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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 08:39 AM
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$5.7 million federal cut to end adult education for thousands
Sunday, May 8, 2005 - Page updated at 12:00 a.m.




$5.7 million federal cut to end adult education for thousands

By Sharon Pian Chan

Seattle Times staff reporter

Community colleges in Washington state could be forced to turn away thousands of adult-education students starting next year now that Congress has voted to slash education funding.

Although community colleges are still waiting for the final numbers, the state estimates that as many as 45,000 adults could be turned away from at least some classes in the state starting in July 2006.

At the end of April, the House and Senate voted to cut the total education budget by $5.5 billion, as recommended in President Bush's budget proposal for 2006.

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http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2002267363_adulted08m.html
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dArKeR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 08:46 AM
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1. I loved these courses and have been taking them since the late 70s
Not only is it education it's bringing the community together. As we aren't alienated enough already in our capitalist system.

Are American's really this uneducated? They don't see what kind of liars and corrupt feces the repukes are?
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 08:51 AM
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2. Ah, well, education is overrated, anyway...
practice "Thank you for shopping at WalMart" and remember, look cheerful; people hate it when slaves look sullen or unhappy!

Think I'll go lie down now, I believe something has been sprained...
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 08:58 AM
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4. keep the masses dumb
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booksenkatz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 08:58 AM
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3. B-but I thought we were supposed to go back to school when our jobs
are outsourced to India (or entire divisions shut down, leaving hundreds of people out of work, as in the case of me & my former company). Oh well, the only places hiring around here are hiring shelf stockers, and since they say that people like me are "overqualified" and would "get bored" with getting a paycheck once more after 3 years, I guess it won't matter anyway.
<sigh>

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lavenderdiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 10:04 AM
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10. I was told this too in an interview....
at least I know I'm not alone.
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:21 AM
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5. Mid Career Health Care Workers
The community colleges are our primary source of "mid-career" health care workers. This includes "Licensed Vocational Nurses", advanced life support paramedics, some RNs, and the myriad of trained technicians.

The community colleges are the primary tool for "retraining" those whose jobs have been "outsourced" and "offshored."

The community colleges are a primary tool for facilitating the "re-entry" of active duty military veterans back into the civilian economy.

Maybe we should just "lay back and enjoy" the BushCo's Third Worldization of the once mighty US.

I have a name for the sum total of BushCo policies---

      TREASON
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:25 AM
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6. This will have a seconday effect of raising tuition ....
... as the overall revenues to community colleges are reduced. Adult education, largely an evening use of facilities, helps subsidize various long-term financing of community college infrastructure. Only a small part is direct expense (faculty, supplies, etc.). Community colleges "on the edge" fiscally could topple without emergency assistance.
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:31 AM
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7. My take on all of this is that the richest few want low wage labor.
How to create a working class that works for slave wages? Make the people stupid. Cut the education of the masses. Look at the predecessor of 'No Child Left Behind' in Texas where principals of schools were given finical incentives to get the children who preformed the worst in scholastic achievement to drop out.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 09:41 AM
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8. Wow
financial incentives to get rid of kids? Do you have a link for that? I don't doubt it but I would love to have some support to add to my evil educators file. :)
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 10:02 AM
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9. I heard it on the Erin Hart show last night on 710KIRO.
I'm looking for a link. Erin says that the principals were paid as much as $20.000 for gettin up to one third of the children who needed the most help to drop out.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 10:13 AM
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12. Well I really don't doubt it
I do know that Rod Paige was being investigated and we haven't heard much about that since he was tapped to be sec of ed. Now that he is out of shrub's cabinet, I have been waiting for the investigation to uncover some dirty details.

Didn't the Houston paper do a series of articles about the corruption in the school district there? I think I remember reading that here on DU several years ago.
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 10:20 AM
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13. Houston papers would be a good place to start looking.
I posted on Erin's forum board asking for a link. She on again tonight too, maybe she'll bring it back up.
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icymist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 11:08 AM
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15. Well, I found an 08/05/96 article in the Houston Chronicle.
Title starts out 'Principal's incentives anger some teachers/Cash awards up to $5,000 each allowed...'
The paper wants you pay them money to read the article and when I purchased a 'day pass' it keeps making errors. Well, at least we now have a date when this was news in Texas.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 01:36 PM
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17. Thank you
muchly. I will see what I can find out too.
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edhopper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 10:09 AM
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11. patsified mentions this,
but you may recall that in the debates, * specifically said that adult community college education was the answer for people who lose their job to outsourcing. In fact that was the only answer he gave.
Let's hold our breath while the MSM spotlights this hypocrisy.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 10:25 AM
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14. All the cuts in Education, Medicare, Social Services,
Veterans Service etc., is gutting this country alive.
Shipping our jobs overseas in skinning this country alive. Moving our manufacturing over seas is harvesting our organs from an otherwise healthy nation.

We are allowing ourselves to be killed for short term gains on paper wealth for the benefit of a few.
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pie Donating Member (782 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 02:12 PM
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20. Excellent summary. Looks like the great slide continues
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wallwriter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 12:56 PM
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16. And yet this much money is lost in the seat cushions
of the average privateer's couch in Iraq, but no one seems to care.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 01:38 PM
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18. Wow...what a surprise...
Just a short time ago, *² was touting THIS as the way of the future for workers whose jobs were outsourced.. :sarcasm:

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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 01:46 PM
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19. the cc's are sending their special ed students to
our local school district to handle.

we're already in a bind, raising class sizes, laying off teachers, cutting benefits. i'll probably be out of a job next year.
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oscar111 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:33 PM
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21. Friedman"Only 3 functions for gov"
see my sig, last few lines.

all to cut taxes of the rich.

Reaganomics is the lie we must overturn in the votes mind.
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MountainLaurel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-08-05 05:38 PM
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22. How exactly does that work?
Edited on Sun May-08-05 05:38 PM by MountainLaurel
I ask because I currently work at a CC, in the library. I spent much of Friday afternoon trying to answer a staff member's question about the cost to colleges of compliance/noncompliance with ADA.

Do the college students take college courses through the public school system (i.e., dual enrollment courses)? Are the classes taught by the college's faculty or adjuncts, or by public school teachers? Is the class college-level work? Or, do the students just get extraneous services such as interpreters, speech and occupational therapists? And is tuition money going to support these services?

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