Third Bush in White House?

[stevedeshazer]

Washington - Former US president George HW Bush said in an interview made public on Sunday he was convinced his younger son, Florida Governor Jeb Bush, will not run for president in 2008 to replace elder brother President George W Bush.

Speculation about Jeb Bush's 2008 ambitions were fuelled by his high-profile trip to South Asia in the wake of the December tsunami at the head of a US government delegation, whose task was to assess damage and draft US relief plans.

<snip>

The former president insisted, however, the current Florida governor would make "an outstanding president".

"He knows the issues, he's a strong leader," he said of Jeb Bush.

link: http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0,,2-10-1462_1672392,00.html

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

1. Hell fucking no.

[kris10ep]

2. If so

I will definitely be moving to Canada.

[bluestateguy]

4. Yep. That would probably be enough to send me to Canada too.

I ridiculed the idea last year, but I definently could not take another four years of this Imperial Family in the White House.

[Protagoras]

14. Didn't you get the memo?

We're scheduled to invade Canada during Jeb's second term :P

[captainslack]

29. Get in line behind me! (NT)

[DixieSticks]

94. Ibid

[kypper]

97. Yeah, yeah...

I hear this all the time, but our population is still shrinking :P

[aden_nak]

3. Over my rigid, smoking corpse.

[Ganja Ninja]

5. Good luck trying to clean up Dubya's mess Jeb!

That would be the only reason he won't run. He'll most likely sit back and let the Democrats fix his brother's mess then run in 2012.

[Charles19]

58. I honestly think Repugs will just about give the next election away

they need someone to clean up the fiscal mess before the whole economy tanks, bringing all there businesses down with it.

[dmr]

101. I definitely agree

I'm sure they'll allow (how sad that I said "they'll allow") a Democratic win. The pugs know they need a scapegoat to blame the dismal state our country and world is in.

And, the blind GOP and blind Bush* supporters will vote the 2012 Repubican in - believing the GOP lies that only the GOP can 'correct' the mess that the 2008 Democratic administration created.

Evil, pure evil, these greedy pugs.

They hate Hillary so much, that they will have hard-ons crucifying her.

[Klapaucius]

103. Actually....

I think it will take longer than one term to even come close to fixing Chimpy's f*ck-ups.

K.

[bluedog]

6. after this bush

I doubt very much the public even wants to hear the name bush.......bush the family name thathas destroyed America as we knew it

[Stand and Fight]

13. You really think that?

After the support you have seen thrown to the Bush cartel after this last election? Whether you attribute his win to political machinations or to machine manipulation, George W. Bush is well liked -- unfortunately -- by a sizable amount of people in this country. Those same people hold Bush as a hero and idolize him to an almost cult-like extreme.

[Bo]

35. Kerry lost because he was just a suit

No personality

[saracat]

37. Funny how he was "the charasmatic junior Senator from Massachusetts "

before the election. Bush has NO personality. He is a dolt, yet they talk of the "charm factor". You have the personality the press says you have. John Kerry was never just a suit.

[Conscious Confucius]

52. Kerry lost because he was too intelligent.

Lord knows we wouldn't want somebody that can put thoughts together on his own. Thank you "The South" for your wanting a guy that you can drink a beer with.

[KurtNYC]

55. An "O'Douls" beer at that

[Anakin Skywalker]

77. "Kerry lost because he was too intelligent."

Agreed. Ideally, people like Kerry should be the leaders. But then politics is sadly never about ideals.

[Nicholas D Wolfwood]

87. Welcome to DU!!!!

We're very glad you're on board!! :party: :toast: :grouphug: :bounce:

Oh, and I agree with you completely. The south is like a stubborn child. I think it needs to be spanked. Again.

[Conscious Confucius]

91. Thanks!

I've been reading the forum for a few months now. I've decided it's time to say a few things. I love it here.

[davidinalameda]

69. he does have a personality

he has the personality of a dolt and people do find that charming

Kerry is about as chilly as they come--he's Dukakis with better hair

[Lizzie Borden]

74. Every time someone mentions Bush's "charm factor"...

I just LOL. Come on people, charm factor?

[Anakin Skywalker]

78. Yeah Bushie is charming.

If you are evil just like he is!

[mom cat]

57. Kerry did not lose...the election was stolen. n/t

[Goathead]

20. I have never seen so many "W-04" stickers before

In Loudoun county, Va. I really think that a lot of these people put them on after Bushit "won". Kinda like after the super bowl everyones favorite team becomes whoever won. Americans are so predictable, nobody wants to be a "loser". It's the "We're #1!" mentality.

