Terrorist: bin Laden to set up caliphate state

[ECH1969]

An alleged terrorist on trial for a conspiracy targeting the U.S. and Israeli embassies claimed Monday that terror masterminds Osama bin Laden and Abu Musab al-Zarqawi would soon set up a Muslim caliphate state.

Abed al-Tahawi's made the statement in brief remarks to reporters before the military court convened to hear the prosecution sum up its case in his trial.

"Although they accuse them of being terrorists, the heroes Osama bin Laden and Abu Musab Zarqawi will come back to the scene soon to set up an Islamic caliphate state," he said.

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It seems terrorists do use drugs.

[mikehiggins]

1. Why is this funny?

Once Iraq goes, the rest of the dominoes will fall right in order.

Only it won't be American "democracy" that rises from the ashes.

Just my opinion.

[ECH1969]

4. I can't see it happening

Neither the Kurds, the Shia, or the Sunnis in Iraq want to be governed by any foreigner be they Bush, Bin Laden, or Zarqawi. I can see a long term war happening in Iraq, but I can't see any foreign power winning in the long run.

[Maple]

5. He didn't say anything about

it being Iraq.

[ECH1969]

6. Yes, I re-read it and you are right about that

[bennywhale]

11. . This is the justification used

to murder over a million people in Vietnam, and conspiring to murder hundreds of thousands in central America. The domino theory

It has been trotted out at various intervals to interfere in other states and murder citizens of those states

This is exactly what they will be saying soon if any state does swing towards a caliphate. We will be declaring war everywhere.

[ck4829]

2. Sounds just like what the 'christian' Right wants to do to America

[wookie294]

3. Osama is already King of certain parts of Pakistan

and Afghanistan.

[carnie_sf]

7. I've been thinking

about the Heinlein book Revolt In 2100 lately, and wondering if he were even more prescient than we thought.

[peacetalksforall]

8. Bizarre or not? So everything is moved to the new caliphate

state to make it easier for them to bomb or is it going to be a state in the air?

When we should have gone after the 9-11 terrorists (if they actually existed) for a crime...we declared a war against an un-bordered group of people who had no 'constitution' and were without uniforms or identities. We said we were at war with the Taliban, bin Laden, and the deck of card faces. That was how the right wing declared their war, which was really against Saddam - all for the purpose of taking the Middle East countries one by one.

It is all dis-reality and nothing can be believed. They have won. But there are still way too many people who see through BS, some in the U.S. and nearly everyone in the rest of the world.

Why don't some of those countries try to be peacemakers? Ever wondered about that? 'How're they doing?'

[Roland99]

9. And just where is he going to set this up?

[Frederik]

10. "alleged terrorist"

"Al-Tahawi, 50, and 15 other men including one at large who being tried in absentia are charged with conspiring to carry out terrorist attacks and possessing automatic rifles."

The attacks never actually happened though.

[jobycom]

12. That's the golden era of the Muslim age, like the Roman Empire

for Russia and Germany in the 19th and early 20th century, and the Shah in Iran during the mid 20th. It's what they'll look back to for their "thousand year" rule.

Bin Laden will never unite all the factions of the Middle East, but if he takes a country or two, or even controls a strong faction in a country or two, that could be enough to cause a lot of trouble. Keep in mind how unstable Pakistan is, how strong his support is amongst the Pashtu and the other tribes close to Afghanistan, and the fact that Pakistan has nukes. Keep in mind how stretched our military is. A full civil war in Iraq would drain our troops and resources even further, and could inspire uprisings in Afghanistan and Pakistan, especially with coordination. What then happens in Syria? Or Saudi Arabia--a revolution just waiting to happen?

Bush has done EVERYTHING exactly as Bin Laden wanted. Bush has strengthened Bin Laden's recruiting and financing, he has made Bin Laden the leader of the anti-American resistance in the Middle East and Muslim world, and he has proven that America does not really care about the freedom of the Middle East so much as about controlling the Middle East. Bush has created unemployment in Iraq so that large numbers of people have nothing to do but wonder how to rid the nation of Americans. Bush has turned us against our allies, so that not only will no one help us, but most of them can't wait to see us fall. The world no longer needs us, because we are no longer a force for good.

Once the uprisings start, Pakistan can fall, and if it falls to Bin Laden, then Al-Qeada has nukes. Contrary to American opinion, unfortunately, he's not insane. He's coldly calculating and bloodthirsty. He knows how to use those nukes to kill, and then to blackmail the world into cowing to him--exactly as America has done sine Hiroshima. Then what do we do? What do we do when they stop selling to us, when the world calls in our loans, when EVERYONE turns on us and forces US to follow their irrational rules? When we become the dancing bear instead of the master.

[Terran1212]

13. I doubt that is part of their plans...

Many of their supporters are secular, and are more combatative to US policy than sympathetic to religious fervor.

[Eugene]

14. Al-Tahawi's statement is "we will prevail" bravado.

A pan-Islamic caliphate has always been
Bin Laden's goal. But he is in no position to
make it happen anytime soon.