Gallup: 50% of Americans Now Say Bush Deliberately Misled Them on WMDs

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Gallup: 50% of Americans Now Say Bush Deliberately Misled Them on WMDs

NEW YORK Half of all Americans, exactly 50%, now say the Bush administration deliberately misled Americans about whether Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, the Gallup Organization reported this morning.

"This is the highest percentage that Gallup has found on this measure since the question was first asked in late May 2003," the pollsters observed. "At that time, 31% said the administration deliberately misled Americans. This sentiment has gradually increased over time, to 39% in July 2003, 43% in January/February 2004, and 47% in October 2004."

Also, according to the latest poll, more than half of Americans, 54%, disapprove of the way President Bush is handling the situation in Iraq, while 43% approve. In early February, Americans were more evenly divided on the way Bush was handling the situation in Iraq, with 50% approving and 48% disapproving.

Last week Gallup reported that 53% now believe that the U.S. invasion of Iraq was "not worth it." But Frank Newport, editor in chief at Gallup, recalled today that although a majority of the public began to think the Vietnam war was a mistake in the summer of 1968, the United States did not pull out of Vietnam for more than five years, after thousands of more American lives were lost.

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/news/article_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000894970

[leftofthedial]

1. if gallup says 50%,

the real number must be closer to 70%

[lala_rawraw]

69. This is an impeachable "misleading"... wtf?

Can Gallup now see how many citizens want impeachment?

[bushisanidiot]

2. Americans to AWOL Bush: YOU SUCK!!!

this loser can't do anything right..

[JNelson6563]

59. Your post, coupled with your collage

and screen name, is utterly hilarious. :toast:

Julie

[Griffy]

75. OMG.. LOL at bush with lens covers still on! 51% voted Kerry... so..

its easy to see this, the propaganda machine is under attack from new media, like AAR , Ed shultz, ...the blogs!

[SammyWinstonJack]

159. What a classy guy he is.

Picking his nose and flipping off the Murican people! Proud to be an American! :patriot: Yes indeed!

[formerrepuke]

3. Only 50%?...WTF is holding the rest back?

[Gregorian]

4. The media

If only we could hold them accountable for masking the truth, and lying for the White House.

But still, one out of two americans has shit for brains? That is hard to believe.

[LibeMatt]

110. Can't remember where I first heard it...

...or who said it (I think it was in the context of how to get rich, or get along with everyone), but:

"You know how dumb the average person is? Well, statistically, half of the people are dumber..."

(assuming average equals median, anyway :) )

[fertilizeonarbusto]

6. It's Gallup

They always skew Rethug. You should read this as saying the real number is 70-75%.

[nine30]

7. Christianity..

..The other 50% simply cannot accept that a fellow Christian can do anything wrong.

[Name removed]

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[bunkerbuster1]

68. Give it a rest. You know the reason many Americans give him a pass.

It's because they think Chimpy's a "good Christian," and that Democrats are somehow atheists, or atheist-friendly, or something.

That's not a slur against other religions and beliefs. That's facing reality.

[nine30]

72. Exactly, thank you !

I have seen so many times on TV in Peter Hart's focus groups--

Some woman from OH or some other state stating that " I am not comfortable with some of the President's decisions ( meaning Iraq)..but (somewhat apologetically) I am going to vote for him because (mocking tone) ..He shares my values (/end mocking tone).
This is just so disgusting !

[SammyWinstonJack]

160. What values are those?

Lying, cheating, stealing or painting a giant bullseye on the back of single American by increasing terrorism world wide? Nice values that lady has. pResident Liar's born again horse sh*t is just that, horse sh*t! He was 'born again' to get the Fundy votes and it obviously worked. :banghead:

[burn the bush]

81. I've never seen him close his eyes when he prays

Isn;t that unusual?

[DrCorday]

122. I've noticed that too...

Well not exactly, but sometimes it looks like he's playing a game of "Peekaboo." Maybe he's just being the "hardass macho kick-butt terrorist killer" he is and keeping an eye out for national security crises - just in case he needs to suddenly bolt off and lead the future of our nation...


... to spend some quality time catching up on the sequel to The Pet Goat: "Return of the Pet Goat."

[burn the bush]

143. I've watched him several times and he bows his head but his eyes are

blinking like they do when he lies. He knows praying is a lie for him. He doesn't pray, he preys.

[jokerman93]

155. Return of the Pet Goat..

Wasn't that the theme of last November's election event?

It's pretty clear that Junior is in fact Dick Cheney's pet goat.

[Horse with no Name]

137. the fucker knows he is so vile and hated

if he closed his eyes someone could sneak up on him.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

84. I disagree. It's more to do with being the tough disciplinarian pop

All of my Repug relatives are non-church goers. They like Bush because they like his toughness.

A trait none of the Dems have right now except Boxer.

