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RawMaterials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:37 PM
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"Dangerous" global warming possible by 2026-WWF
OSLO, Jan 30 (Reuters) - World temperatures could surge in just two decades to a threshold likely to trigger dangerous disruptions to the earth's climate, the WWF environmental group said on Sunday.
It said the Arctic region was warming fastest, threatening the livelihoods of indigenous hunters by thawing the polar ice-cap and driving species like polar bears towards extinction by the end of the century.
World temperatures have already risen by about 0.7C since 1750 with most scientists blaming a build-up of heat-trapping gases like carbon dioxide emitted by burning fossil fuels in factories, power plants and cars.

The European Union and many other environmental groups say that governments should cap emissions of greenhouse gases to try to prevent a 2.0C temperature rise. The United States has rejected binding caps under the U.N.'s Kyoto protocol

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He told Reuters his study was based on a review of climate models used by the U.N. climate panel in its latest 2001 report. Another international report last week said that rising temperatures were a ticking time bomb for the climate.
Others scientists say that such projections are scaremongering and reckon temperatures will rise far less sharply, if at all, because of the buildup of greenhouse gases.
New's study projected that the Arctic would warm by 3.2-6.6C if the globe warmed by 2.0C overall.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L29659920.htm
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mr_hat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:39 PM
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1. Pffft! Who cares what a bunch of pro wrestlers think?
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Nitrogenica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:40 PM
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2. lols
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RawMaterials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:42 PM
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3. Can ya digit were all gonna die but the US is the only
ones who don't care. oh ya can ya digit? I can.

Bush "no i wont sign that keota trety, my daddy says it would be bad for business"
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:23 PM
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11. So is not being able to grow food
or trying to keep warm during a global Ice age. Massive forest die offs aren't great for the timber industry, either, and dead oceans don't do much for fisheries. Lack of oxygen and the death of the human species can also cut into profits.

50 years, Tops. Personally, I expect only 20-30.
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RawMaterials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:26 PM
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12. everyone always asks me when i think that man
is going to destroy it self with nuclear weapons or what not.
I always say that the world will destroy man before man destroys itself.
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BrightKnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:44 PM
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13. What did James Watt say?
Something like: It doesn't matter because I won't be around to worry about it.

---------

Perhaps the religious wrong wants to expedite Armageddon.
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:59 PM
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8. Damn beat me to it
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:20 PM
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10. The World Wildlife Fund
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 11:20 PM by Lorien
and why do EVERY ONE of these global warming threads get filled up with cute, flippant remarks? Terrorism scares the shit out of most people on DU, while environmental collapse gets a yawn or a few jokes? Eating, breathing..yeah, sure, who needs it? Kids, it's going to happen IN OUR LIFETIMES. Make it an issue NOW with your reps, otherwise, you will certainly live to regret it.
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Voltaire99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:41 AM
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16. We must study more pro wrestlers before drawing any hasty conclusions (nt)
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:45 PM
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4. Global Warming vs. Armageddon
Just as the Fundamentalists turned evolution into intelligent design, they're now attempting to turn global warming into Armageddon.

From here on out, it's going to be difficult to separate the science from the insanity.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:51 PM
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5. Predictions are tricky to make
Since the process of global warming itself is accelerating, most of the predictions made since about 1990 have had to be moved up. For instance, nobody thought the ice pack on Greenland would ever shrink as fast as it has.

The interruption of the thermohaline current is also a problem; if and when it is impeded by lower-salinity water from the runoff water, it will result in a little ice age that could easily run into the real thing. The north will re-freeze, but more of the heat energy will go into the weather and the equatorial ocean. That will bring an era of severe winter blizzards to the Northern Hemisphere, with shorter, hotter, stormier summers.

But the real danger is the potential loss to agriculture. Any of these factors would change the weather in the world's "breadbaskets". A severe-enough disruption would cause the era to be better remembered for famine than for blizzards.

I think the process is inevitable at this point; but we still have a lot of choice in how we'll handle it. Mass death and destruction is not inevitable. All we need is a generation of intelligent, altruistic, and visionary leaders who can avoid being assassinated.

So, no, it's not looking too good right now.

--p!
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RawMaterials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:55 PM
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6. Just like the movie -hu
funny how movie seam to imitate real life and predict the future with other events.
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Dogmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:01 PM
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9. The Day After Tomorrow -- ?
Well, it was a tad overblown, and condensed a decade-long process into a month's time, but the overall idea was there.

NYC probably won't be ice-locked before a full Ice Age sets in, but I'd still keep an extra bag of driveway salt handy.

--p!
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mordarlar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:58 PM
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7. what the heck does the World Wrestling Federation know about warming lol
:+
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:20 AM
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14. Question: Is there anyone the U.S. will listen to? Seriously.
Unfortunately the U.N. and EU (mentioned above) are probably guaranteed to elicit nothing but derisiveness on this issue.

Groups of scientists have banded together to write letters begging the administration to do something, to no avail.

Anyone even remotely associated with the left and/or "environmental wackos" is out.

Is there any group, any country, any advisor that could get the message across to those in charge? The right religious figure or corporation, perhaps? Anyone?

I think this is one of the crucial things we need to figure out.

-wildflower
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al bupp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:31 AM
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15. The Evidence for Climate Change Is Compelling
Here's some more evidence of the simple fact of climate change, not coming in the future, but right now:

"Glaciers are shrinking in a warming world"

http://www.climateark.org/articles/reader.asp?linkid=38...

Chacaltaya was once the world's highest ski slope. But no one has skied down its tongue of snow-coated ice since 1998. The melt has exposed rock right across its midsection, splitting the glacier in two.

It covers an area of less than 15 acres, with ice less than 26 feet thick. Ramirez said it lost two-thirds of its mass in the 1990s alone, and is now probably a mere 2 percent the size it once was.
<snip>
What we see in the Andes is happening in Kilimanjaro and in the Himalayas. We've just been in southeast Alaska, and 1,987 out of 2,000 glaciers are retreating there," the Ohio State University scientist said in a telephone interview from Columbus.


The canary's singing, but do we hear it?
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RawMaterials Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:56 AM
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17. Europe has all ready notice the change
and they are just as worried about it as well.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 08:10 AM
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22. No, Al ...
The canary's singing, but do we hear it?

We don't hear it. And I want to get off this planet and go live with some species that really does care about the world on which they reside.
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wildflower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 09:57 AM
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23. Sadly, they don't. What will they listen to? (See my post above.) n/t
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zwielicht Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 03:03 AM
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18. Related thread from earlier today: Oil firms fund climate change denial
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 06:54 AM
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19. shaking my head
I just don't get it -- bushies discount information as "junk science" and refuse to believe in it dispite the mounting real evidence

yet they will defend "creation doctrine" even though it's all based on pure faith and belief
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 07:05 AM
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20. "The other night I tripped at Knox..."
Edited on Sun Jan-30-05 07:06 AM by Cooley Hurd
Continental drift divide
Mountains sit in a line
Leonard Bernstein
Leonid Brezhnev
Lenny Bruce and Lester Banks
Birthday party, cheesecake, jelly bean, boom!
You Symbiotic, patriotic, slam book neck, right?
Right!

It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it
It's the end of the world as we know it
and I feel fine...


It's time I had some time alone... ;)
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Cooley Hurd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 08:09 AM
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21. I don't want anyone to think I'm making light of this most serious subject
...but, for some reason, this song pops into my head every time I read a story like this... :(
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:55 AM
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24. Our ignorance of the fragility of Mother Earth
and those little pesky microbes will get the Human race in the end.

Excellent song to sing as we head for the Exit doors!
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