payer money.
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davelyoung1 Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 02:34 PM
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8. Republican International Law
Republican Presidential (Bush) law had changed the legal times, for the executive branch had taken over the judicial branch. It has also started making its own interpretations of International Law, which other countries will soon follow by our example. Treaties and International Law made weak, null and void, for convenience, all over the world by American example. American soldiers in civilian clothes or nonmilitary Americans could be imprisoned, without legal council or representation for year after year without legal representation or trail, declared terrorists. The Geneva Convention treaty dissolved from protecting civilians from any form of mistreatment or imprisonment. Can you image no international court system to protect civilians? Treating civilians by using the American example of imprisonment, we have given the world. Can this be fair to United States citizens who travel overseas for pleasure? No, but our diversity, culture, and religious values must set the standard for the rest of the world. To regain the ground lost by impulsive politicians threatening the future of international relations.
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:49 AM
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27. exellent post, and welcome to DU!
:toast:
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u2spirit Donating Member (727 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 06:32 PM
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10. Cheney Deflects Calls to Close Gitmo
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=514&e=4&u=/ap...

WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney said Sunday there are no plans for now to shutter the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay where terrorism suspects are held.



"The important thing here to understand is that the people that are at Guantanamo are bad people," he said.

"I mean, these are terrorists for the most part."

snip

Note- Ok Dick, I guess I'll take your word for it, seeing you're so honest and all!
:eyes:
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tiredofthisstuff Donating Member (87 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 06:32 PM
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11. For The Most Part!!!!!!!!!
He just admitted that not all people being held are terrorist. So shouldn't we fucking let them free. How much longer will American be willfully ignorant and allow this shit to go on.
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meppie-meppie not Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 06:32 PM
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12. I need to adopt a hit man.
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 06:32 PM
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13. Then how come only 39 people have been convicted of terrorism
or national security charges?
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 06:32 PM
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14. Dick has a 'know it all complex'
And Bush is always right. Great pair.
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 06:32 PM
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15. Honesty for sure coupled with openness
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teryang Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 06:32 PM
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16. The tortures described in this article
...are standard, not exceptions.
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Catchawave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 06:46 PM
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17. Darth Cheney's had a busy news day....
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quaoar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:28 PM
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18. Cheney: No plans to shut Guantanamo jail
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2... /

WASHINGTON --Vice President Dick Cheney, reacting to a growing chorus of calls to close the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay where terrorism suspects are held, says there are no present plans to do so. "The important thing here to understand is that the people that are at Guantanamo are bad people," he said.

"I mean, these are terrorists for the most part. These are people that were captured in the battlefield of Afghanistan or rounded up as part of the al-Qaida network," he said in an interview to be aired Monday on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes."

< snip >

Sen. Mel Martinez of Florida on Friday became the first high-profile Republican to say the administration should consider closing the prison.

"It's become an icon for bad stories and at some point you wonder the cost-benefit ratio," Martinez said. "How much do you get out of having that facility there? Is it serving all the purposes you thought it would serve when initially you began it, or can this be done some other way a little better?"
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:28 PM
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19. May he, one day, find himself in it--or one just like it, anyway.
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swag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:28 PM
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20. I miss Spiro Agnew.
At least his pathological lying was mostly about small-time graft.
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lcbart Donating Member (93 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 07:50 PM
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21. Terrorists for the most part ?
If they aren't terrorists why the hell are they there ?
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-12-05 11:35 PM
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22. Cheney says no plans for now to close Guantanamo prison
<<SNIP>>
http://onlineathens.com/stories/061305/new_20050613007....

Cheney says no plans for now to close Guantanamo prison
540 held in prison in Cuba



By Siobhan McDonough
Associated Press

WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney, reacting to a growing chorus of calls to close the U.S. prison at Guantanamo Bay where terrorism suspects are held, says there are no present plans to do so.

"The important thing here to understand is that the people that are at Guantanamo are bad people," he said.

"I mean, these are terrorists for the most part. These are people that were captured in the battlefield of Afghanistan or rounded up as part of the al-Qaida network," he said in an interview to be aired today on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes."

Human rights activists and some lawmakers - mostly Democrats - are pressing for the prison's closure because of allegations of torture and abuse of detainees.

<</SNIP>>
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SHRED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:50 AM
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23. Cheney says US prison in Cuba will stay open
Cheney says US prison in Cuba will stay open

WASHINGTON, June 13 (SANA): US Vice President Dick Cheney has said there are no plans for now to close the US prison at Guantanamo Bay, where terrorism suspects are held.

"The important thing here to understand is that the people that are at Guantanamo are bad people," he said in an interview to be aired on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes."

More>>>>
http://www.kashar.net/technews/complete.asp?id=1396

_____________________________

"Bad people"? No trial and Cheney just somehow knows? Fucking fascist.
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BeyondThePale Donating Member (895 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:50 AM
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24. Is he referring to the detainees or the guards? (eom)
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 08:50 AM
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25. Well then we can put you and your hand puppet there when you are convicted
of treason.
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tuvor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-13-05 10:38 AM
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26. Cheney: No Plans to Shut Guantanamo Prison
By SIOBHAN McDONOUGH, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON - Suspected terrorists will continue to be held in the U.S. military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, Vice President
Dick Cheney says, amid concerns by some fellow Republicans that the situation may be counterproductive.

"The important thing here to understand is that the people that are at Guantanamo are bad people," Cheney said in an interview airing Monday night on Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes" program.

"I mean, these are terrorists for the most part. These are people that were captured in the battlefield of
Afghanistan or rounded up as part of the al-Qaida network."

The White House, meanwhile, said Monday that all options remain open about Guantanamo Bay's future.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050613/ap_on_go_pr_wh/us_g... ;_ylt=Ag2ICuY8raY9Fa0Vm8orOwWyFz4D;_ylu=X3oDMTBiMW04NW9mBHNlYwMlJVRPUCUl
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