[bunkerbuster1]

89. We don't really disagree.

I'm just accounting for the apparent cognitive dissonance we see in "Christians" who vote Republican.

Plenty of Americans are "secular." The seculars who support Bush think we silly liberals are blowing the whole "theocracy" thing out of proportion.

They may have a minor point, actually. I think that a lot of what we call "theocracy" is just boring old politickin'... while those true-believing End Timers may think they've got a Godly man representing them, everyone else is in on the joke.

Of course it isn't much of a joke if you're being told you can't adopt, or that your kid has to waste time learning about Intelligent Design, or...

[Mist]

90. Weird--I NEVER perceive * as tough, but more as a spoiled brat.

After all, bullies are actually scared and weak (or so goes the popular psychology line). I HOPE as many as 70% disapprove, but that would seem high, even considering the Gallup skew.

[SleeplessinSoCal]

100. The term toughness also goes for the judiciary

Many Repugs who might be concerned about the environment would sacrifice it for a strong conservative judiciary who will crack down on perceived abuse of abortion rights.

What nobody is really saying is that Judge Owen is owing to Enron and Haliburton as well as being an activisit for religious extremists.

So the Capitalists can be happy to allow her to wave any harsh judgements against corporates and come down hard on the powerless.

Strange Christians these Neo-Christians....

[nine30]

70. By "Christian"..

..I meant the virulent-Right/Osama-Wing of the relegion. No offense to moderate Christians. And I am NOT bigoted.

[Stanchetalarooni]

8. Intelligence.

[HereSince1628]

10. Irreducible ignorance...caused by an unwillingness to be informed

A huge number are unwilling to consider that Bush could make a mistake (let alone purposefully decieve) because it makes them look like they were wrong to support him. No one wants to admit they were had.

[yorkiemommie1]

52. that would apply to the repugs i know

digging their heels in, " i see nothing, i hear nothing, i know nothing ".

[jazzjunkysue]

91. Absofriggin lutely. They're invested. Period.

[MADem]

148. And in order to change their minds, they have to ADMIT THEY WERE WRONG

Pride won't let them do that. With any luck, they'll just stay home come the next election.

[CrispyQ]

92. He is the perfect president for them . . .

He doesn't make mistakes, his followers don't make mistakes.

I do not understand the reluctance so many people have to admit they made a mistake or error in judgement. :wtf: Admit it, fix it & move on.

[indepat]

29. Their ideological belief that a Repug president must be allowed to do what

he wants, damn its legality, its constitutionality, its rationality.

[ozymandius]

32. shame over being so rediculously stupid as to believe this guy

How could this many people be so dumb?

[chomskysright]

135. Get UN-DUMB: Rico lawsuit : PA attny takes on Bush II:

http://www.arcticbeacon.com/articles/article/1518131/24652.htm This is the core of the lawsuit: skip down to p. 76, below:

".....Berg told the court bluntly: "If there was no government complicity in the 9/11 attacks, why have defendants lied repeatedly about abundant advance warnings?....

Berg added that Press Secretary Ari Fleischer also lied in a May 16, 2002, press statement when he announced: "The President did not receive information about the use of airplanes as missiles by suicide bombers. This was a new kind of attack that had not been foreseen."

Adding to the enormity of the lying, Berg cited a statement made by Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld made to the entire nation on September 30, 2001:
"Never would it have crossed anyone’s mind that a commercial airline would be used as a missile. Usually a hijacker who takes an airplane, of course, wants to get someplace or wants to make a statement or wants to go on television or wants to hold hostages, but this is a distinctly different behavior pattern than we have seen previously, and now, obviously, something we have to be attentive to."

Further, Berg added that Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta also lied to the 9/11 Commission, on May 23, 2003, when he said: "I don’t think we ever thought of an aircraft being used as a missile. We had no information of that nature at all....."

(Until it was leaked to the press in May 2002, the Bush II Administration withheld
from the public the title of the CIA’s daily briefing to President Bush on August 6, 2001: “Bin
Laden Determined to Strike in U.S.”118) p. 87 of below document:
pp. 77 on, for about 10 pages, assoc w/ pdf, are a list of the various historical pieces re: Bush II administration lie re: 'we never imagined....'

[0007]

152. It is amazing that hardly anyone is paying attention.

Why?

[d_b]

34. No shit.

We're a dumb fucking lot.

[Kmarx]

104. My

how articulate you are.

[d_b]

120. did ya like that?

I'm also available for militia magazines and Klan potlucks.

Edited for misunderestimation.

[Kmarx]

129. I strongly suggest

that you consult your physician.

[RebelOne]

38. They're in denial.

They don't want to believe that the great leader would lie.

[Strawman]

46. Fox News, peer pressure, plus a total lack of intellectual curiosity

the not-so-secret ingredients to Karl Rove's special sauce.

