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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 04:12 PM
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Abu Ghraib Spc.: Abuse 'Awful' (Letter Oct 20, 2003)
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/05/16/national/main695620.shtml

A letter from Spc. Sabrina Harman to her roommate in Virginia suggested that the Army reservist took pictures of detainee abuse at Abu Ghraib prison because she was opposed to the treatment and wanted to document the wrongdoing.

"At first I thought it was funny, but these people are going too far," Harman wrote to Kelly Bryant in the Oct. 20, 2003, letter, which was introduced in court during defense arguments at her trial Monday.

"Kelly, it's awful," it continued. "I thought I could handle anything, but I was wrong."

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Harman said in the letter that her initial amusement at how the detainees were mistreated gave way to the realization that her co-defendants were engaged in illegal actions.

"It hit me it was a form of molestation — you can't do that," she wrote.
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rzemanfl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 04:41 PM
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1. Is Kelly a he or a she? They say Kelly is her "lover" and
roomate. Unless he/she kept the postmarked envelope there is going to be a claim that the letter was manufactured later. Hopefully there is corroboration for the letter.
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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 04:45 PM
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2. The soldier who handed pictures over to authorities was at
JFK Museum today to receive the Profiles in Courage Award. Oh. He and his wife live under protective custody due to threats on his life. Welcome to America, brave soldier! I'm sorry I can't post his name. I missed it during the news. Any help?
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ROH Donating Member (521 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:19 PM
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3. Spc. Joseph Darby
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:43 PM
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4. And the "abuse" is even more awful
When you call it "torture." Though I have to say I'm glad that at least a few of our military personnel didn't quite check their souls at the door when they entered Iraq. Now, if we could just get the slowcoaches in the media to connect A to B and figure out that torture is the administration-approved detainee regimen.

This is not the United States I was taught about back in school many years ago. This is a lot more like the old Soviet Union and horrible stories of the gulag archipelago.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 05:52 PM
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5. "At first I thought it was funny, but these people are going too far"
Edited on Mon May-16-05 05:53 PM by Solly Mack
So tell me, Sabrina Harman

Which of these are funny and which of these are going too far?


This one?




Or this one?




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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 06:17 PM
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6. Are you sure she didn't watch too many...
Edited on Mon May-16-05 06:20 PM by Amonester
Sesame Street episodes?

What happened to the Geneva Convention?

Has she even ever heard about it?

:grr:


:cry:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 06:23 PM
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7. She'll tell you she didn't know about the Geneva Convention
but I would say she did.
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 07:02 PM
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8. Or perhaps her Commander-in-Chief
kind of told her "never mind the convention, it's only good for 'em, losers, not for our Hainess Emperor, King George..."

And perhaps he might also have added (after her being subponaed), kind of like "ya better not tell the lu-b-rul jounalists what I told ya 'bout the damn convention, and finish your days inside or I promise ya ya won't see the light 'n day for very long..." (Or maybe not, but we have our doubts.)


What have they done to the country?
Will the world now ever forgive?


Only if:

AMERICAN REVOLUTION 'O5
http://www.dougwallace.com


????????
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-16-05 07:06 PM
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9. Oh, her chain of command is definitely guilty
all the way up to Shrub
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