Lawyer: Schiavo Ruling Expected Soon

[rodeodance]

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Lawyer: Schiavo Ruling Expected Soon

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By JILL BARTON, Associated Press Writer

TAMPA, Fla. - Warning that Terri Schiavo was "fading quickly" and might die at any moment, her parents begged a federal appeals court Tuesday to order the severely brain-damaged woman's feeding tube reinserted.



The appeals court didn't indicate when it might rule, but George Felos, the attorney for Terri's husband, Michael Schiavo, told the Associated Press that he expected a decision before daybreak Wednesday.......

[goodboy]

1. they'll never overturn the ruling...I'll be flabbergasted if they do.

[barb162]

2. I doubt if it is overturned but I won't be surprised if it is.

[Guckert]

3. If they don't, the Schindlers will go to the world court in the Hague next.

They could bring the entire Fox "news" team with them. Sean will be in the baby seat in the back.

[grannylib]

5. Gotta have that Fox guarding the chickenhawk house and all the

hypocrites therein

[Gman]

4. Something still surprises you these days?

Not me!

[rodeodance]

7. Why is the US Justice Dept involved in this??

.....The Justice Department (news - web sites) also filed a court statement, saying an injunction was "plainly warranted" to carry out the wishes of Congress to provide federal court jurisdiction over the case.

[quaoar]

22. Probably an amicus brief

[donheld]

6. flabbergasted

To be surprised or astonished.

The British comedian Frankie Howerd used to say in mock astonishment: “I’m flabbergasted—never has my flabber been so gasted!”. That’s about as good an explanation for the origin of this word as you’re likely to get. It turns up first in print in 1772, in an article on new words in the Annual Register. The writer couples two fashionable terms: “Now we are flabbergasted and bored from morning to night”. (Bored—being wearied by something tedious—had appeared only a few years earlier.) Presumably some unsung genius had put together flabber and aghast to make one word.

The source of the first part is obscure. It might be linked to flabby, suggesting that somebody is so astonished that they shake like a jelly. It can’t be connected with flapper, in the sense of a person who fusses or panics, as some have suggested, as that sense only emerged at the end of the nineteenth century. But flabbergasted could have been an existing dialect word, as one early nineteenth-century writer claimed to have found it in Suffolk dialect and another—in the form flabrigast— in Perthshire. Further than this, nobody can go with any certainty.

[Dark]

36. Do you have a link to the quote on your sig line? n/t

[saracat]

28. They can't overturn it. They won't overturn their fellow judges.

And Scotus doesn't favor this. And the Courts feel threatened. its everyman for himself and the courts will vote their own butts!

[sonicx]

8. if it's not overturned, expect "activist judge" rhetoric..

[bluestateguy]

14. Of course

Any judicial decision the Right disagrees with must be a product of "judicial activism" and "legislating from the bench".

[Lindacooks]

25. "Legislating from the bench", huh?

Gee, how about 'rendering verdicts from the legislature'? That's what that insane Congress just did.

[FM Arouet666]

9. Bet it gets overturned, eventually.

If the appeals court fails to overturn the ruling, I would bet that the case goes to the supreme court. And we all know what kind of relationship chimpo has with SCOTUS. or is that Scrotum, Supreme court ruling of the unmoral majority.

[goodhue]

15. don't think so

she will die naturally before any such eventualities

[FM Arouet666]

16. A mixed blessing.

I wonder if she will become a martyr for the radical right wing. We have already seen the extreme pandering by the GOP in congress and the chimperer to the fundie base. When she dies, and they scream for new legislation in defense of people in vegetative states, will they act?

Imagine having a loved one fall ill from an MI or CVA and lying in a coma with little chance for recovery. No living will, by federal law, the patient gets a tracheostomy and a feeding tube and goes to a care facility. You lose your right to make medical decisions, the decision given to the state at the behest of religious fundamentalists.

Sound unrealistic. I sure hope so. But, rule of law seems to be an alien topic to this administration, and the supreme court ruling in 2000 does not add much comfort.

[rainbow4321]

19. At this rate....

her kidneys wil be shutting down soon and not being fed will be the least of their worries....then we will hear them arguing over dialysis, etc...

[CottonBear]

10. If there is a god, he/she will release Terri from her suffering

in this existence and release her soul to the universe/heaven.

[lavenderdiva]

11. info please...

is it correct to think that if the appeals court upholds the lower court's decision, the Schindlers will most likely appeal it at the Supreme Court? So there will be more waiting? Haven't the Supremes already knocked this back down to State Court already? Anyone know?