[Maraya1969]

54. Remember 50% of Americans are below average intelligence

[Kmarx]

102. You said it.

[MN ChimpH8R]

80. One explanation

They tell us that
We lost our tails
Evolving up
From little snails
I say it’s all
Just wind in sails
Are we not men?
We are devo!
We’re pinheads now
We are not whole
We’re pinheads all
Jocko homo
Are we not men?
D-e-v-o
Monkey men all
In business suit
Teachers and critics
All dance the poot
Are we not men?
We are devo!
Are we not men?
D-e-v-o
God made man
But he used the monkey to do it
Apes in the plan
We’re all here to prove it
I can walk like an ape
Talk like an ape
I can do what a monkey can do
God made man
But a monkey supplied the glue
We must repeat
O.k. let’s go!

-Devo

they even foresaw His Chimperial Majesty:evilgrin:

[ktowntennesseedem]

82. This just in: 50% of Americans

get their news from sources other than Fox.

[BlueIris]

128. formerrepuke, you are my FAVORITE.

I know this poll is supposed to make us optimistic, but, but--all I can think is...gee, so a whopping HALF of Americans aren't COMPLETELY, STONE-COLD STUPID/INSANE. WOOOO. I'm so PROUD to be American. GO, IGNORANCE! AND FECULENT BIGOTRY! WE'RE NUMBER ONE! DUBYA'S DAYS ARE NUMBERED!!!

[callous taoboy]

5. Well Gaaaaaah-LEE.

After hearing the first words out of his mouth so many years ago I knew that I wouldn't even buy a vacuum cleaner from this twerp.

[UpInArms]

9. where was the line in this article

that says:

In spite of falling support, 96% of those polled said they would still have voted for the idiot.

It's usually in every article that gives a poll with a large negative number. :shrug:

[dArKeR]

11. I have a Repuke friend who doesn't care if aWol lied. He says it's okay

since he thinks Saddam is a 'bad guy'. But don't the soldiers going to die and amputated in Iraq derseve to know the truth before they went? Don't the people who are paying aWol's salary and paying the defense contractors deserve to know the truth?

[TheFarseer]

33. We deserve to know the truth so we can all come together

and make an educated decision. It's like a used car salesman making you buy a car without knowing what kind of car it is or how much is costs! If we know all the facts and still decide to take out Saddam, then so be it, but you and I both know we wouldn't have.

[Mel]

35. yea and I bet your friend

thinks it was wrong for Clinton to lie about a BJ and he should of been impeached for it.

It's truly is sickening the way the right refuses to see their hypocrisy.

[Maraya1969]

65. That is what my fundamental - less brother says

He thinks it is a good strategy. I just read his last sermon where he states over and over again that the Bible says it is never OK to kill an innocent person, (personally I think it says it's not OK to kill. Period. Maybe this is where the Fundies get off with the death penalty and war).

To continue: His "don't kill an innocent person" bit was all about Terri Schaivo, abortion, euthanasia and assisted suicide. He mentions once that a commander sends his troupes into harms way but does not INTEND for them to be killed!.

I shot back with - "what about the innocent soldiers on the other side"!
And some other ditties but he has not responded.

BTW - this man is currently working on his Doctorate in Theology!


:scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared: :scared:

[Massachusetts]

12. Only 50%?! America is easily manipulated because of the idiot majority

Pic explanation: Guy on his knees is representative of the "idiot" majority of Amerikans.

Middle guy: no explanation needed*?

Rear guy: Representative of Re-thugs, Corporate Pigs and Christian Coalition

[smoogatz]

15. Um--wow. What a great pic.

What the fuck is going on there?

[ogradda]

28. Omg, I'm dying here. Where'd you get that??

:rofl:

[Deaniac1]

74. Several thoughts on this pic....

Looks like the party game pass the orange under you chin to the next person, in this case - pass the buck through ....

Broken zipper?

Fancy bumping into you Mr. Prez. Didn't you just drop something? :smoke:

Don't mind us, we're just hooking up the wire for the receiver prior to the debates. It obviously runs on a fiber optic wire from his brain (note the guy on his knees beginning the insertion process) through the monkey on Bush's backside, ultimately exiting from his pie hole. :spank:

[Kolesar]

86. "Keep digging, you'll find it"

[smoogatz]

13. So, IF 50% think he lied, and 40% think we found them...

What percenatge of Americans watch Fox News?

[yorkiemommie1]

55. went shopping at LA jewelry district

high up in lobby on big screen.... F****NEWS.

Shopping at macy's.... on screens in women's dept. F****NEWS

i boycott both and i tell them why, too. cut up two macy's credit cards and sent them back.

[smoogatz]

57. You need a Telezapper.

Bought my wife one for Xmas. They work great.