[Conscious Confucius]

92. I see many Kerry stickers still...

Then again, I am from Minnesota. It was funny to see the Kerry/Edwards stickers appear out of nowhere after Bushie was crushed in the first debate. I literally saw hundreds of signs and stickers overnight.

[ElectroPrincess]

100. Hey, I'm a little south of you but I have the same suspicion ...

Far far more oval type W-O4 stickers on big a**ed SUVs and Picky up trucks now than before the election. I want (oh so bad!) to put equal sized W-WTF stickers on top of the old ones. but hubby says it would be UN-Cool to get arrested. Guess I'll have to behave myself, dammit! ;)

[Goathead]

106. Do it, do it!

Having a police record is soooo "in" right now. ;-) :hi:

[CrispyQ]

7. I don't think Jeb has the 'appeal' that boosh has to the sheeple.

[Stand and Fight]

9. He MAY not, but...

Jeb Bush may not have the same appeal, but he has only to be the anointed leader, the heir apparent, by George the Lesser to get the needed approval. Look -- if Bush gives them marching orders to support his brother, you better believe they will fall in line.

[Anakin Skywalker]

79. Jeb is Taller and Better Looking.

Yes, the sheeple is just that dumb!

[SammyWinstonJack]

98. Better looking than the Chimp really isn't saying much.

IMO they're both, ugly inside and out. :puke:

[Sapphire Blue]

107. A hyena is better looking than that twit-in-chief

[ElectroPrincess]

102. Naw, if Jeb doesn't get a handle about his overeating ...

That is, if Jeb keeps "chowing down" like there's no tomorrow, he may have to go in for "the surgery" before he can make a run at the White house.

I don't know if it's just me but I don't think Jeb looks handsome? Dubya has a "frat boy" aura thingy going for him, but Jeb reminds me of an homely Jethro Bodine. (Max Bear was cute in comparison).

[Tux]

8. New Admendment

That adds new requirments for the office.

1) If your a decendant by 5 generations of a president, you can't run.
2) If you have drug problems in the past, you can't run.
3) You must get at least 100 on an IQ test.

[Sapphire Blue]

66. Add to that amendment....

Psychiatric testing required. If you are any of the following - psychotic, sadistic, paranoid, schizophrenic, delusional, deranged, maniacal, afflicted with a messianic complex or a dry drunk (feel free to add to this list) - you can't run for president.

[Acryliccalico]

86. I agree 100% with you!

:kick:

[DELUSIONAL]

10. Jeb has liabilities -- his wife, his daughter and his religion

However, bushie had liabilities but the snake in the grass press built an image of "super man" for bushie. They could do the same for Jeb-ster.

[TheFarseer]

48. What's wrong with his

wife daughter and religion? I really don't know anything about this.

[DELUSIONAL]

65. daughter is a drug addict -- wife tried to sneak

designer clothes through customs -- and other reasons that I'll leave the the Florida folks to list. I doubt that either would survive a campaign -- but then who knows with the media whores who try to fake being journalists???

His daughter would be in jail for drug charges -- except that her father is Jeb.

He converted to his wife's religion when they married -- this wouldn't please gw-bushie's fundie supporters.

[ronnykmarshall]

72. So he's one of them "Cathylicks", huh?

[MisterP]

75. money's flooding into Fla. but everything's going into the toilet

nonetheless, 'coz privatization simply vacuums it all into Repubs' pockets. Same all over the South--porer and porer.
That, in fact, is one of the biggest secrets of modern politics.

[Conscious Confucius]

93. The only problem with his daughter being a drug addict is...

that Jeb himself isn't a drug addict. Those are the qualities we seek for the Executive Branch!

[nookiemonster]

11. "He knows the issues, he's a strong leader," he said of Jeb Bush

Yeah, and your daughter's a CRACK WHORE!

Get your own house in order first, douchebag.

Putz.

[Stand and Fight]

18. No, you're wrong.

Jeb's daughter, Noelle Bush, is a cocaine addict. She is the elder Bush's grand daughter -- not his daughter. Lastly, let's not spread lies and filth on here, because that is the sort of crap the Republicans pull... I've never seen an article of her being a prostitute for the purpose of obtaining crack... :evilgrin: Seriously though, I haven't...

[Bridget Burke]

105. Noelle has been kept under wraps....

She got out of Rehab a couple of years ago & I haven't seen a word about her in the press. So--is she doing better, or are they letting her go to Hell in a private, more discreet fashion?