[anitar1]

27. They have already announced that they will go to Supremes. n/t

[lavenderdiva]

44. thanks... n/t

[bilgewaterbill]

12. Injunction re-inserting feeding tube

pending new hearing on case. Just a guess.

[MiniMe]

30. I don't think so.

This case has gone on forever. I think judges get pretty pissed off when they get questioned like this, especially by congress.

[jojo54]

13. WTF???

Why then, was this new "law" enacted???.....if the Schindler's will be allowed to try appeal after appeal after appeal??? This is so hypocritical of *, after he signs 1999 law in Texas that lets a hospital's BIOETHICS COMMITTEE pull the plug. Keep it up Georgie, one of these days you're gonna find yourself painted into a corner!

[rainbow4321]

17. Is this going to be a 3 am announcement??

So as not to cause a ruckus in front of the hospice or the court building?? If they plan on saying put the tube back in and then she has to go back to the hospital, they may not want eighty cameras following the ambulance <along, no doubt w/ news helicopters along for the ride>.

[Renew Deal]

33. it would be fun to see a bunch of white, RW nuts riot

but i doubt it. Hopefully the cops get a few good taser shots in if they do.

[deadparrot]

18. In the middle of the night?

Why would they do that? Why not do it while people are awake?

[rainbow4321]

20. With all the hype, they probably want to

put it out there and then run like hell...think of it this way, they are sparing us from seeing a zillion press conferences from Delay, Frist, and EVERYone else!!

[deadparrot]

21. Maybe...but if this happens,

I'm sure we'll get it all in time. The right-wing freakshow will all get their moment in the sun to flip out.

George and Tom and Bill and Jeb...gotta love it.

[sonicx]

23. less hysteria if it's not overturned?

[deadparrot]

26. Maybe, but wouldn't

all hell break loose tomorrow anyway? Appeals, false outrage (or joy) on the part of the wingnuts, press conferences, etc. It'll all happen...just postponing the inevitable.

[daleo]

24. The parents are sadly delusional

"In court documents, the couple said their daughter began "a significant decline" late Monday. Her eyes were sunken and dark, and her lips and face were dry.

"While she still made eye contact with me when I spoke to her, she was becoming increasingly lethargic," Bob Schindler said in the papers. "Terri no longer attempted to verbalize back to me when I spoke to her." "

[caligirl]

29. The Rt wing nuts should be thrilled she is going to a glorious place

where all is perfect and right. Their own rhetoric says its great. Why are they so afraid of living their cultish ideology to the letter.

[kskiska]

31. If they re-install the tube

there'll be no urgency to act and this thing will go on and on and on for another 15 years.

[Floogeldy]

32. What if they re-install the tube after more brain damage is caused . . .

. . . by malnutrition and dehydration. I am not a medical doctor, and I have no idea whether or not this is possible.

It would just be weird if she ended up worse off that she was before the food and water were removed, like in a coma.

And it would all be the repugs' fault.

[Verve]

35. A coma ? That would be better than what she's in now, a vegetative state,

not worse. Her brain has been replaced with spinal fluid.

[Floogeldy]

38. I don't know how you can say that

The tapes show her with eyes open, holding her head up, and moving it.

Surely, a coma is a medically worse condition.

[JDPriestly]

34. This is only a three judge panel

If it denies the Schindlers' request to reinsert the tube, the Schindlers will certainly try to appeal further as quickly as they can. If it grants the Schindlers' request, the tube will be reinserted, and Michael Schiavo will appeal to the full, or "en banc" court and then try the Supreme Court. Either way, this will probably go as far as the courts allow the appeals to continue, on and on, unless and until God and Mrs. Schiavo take matters into their own hands. Wonder how much money has been spent on lawyers and court costs, etc. by all parties and all interests since this thing began. I'll bet we could have provided some very sick people with some very good health care for that money. What a pity.

[MattP]

37. Attorney for Schindlers

Whatever the result you would think they would have gotten a better attorney for the money they must have in donations, to argue that she will go to purgatory in court is almost laughable and he looks creepy. The way they went after the Judge personally is not going to look good at all.

[Floogeldy]

39. He's damn near psychotic, in my opinion.

!

[JDPriestly]

45. They just want to appear holier than thou.

That's all they care about -- the show, not the substance of their legal arguments.

[Skittles]

40. it has been denied

nt

[kskiska]

41. BREAKING!!! Appeals Court refuses to reinsert feeding tube

Upholds lower court decision.

[msanthrope]

42. Thread here===

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x1334082

[anarchy1999]

43. Easter weekend, just like DeLay promised us all.

Hang tight everyone. We have an Easter Surprise coming up. Tom promised us all. I can't wait.

[Moderator]

46. locking

updated thread here
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