[JNelson6563]

61. Tell me of this "telezapper"

Intriguing....:evilgrin:

[smoogatz]

66. I got the name wrong: it's called a TV B-Gone

It's a little key-ring sized gadget with a single button that will turn off any TV that has a remote-sensor (but not the ones in airports, alas). It's undetectable and works like a charm. An all-around excellent gift for your TV-hating friends. I got mine at: www.tvbegone.com

[JNelson6563]

123. Reasonably priced too!

Thanks for link! :toast:

[Mad_Dem_X]

138. That's so cool!

Me wantee! :bounce:

[yorkiemommie1]

109. it was set high in the wall

would that still work? oh, would that it would!!!

[smoogatz]

125. It would indeed.

If the TV is in your line of sight (not around a corner or through a wall), TV B-Gone will zap it. I don't usually endorse stuff like this, but it's a wonderful product--just 14.95. My wife loves hers.

[Maraya1969]

73. Good for YOU !!!!!

And I'm very glad you sent them back so they KNOW.

:applause:

[yorkiemommie1]

113. you have no idea how high my blood pressure went

and my pressure is usually 90/58! in the run-up to the 'war' i would go shopping. and in three fitting room areas there were / are these screens set in the wall w/ instructions that ONly FoxNews and some other channel (sports? )were to be on. But on my numerous trips there ( to escape from the world for a while ), FOX would be blasting.

i would sneak over and turn the volume down but you could still see the screen. complaints to the salespeople brought the lame excuse: " well the store spent a lot of money putting them in......."

I would write to the mgr. No Response. So I started my personal boycott. After Xmas, i checked them again and this time one of *'s social security propaganda films was on. That was when i cut up the first card. They also sent another type of card and that one was cut up and sent to the company president. I got a letter from his secretary saying I'd get a response ... we shall see.

even though i get a friends and family discount from a neighbor who worked for them, i don't use them. i don't need macy's and evidently macy's doesn't need me.

[mark11727]

96. Wasn't that a question on the math S.A.T.s...?

[wtbymark]

14. hmmmm and no talk of impeachment

after deliberately lying to the American public, spending 200billion that we didn't need to spend, and an obvious host of other issues like; fake news and fake news reporters, fundie pandering, oh and don't forget our use of WMD's in fallujha (sp?), oh yup, and the torture policies, and then there's.......etc.

not a word, nope
and all Clinton did was make a stain on some girls dress

yup makes sense, all of it

[smoogatz]

17. If he lied to the people, then he lied to Congress

and that's an impeachable offense. I'm starting to wonder who's going to abandon ship forst in the Republican congress. Which of the rats, watching Bush's numbers decline, is going to start calling for real investigations?

[fishwax]

31. I don't think any of them will

I think they're all too entrenched. But I'm sure hoping ...

[northzax]

51. he never testified under oath

so there is no high crime or misdemeanor to be had.

[smoogatz]

56. I don't believe that's required

in a constitutionally mandated State of the Union address. I could be indulging in wishful thinking, of course.

[northzax]

58. it wou;dn't take much of a lawyer

to win that one. Perjury requires knowledge that you are lying. Bush could probably easily demonstrate that his aides filtered the information so that he was telling the truth, as best he knew. In fact, I think he was acting in good faith (legally), others failed to.

but I still don't think there is a perjury threat at the SOTU.

[smoogatz]

63. You really think he didn't know?

I don't buy it. I think they ALL knew the WMD case was bullshit, and they went ahead with it anyway, figuring they'd probably find some 80s-era mustard rounds in a bunker somewhere that could justify the invasion after the fact. They had to know there were no current programs.

[northzax]

64. I think he very cleverly

made sure he never saw anything that said it was false, so he could say it's true without lying.

[chomskysright]

139. evidence is strong than that as assoc w/ RICO lawsuit:

BUSH II ADMINS PEOPLE KNEW: WHY ELSE:
http://www.911forthetruth.com/pages/BergBlog.htm

A few members of Congress, notably Senators Daschle (D-SD) and Leahy (D-VT),
briefly resisted the “Patriot Act” with its many unconstitutional provisions. Messrs. Daschle and
Leahy, however, were thereupon sent potentially fatal dosages of “weaponized” anthrax, from
American stores. Congress has been mostly supine since.....

The determination
to cover up the truth was so complete, and so “bipartisan,” that not even one outsider, not one
person directly injured by the attacks, not even the estimable (and, as it happens, Republican)
Ms. Breitweiser could be brought into that sanctum in which “truth” is fabricated for the
masses.

The (9-11) Commission almost makes the Warren Commission look like a model
of truth-seeking and alacrity. At least the Warren Commission required witnesses to be sworn....

24

Also on 9-11, NORAD was conducting a periodic war game,, this one known as
“Vigilant Guardian.” Details have not been made public, but it is known that the scenario was
supposed to test “an imaginary crisis to North American Air Defense outposts nationwide.”72
According to one NORAD employee, “everybody” at NORAD initially thought that the real
hijackings on 9-11 were part of the exercise.73...