No recent words about the Bush twins, either. No jobs, no grad school, no volunteer work....

[GOPBasher]

12. I wouldn't mind him getting the nomination.

He'd be easy to beat, IMO. He's not the politician his brother is. Face it, Dubya has that charm that could make people like him even as he pisses in their faces. Jeb doesn't have that, at least as far as I can see.

[Protagoras]

16. I thought exactly the same thing about that 3 time loser,

coke head, business bankrupting son that has ran the last 2 times...so I'm no longer so secure in casual dismissals of obvious incompetence.

[GOPBasher]

17. Yeah, that's true. But still ...

if they nominate someone like Jeb, Bill Frist, or (please, please, God!) Newt Gingrich, I'm pretty sure we'd win in the general election (provided a true counting of the votes).

[Protagoras]

22. "True Counting"

now there's the rub.

[iamjoy]

38. Jeb is No Dubya

I mean, Dubya managed to defeat Ann Richards, a very popular incumbent governor.

Jeb was defeated in his first run by Lawton Chiles. He ran again and defeated Buddy McKay, very wussy looking man with no charisma. He was re-elected by defeating Bill McBride - another good ol' boy who may have had a lot on the ball, but in the debates, Jeb looked like the smarter one.

[drdtroit]

23. "He'd be easy to beat, IMO"

Oh, I'm sorry, I must have missed the election reforms that guarantee a "FAIR" election.

[GOPBasher]

27. Yep, I address that in another post. I mean that

I think we'd beat him *if* we can get a fair election, i.e. a true counting of the votes.

[drdtroit]

33. Word! n/t

[Laurab]

61. They do say dubya has charm

I've never quite understood it myself. I don't find his smirk, his arrogance - well, I don't find anything about him charming, and I can't understand how anyone can. It's frightening to me that people think he has charm.

Anyway, George Sr. says Jeb doesn't want to run, so it probably means he will. Personally, I agree with whoever said the bush name will be destroyed by junior. If he continues as he is, he will hang himself with his own arrogance.

[GOPBasher]

84. Dubya fools people.

To me, it's obvious that he's being fake. But somehow, he fools most people. I don't know how. If I got this smirk every time I lied, most people would realize I'm lying. But I guess he gets a pass because he's in with the Falwell crowd, whom we know are just so godly.

[chicagojoe]

15. There are two reasons why Jeb WON'T

occupy the White House.

1. The eventual backlash against W(imp).
2. I believe that there are Americans who are courageous enough to take the actions necessary to "guarantee" that another Bush will never soil the White House.

[0007]

24. Plus his wife is a cheat a liar and a thief and his children

are dopers and peeking toms.

[teakee]

95. Jeb and Dubya's kids--100% for having being arrested.

chips off the old blocks.

[shanti]

31. never underestimate the power

of the electronic voting machines!!!

[raccoon]

85. I only hope you're right about that.

It'll shock the socks off me if Jeb doesn't get the nomination, though. Hopefully he won't win.

[skeeters]

19. If We Survive

If we can survive the second Bush, which is a big, Maybe. And of course as ususal, their will have to be a Democrat in between to bring down the defecits and bring America out of the slime.

They can't run Jeb. Who would steal Florida? The third Bush in the White House will be Jenna. With a brainwashed Religious base and a media that is bought and paid for. You think I'm wrong. Poor Barbara seems like she actually could have a brain. She will stand no chance.

[drdtroit]

21. GOD HELP US!!! n/t

[zbdent]

25. Funny how these Repuke types start their presidential campaigns

(especially the Bushes) with "I have no desire to seek the presidency . . ."

W

Arnold

Jeb

Didn't Reagan, before throwing his hat into the ring for 76 claim that also?

[Blackthorn]

26. IF, there's an election in 2008.

And even if there is, they could nominate a brick and he'd still piss it in as long as they count the votes.

[stevedeshazer]

53. Bingo!

When Poppy Bush says Jeb ain't runnin....

[anarchy1999]

28. My first thought as I surfed through the threads was "Oh, Happy Day"!

Anyone here surprised, after Jeb we get the nephew. Let's talk 4 in a row.

[Drifter]

30. If Poppy said it won't happen ...

then you can take it to the bank (Jeb is running). He is a fucking liar (like every Bush). They just don't want to put Jebs weenie on the chopping block too early.

Cheers
Drifter

[RamboLiberal]

32. Jebbie's the reason my ABB sticker is still on my car

I was going to take it off - then decided the hell with it, I'll keep it on just in case the BFEE tries to run Jebbie.