89
People tend to excuse the military for not promptly responding to the attacks of 9-11
because they have been led to believe that the only military alternative was to shoot down planes
carrying civilian passengers; but this is not the case. Standard military procedure when a plane
deviates off course (something air controllers know immediately) is to send up fighter planes to
locate the "lost" plane, fly beside it, peer into the windows to see what is going on, and try to
guide it to safety. None of this was done with any of the four hijacked planes, despite ample
time in each case. In the case of Flight 77, the military had nearly an hour to do it; yet fighters
were never sent up to accompany or communicate with the airliner before it crashed into the
Pentagon.

The simultaneous occurence of the two events (NORAD Vigilant Guardian drill and 9-11) could not have been mere coincidence; and without
their simultaneous occurrence, the hijacking attempt would have failed. How did the hijackers
know of the exercise? Plaintiff submits that the defendants were and could only have been
complicit in the deed.

[MADem]

149. False official statement, perhaps? nt

[sandnsea]

71. SOTU Constitutionally required

Arguably the most important appearance a President makes. The very idea that a President has to be sworn to tell the truth in the SOTU, ridiculous. The deal is, I've actually gone through alot of the Administration's speeches & testimony. They were very tricky in the way they stated things. The real whoppers came in the media. That isn't against the law.

[glitch]

108. Lying a country into war is a high crime, whether it's under oath or not.

So is racketeeting, committing waste, and war-profiteering.

These creeps have committed so many impeachable offenses we don't have to settle for perjury.

[MADem]

150. You are in the realm of conspiracy, there! nt

[glitch]

154. Their crimes only include conspiracy if they've kept them hidden

They're very open about what they are doing, they just think their actions are justified and therefore, not criminal.

[MADem]

157. No, I meant it in the legal sense

Where two or more people get together to subvert, defraud, whatever. ... not the secret sense, or even the tinfoil hat sense!!!

[glitch]

158. In that case, add it on! nt

[carnie_sf]

16. That's what happens

when you put a bunch of chickenhawks in charge of the military. And it's my 400th post. Yay!

[chomskysright]

140. NORAD lied: RICO lawsuit:

http://www.911forthetruth.com/pages/BergBlog.htm

look at pdf's


Thus, even leaving Otis as late as
8:52 A.M., it is inexplicable that the F-15s failed to reach New York before 9:03 A.M.
236. NORAD cannot reconcile its “scalded ape,” “full-blower” claims with its story that
it took the F-15s from Otis nineteen minutes to reach New York City.153 Traveling 188 miles in
19 minutes means that these 1875 MPH fighters responded to this crisis flying at an average
speed of about 594 MPH, a distinctly subsonic speed, a fraction of the F-15’s capabilities,

Indeed, neither Flight 11 nor Flight 175 was at any time lost to Boston flight control’s radar.

“Within minutes” of the first impact at 8:46 A.M., two open telephone conference calls were
established among the FAA, NORAD, the Secret Service, and a number of other government
agencies.167 Indeed, according to multiple news sources, even President Bush and Vice President
Cheney were occasionally overheard on these open lines.168
241. Based on the foregoing, it defies belief that, as NORAD claimed in testimony before
the Commission on May 23, 2003, it was not notified of Flight 11 striking the North Tower of
the World Trade Center until 9:05 A.M.169

NORAD, plainly, cannot keep its lies straight,

NORAD did nothing between 8:40
A.M., at which hour it admits receiving word that Flight 11 had been hijacked, for at least 57
minutes, until some time after the Pentagon was struck, at 9:37 A.M.171

F-15 fighters departing Otis as late as 8:52 A.M. could,
without undue effort, have reached New York in time to intercept Flight 175. The discrepancies
in NORAD’S (and Gen. Myers’) accounts are numerous, consequential, and highly suspect.

But for the fact that the Commission has
evidently accepted, without question, the dubious testimony from NORAD, and the major media
(while persisting in reporting some facts not consistent with the Official Story) has not
highlighted these facts or their implications, NORAD would have “a lot of explaining to do”
concerning its failure to get a fighter plane over Washington (and nearby Arlington, Virginia) in
the approximately 47 minutes it ought to have had for that task.

[The Donkey]

18. Great news!!!!

Does that mean we have one o' them . . .

Man-dates???

[Solly Mack]

19. The word is lied. Bush LIED to America. Misled is just so quaint.

He deliberately LIED.

That's what the headline should read.

[rodeodance]

21. ONLY 50%!! crapo. while an improvement--still bad that so many

people are either stupid, sleeping or just do not give a dame.

[Solly Mack]

23. I agree

[leftchick]

37. Agreed, How many times was Clinton and Lie in the same headline?

Only 1574 US Military and untold numbers of Iraqis have Died for this LIE! :grr:

[Solly Mack]

39. Yep. The press wasn't afraid to use the word then

but now? they are digging out their thesauruses and dusting them off..
anything but tell the truth...Bush LIED

[Atlas Mugged]

20. Well...duh!

Only 50%??? How does the other 50% eat without choking to death???

[0007]

22. God how dumb can some people get? It sure takes time

for some to come around, 'eh?

[The_Casual_Observer]

24. All you have to do is watch replays of the speeches, particularly

the SOTU and you can see how he can hardly contain himself from laughing. Clearly he knows he is shitting the public and he does it with a certain pleasure and twinkle in his eye, knowing that he has the world over a barrel.

[Kmarx]

114. Absolutely

and when Georgie was young he spent a lot of time in the barrel, the beer barrel that is.

[plasticsundance]

25. I think there's about 30 - 35 percent of Americans

that would never change their minds about Chimpy-the-Idiot-King just because he has an R in front of his political affiliation. I think Michael Moore said, appearing in an interview with Charlie Rose, there's like 30 - 35 percent of Americans that would vote for a sock-puppet if it had an R before its political affiliation.

Then there's about 10 - 15 percent that are severely ill-informed, thanks in part to a lack of curiosity, and another part of being fed the US-MSM bullshit.

I'd say about 50 to 55 percent are catching on to the antics of Idiot-Chimpy-in-Chief. I know this doesn't come to a perfect hundred, but I'm roughly estimating.

[katty]

26. IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!

[renaissanceguy]

49. We better begin impeachment

after we win back the House in '06.


http://www.cafepress.com/liberalissues.21272015

[Az_lefty]

27. 53% think the invasion of Iraq wasn't worth it...

what the fuck is wrong with the other 47%????

[ckramer]

47. They are busy playing

banjos...hehe

[Im with Rosey]

77. You just made my day!

:rofl:

[Beetwasher]

30. Can The Media Start Calling Him a FUCKING LIAR ALREADY!!!!!!!

I mean damn, what the fuck is gonna take?

[Vincardog]

36. You will wait a long time tor the Corporate Controlled Propaganda

machine to tell the truth.

[Kmarx]

115. Oh come now

it's 'be kind to dumb animals' week! Where's your compassion?

[bejammin075]

40. One way street

Once you believe you were mislead on WMD, there's no turning back. Those in the 50% who know they were deceived, there is no way to un-convince them.

Therefore, I make this prediction:

Bush's approval will never be above 50% (within MOE), ever again.

[saracat]

41. And? So we "told you so! " Big deal.

These people better remember this come 2006! And the Dems better reming them rather than making "nice" or running from the issue.

[opihimoimoi]

42. In a few months, it'll hover around 76%. America will demand an accounting

from Dufus to explain...and he will deny, get angry, then, when cornered, compromise with some silly ass shit excuse and sell it with a smirk.

[Knight of Ni]

117. Can you say "New Terror Alert"? n/m

[chomskysright]

142. if a red alert goes down: THE COUNTRY IS CLOSED DOWN:: RICO LAWSUIT;

see pdf's:

http://www.911forthetruth.com/pages/BergBlog.htm

General Frank Salzedo, then Chief of FEMA’s “Civil Security Division,” stated in a 1983
conference that he saw FEMA’s role as including the denial of “access to U.S. opinion” to
“dissident groups” in times of crisis. In other words, if the President declares a state of
emergency, the First Amendment is a dead letter, and FEMA’s role includes the suppression of
dissent.

Presidential powers were further increased with successive Crime Bills (particularly
those enacted in 1991 and 1993). This legislation increased the power to suspend rights
guaranteed under the Constitution, and to seize the property of persons including suspected drug
dealers, and individuals who participate in a public protest or demonstration.

[maxsolomon]

43. he didn't mislead me

because i KNEW they were lying in the first place!

wake the f up, sheeple!

[Ezlivin]

44. The other 50% is what scares me

How is it possible that ANYONE still believes this assclown?

[ECH1969]

45. Social Security is killing Bush

For those that haven't picked it up yet. Bush's push on SS has dropped all of this numbers from Iraq to the War on Terror. Which proves a point I have long had, if the public is really pissed off at Bush in one area that will affect all the others.

[Kmarx]

105. The public

is not pissed off at Bush. The public likes a president to mirror them, that is, they want to see a president that is like them. Bush is a jackass, an idiot, a fool, a moron, a liar, someone who would sell his own mother for a buck, and these are his best points. Thus the public loves Bush.

[alfredo]

48. Going to have to

:kick: this

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. Dime on the dollar this poll does not make it to the stenography corp

[SlowDownFast]

53. Can we please, please, please, please

puhleeeeeeeeeze start impeachment proceedings now???

[Number9Dream]

60. Bushco. cadre inside the CIA

Does anyone else remember reading about how Bushco had there own group within the CIA, whose job it was to cherrypick only intelligence which supported WMD propaganda? If so, can you provide a link? That never gets mentioned in the MSM either.

[Dr Gonzo]

78. Bushco. cadre inside the CIA

Do a search for "office of special plans" or maybe "cheney office of special plans." You might also want to start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Office_of_Special_Plans

[GOPBasher]

67. That's good news, but it should be even worse for Bush. n/t

[HockeyMom]

76. Trust factor

I thought the majority of the Americans who voted for Bush did so based on the trust factor. They "thought" he was was a good ole boy, just like them. If they think he deliberately lied to them, how can they trust him anymore - on ANYTHING.

[Dawgs]

79. What did O'Reilly say two years ago?

"I will never trust the Bush Administration again if they don't find WMD's"

I wonder which side he is on now.

[Kmarx]

103. O'Reilly

Is a phoney. He knows that he can only say what Rupert Murdock will permit him to say about that fool in the White House. That's why he (O'Reilly) spins so well when Bush trips over his own feet.

[Seldona]

83. I just don't get it.

How can ANYONE still support the giggling murderer?

Not ONE THING this clown, or his administration, said about this war has turned out to be right. NOT ONE.

I would think that when you are wrong 100% of the time, and the country that you invaded is on the verge of civil war, that the time would come when even republicans want this man held accountable.

How are we losing to these people?

Sheesh!

[Ilsa]

85. Someone who voted for the monster told me

it was because they felt like they didn't know what they were getting with Kerry, even though they agreed that Bush* was horrible. I told them I understand their point, but that maybe they didn't understand how truly evil Bushco is. I really don't get it either. And i don't understand why people aren't screaming for impeachment, unless it is because they are too busy struggling to get by.

[Kmarx]

107. Your figures are correct

but Americans have a soft spot for losers, especially ones with soft brains.

[still_one]

87. if true, then 50% of this country are idiots

[MADem]

151. 50% of this country doesn't even bother to VOTE!

It's no surprise that there are that many nitwits out there...

[Mr_Scarecrow]

88. That's a great number!

I think the other 50% still believe Bush was misled by the FBI, CIA, etc.
I wonder how many still believe there were WMDs? The latest report did leave some room for this possibility, and if you know anything about teleportation to other dimensions, you probably believe it too.

[V Lee]

93. What took them so long?

I think if the media had done a better job of researching the neocons' background and agenda and reporting it, more people would have wised up sooner. There was plenty of evidence that they were manipulating intelligence (and probably even outright lying) before the war, but the mainstream media ignored it.


>> What's on Bill's mind? Political commentary with attitude and more at http://www.BillsBrain.com

[Mondon]

95. yeah really. talk about a dollar short and a day late n/t

[Kmarx]

106. How true

but the main media was shaking in its boots. Case in point, on MSNBC both Ashley Banfield and Phil Donahue were kicked off the air when they spoke their minds about the warmongers who were leading the American off to another imperialistic war.

[xchrom]

94. that was sooo S.L.O.W.!

and to think americans think america is exceptional.:think:

[MrSlayer]

97. Years go by and only 50% know the truth?

What a stupid country we live in, it's embarrassing.

[BamaLefty]

98. Then Why The Hell...

59 million :eyes:

[C_eh_N_eh_D_eh]

112. Because God wanted them to.

Duh.

[struggle4progress]

99. Bush Approval Falls In The United States

(Angus Reid Global Scan) – Support for George W. Bush remains uneven, according to a poll by Gallup released by CNN and USA Today. 48 per cent of respondents approve of the president’s performance, a two per cent drop in two weeks. <snip>


Do you approve or disapprove of how George W. Bush is handling his job as president?

Apr. 18-21 Apr. 4-7 Apr. 1-2

Approve 48% 50% 48%
Disapprove 49% 45% 48%

Source: Gallup / CNN / USA Today
Methodology: Telephone interviews to 1,003 American adults, conducted from Apr. 18 to Apr. 21, 2005. Margin of error is 3 per cent.

http://www.angus-reid.com/polls/index.cfm?fuseaction=viewItem&itemID=6936

[Kmarx]

101. I'm not surprised.

The fact that 50% of the public now says that Bush is a liar should not surprise us nor give us any solace. The fact that it took so long for them to catch on to this psychopath and the fact that only 50% have caught speaks less then well about the intelligence of the American people.

[Kmarx]

111. If Americans had anything on the ball

they would have seen Fahrenheit 9/11. They would have noticed something very revealing in the scene where the jackass was preparing to go on the air and tell America that it was going to war. The moron was fighting back a laugh up to the last few seconds before he went on the air! I wonder what he found so funny, was it the war!

[hollowdweller]

116. The sad thing

Is that anybody who really wanted to do a little digging BEFORE the war could see that he was lying. I think it's a crime that none of the Dems have had the guts to call him on it yet. Even the British are calling Blair a lier.

[leesa]

118. Ahhhh...so what...picky, picky, picky!

I think there have been some historic shenanigans goin' on.

[sellitman]

119. THE BASTARDS STILL VOTED FOR|THE|FUCK!!!!!!!

Who cares abou this WORTHLESS poll?

Give me a break!!!!!!

[DrCorday]

121. I know...

So many Republicans are like "Well, I disagreed with the way he went about the war too..."

Okay, so lying about a war is fine, but a man marrying a man, that's something we need to stop.

The other day, a friend of mine encountered a neoCon literally arguing that Saddam may STILL have nuclear weapons we haven't yet discovered. Five minutes later, he was scraping his ass off the floor. It was good times to watch.

Anyway, I think this number will go up. And next thing you know, gas prices will skyrocket, the economy will stagnate, the Republican administration will be embroiled in scandal and 1973 - I mean, oops, wait, what year are we in? - will be rolling around. Oh so sad. If we only hadn't elected the assholes in the first place.

[sellitman]

124. Something wrong when so many people

vote against their best interests. What a con job the Repugs have pulled off here. They actually got more people scared of Gays than Osama Bin Laden. It is flabbergasting!!

[demo dutch]

141. You can blame the repugs or you can blame the voters! Sorry, but I blame

the stupid people of this country that voted him in for a 2nd term. They're also responsible for the fact that we have a one-party system in this country now. So they get what they deserve... no healthcare, badly funded schools, unemployment, high oil prices, etc etc.,

Let's face it, it shouldn't have boiled down to Ohio or Florida. Voting irregularities or not, it should have been a landslide! and it wasn't. The Guardian was right with it headline
"How can .....million people be that stupid"!

[sellitman]

145. Read my post again....

I think we are saying the same thing. I just blame the repugs for the con job....for the vote outcome, I agree.

Kevin

[demo dutch]

153. I know, but "Con job" or not, the people are actually buying their

nonsense and let the repugs pull the wool over their eyes. I understand that can happen to some, but half the Nation? In my view that pretty sums up the level of intelligence.

[Bo]

126. It REALLY is the OPIATE of the masses

....this election proved it beyond all doubt.

[clem_c_rock]

127. WHY CAN'T WE USE THE WORK LIE!!!!!!!

This is becoming insanely maddening.

The British public are furious and are not cowards like Americans are.

The are rightfully fucking pissed and are not afraid to use the word LIE.

I'm also appalled at how many DU'ers are still buying the intelligence failure story. Is this because reality is so hard to deal w/.

Haven't we noticed they used the incompetence theory for EVERYTHING??

Let's see: Gulf of Tonkin -->>Oh shit we weren't REALLY attacked.
Sorry about that folks we meant well
but you, know it gave us the
excuse we were looking for to draft your
kids and waste over a million Gooks.

Let's see: 911-->>You know the whole world knew something was going to
to happen, but having the most advanced Intelligence
in the world, the most advanced air warning system,
in the world, things just get sooo complicated some
times. Then we give you guys the Warren/er uh, 911
commission that ignores all the insane questions of
logic that noone cares to answer.

Look - they're going to use the incompetence tactic in every sticky situation where 1000's of people will die.

How long are we going to keep buying this shit?

[clem_c_rock]

130. kick!

[4_Legs_Good]

131. OMFG! 50%

That's insane! That's monumental!!! Half of all Americans believe that George Bush Jr. lied us into war!?!?!?

WHY THE FUCK IS THIS GUY STILL IN THE WHITEHOUSE???

david

[Dangerman]

144. Qood question

[shantipriya]

132. No WMD's

So what? Nothing can happen now because of the moronic nature of the majority.A good number of people in this country cannot imagine their Govt telling lies.

[bitchkitty]

133. Shit - that's still 50% who don't think so?

it's still pathetic. Glad everyone's waking up, hope it's not too late.

[tjwash]

134. And the other fifty percent think that Iraq had nuke-yoo-lar missles...

...pointed at us, and that the troops burst in on Sadaam Hussein just as his finger was headed toward the "launch" button.

[demo dutch]

136. And they couldn't figure that out before the election?!!

I am shocked at how stupid people are in this country

[sellitman]

146. The other 50% shouldn't ever be allowed to vote again

For being such STUPID BRAINLESS A**HOLES.

:crazy:

[BonjourUSA]

147. Only 50% !! Perhaps the other 50% doesn't know what a WMD is !

:sarcasm:

[Xenotime]

156. It was bound to happen

This country has been handed to terrorists. Now we have another Viet Nam on our hands.

[Arkansas Granny]

161. You're damn right he mislead us.

And a lot of us knew that over two years ago. I always wondered why, if we had all that "proof", that he didn't just tell the weapons inspectors and let them deal with it since they were already there. The reason is, he wanted a war. His ratings were slipping and the "war on terror" had been very, very good for *.

[NNguyenMD]

162. thats a stubborn forty odd percent of the nation

[Vinca]

163. Polls, schmolls, we're still stuck with this loser. nt