[booksenkatz]

34. I'm cynical enough to believe that there's a % of voters in 2000

who voted for Gee-Duhb simply because of the cachet of having a son-of-a-president for president. Because it'd be cool. And for no other reason than that. So you can bet your ass that there would be a similar % of voters in 2008 who would think it'd be way-mega-super-dee-duper-awesome cool to have a second son-of-a-president for president.

I'd love to know how many voters truly follow policy to any degree whatsoever.

[bmbmd]

36. It's a sad state of affairs when all you have to look forward to

is a smarter Bush in the White House. I can hardly wait to sweep George out and install Jebbers.

[w4rma]

39. A more devious Bush. (nt)

[BiggJawn]

40. Only if Howard's stupid enough to run Hillary.

If thre Democratic Party picks Senator Hillary Clinton for their candidate....

"I, Jebediah bush, do solemnly swear...."

[The_Counsel]

60. Actually, Jeb's Real Name Is...

...John Ellis Bush. "Jeb" is his initials morphed into a name (how lame is that?).

I do see your point, though. I like Hillary and all, but I actually pray that she never even TRIES for the Dem nomination...

[BiggJawn]

62. They'll CHANGE it to "Jebediah"

Karl's already planning that, to get the "NASCAR Dad" vote.
"Hay, Cooter! Jeb Bush's got a creepy Rebel name laik me!"

"Yew sed it, Nicodemus!"

I admire Hillary and everything (don't agree with her 100%) but it would be the STUPIDEST thing in the world to run her agains any horse Karl Rove puts into the race.

[LizW]

41. No, Poppy is right. Not in 2008.

Jeb will come later. They need someone else in between to blame everything on. I used to think they wanted a Democrat in that spot (a weak one) but we have swung so much to the right I now think they'll install a "moderate" Republican. Then they'll blame him for all the bad effects of everything George did and he'll decline to run for a second term and Jebbie will run as the Second Coming.

[Minstrel Boy]

42. "I've unleashed the Bush family on America." - GHW Bush, 1988

"In the Dukakis debate in 1988 Bush put it like a last comment while he's grinning and he said, 'I've unleashed the Bush family on America.' That has always been my image of this family, steeped in corruption, crime, and fascism that has taken over machinery of the country. " - John Judge

http://www.ratical.org/ratville/JFK/JohnJudge/112600.html

[yorkiemommie1]

56. and shameless

.. and proud of it all.

[teakee]

96. yeah, and bin Laden has Poppy's number.

Sickening when a terrorist sees through a crooked family before their own citizens do. :scared:

[AngryWhiteLiberal]

43. It's time for an ANTI-NEPOTISM addition to the Constitution.

I'm sick of familial powers running our government. It's time to limit the number of immediate family members that can run for office, in an effort to limit political dynasties (this includes the Clintons).

America was formed, in part, as a reaction to monarchical power structures, and it's about time we returned to our roots...

JB

[foo_bar]

51. yeah, not to mention they're all named George

[stevedeshazer]

81. Yes, and there's George P waiting for his chance

[Anakin Skywalker]

80. Hey, Great Point.

This whole son of a pres becoming pres is starting to look a bit monarchistic. We need new blood. Fresh blood. We need a real MAN (OR WOMAN, hey I am all for a female pres.) FROM THE PEOPLE!

[Rainscents]

44. I think, THUGS are going to let the Democrat win the WH in 08

So, they can blame everything on Dems...

[dryan]

45. I hope he runs....

can just see the press release....

daughter is a junkie, escaped from a drug rehab hospital

former business partner is incognito, cannot return to the United States

wife was stopped by US Customs after a shopping spree to Paris and lied to a Customs agent --I think that it's called "smuggling" folks

former running mate (Tom Feeney) suggested Florida succeed from the union....

rigged 2000 election.
the list is endless

[genieroze]

46. No way

:puke:

[bullimiami]

47. and hes a real bush.

a heartless amoral bastard that has no problem killing to get what he wants, pandering to his rich pals and spouting lies.

[Career Prole]

49. F*%# you, Poppy.

And the Nazi money you rode in on.

[kskiska]

50. I doubt Jeb's marriage will last long enough

They don't even live together. Poppy must be paying the wife off to stay married for the sake of his career. Jeb may have to wait till 2012, when he's safely esconced in his second marriage and the kids are gone.

[chickenscratching]

54. oh god...

i can just see it now...hillary vs. jeb in 2008! another douche and turd election....

[daleo]

59. It may take a revolution (like the French) to get rid of this family.

It looks like the Bush's are bringing back monarchy. How long until one of them says "let the poor eat cake". No wonder Republicans hate the French so much.

If I recall correctly, Jebbie is the one who was first a card carrying member of PNAC too.

[aquart]

63. Hope this gives Frist indigestion.

So many hopefuls waiting for Georgie to go.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

64. How could Jebbie be the pres when we all should know that GWHB....

...will announce after the next (pre-planned) terrorist attack that he is Pres for Life?

[maggiecleveland]

67. No way is US ready for that far of Nepotism...

can't see it happening...maybe the young kid in 2032 or so....

[Khaotic]

68. Dubya Isn't Going Anywhere

The 22nd Amendment will be revoked ... probably by the 110th Congress after the e-voting machines let the Neocons smash the Democrats in '06.

The neocons will revoke the 22nd amendment, as well as amending the constitution to allow a foreign born person to run as pres or vice-pres.

Mark my words on this one.

Dubya isn't going away. The PNAC will not give up their God and muppet.

Look for a Bush/Schwarzenegger ticket in '08.

Bookmark this prediction now.

Sadly, there are many sheeple that will wet their pants on the very thought of such a ticket.

Bush has aligned himself with too many things that people identify themselves with. I don't think the Neocons will give that up.

The 22nd Amendment will not last till '08 ... mark my type.

[ikri]

89. Republicans will never allow the body-builder-in-chief to run...

They know that if Arnold gets to run for president/vice-president then he'll find himself up against Jerry Springer (born in the UK).

Arnie wouldn't stand a chance against Springer. The presidential debates would be hilarious to watch however :)

[Khaotic]

70. 22nd Amendment on Chopping Block NOW

The 22nd Amendment is on the chopping block now.

There are ALREADY 2 bills from the 109th Congress pushing to repeal the 22nd Amendment:

H. J. RES. 24:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/C?c109:./temp/~c109mdDvTf

and

H.J. Res. 9:

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c109:H.J.RES.9.IH:

The only thing that has stopped the 22nd Amendment from being repealed to date have been the Repubs, but if it comes up for vote ... they will flip flop and vote to repeal it this time.

Wait and watch.

My gut feeling truly is that Shrub WILL be running again in '08. Pathetic, but true.

[Khaotic]

71. Better Links ...

H. J. RES. 24:

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=109_cong_bills&docid=f:hj24ih.txt.pdf

H. J. RES. 9:

http://frwebgate.access.gpo.gov/cgi-bin/getdoc.cgi?dbname=109_cong_bills&docid=f:hj9ih.txt.pdf

[Trish1168]

73. Doubt he'll run......he broke with the religious freaks

on a Florida constitutional amendment to ban gay marriage. This was the surest way to know that he was serious when he said "No".

I think his big brother would like to hand little Jeb the reins of facism. I think his family and persona life would cause him problems in the national spotlight.

[Anakin Skywalker]

76. How Many More Bushes

do you need to f**k up this country? :mad:

[Massacure]

82. Jeb is hated in Florida, he has a snowballs chance in hell of winning.

There are other much more dangerous republicans out there.

[stevedeshazer]

88. If Florida hates him so much,

How did he get elected Governor twice?

[wisteria]

83. I don't want to see a Bush dynasty!

The two Presidents Bush we have had are quite enough. If there isn't a current law restricting the number of members of one family who can run for a become president there aught to be. Another Bush presidency would be ridiculous.

[Acryliccalico]

90. Who are we kidding

they will put in who they want!!! They own us!!! It doesn't matter what the person has done in the past or what we think (look at *, he did drugs , he lies, he has no moral values) if they want it 'it will be'. Covering up and twisting things to suit themselves is their greatest ability. Doing things they want without "WE THE PEOPLE" involved is what they do. I know I sound cynical but that is how I feel. "WE THE PEOPLE" do not exist. Remember, they are writing the pages and leaving us to have to live with those pages. Didn't they say that they are creating their vision and by the time we get there it is already history? If they want jeb they will get him in. Voting is just a pacifier they have given us so we believe we have a say. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY SAY!!! All they want from us is for us to "GO SHOPPING".:kick:

[BreweryYardRat]

99. Fuck no!

I live in Florida. Jeb is one of the worst, if not THE worst, governors we've ever had.

I will fucking fight, campaign, and speak out till I drop before I let Jeb or any Bush take the White House in '08.

SIC SEMPER TYRANNIS! I know you guys know what that means...

[Acryliccalico]

104. Welcome to DU seawolf

sapere aude.
sah,olure or sine dubio. :hi: :kick: