Fox News host slams CBC documentary

[CHIMO]

TORONTO - Fox News commentator Bill O'Reilly has lashed out at a CBC documentary featuring guests who were highly critical of his show.

The Fifth Estate's website says the documentary examines the "war of words that's pitting conservative against liberal."

"It's loud, it's raucous, but does it have anything to do with the truth?" the site asks about the new kind of hard-hitting political debate on U.S. television.

Journalists, media watchers and other talk show hosts in the documentary took aim at the O'Reilly Factor and show's relationship with the truth.

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2005/01/29/orei...

[Newsjock]

1. Has anyone put the whole 'Fifth Estate' video online?

I want to direct folks to it, but all I've found so far is the clip with Coulter.

[warrens]

5. I looked for it too

Evidently, they sell videos for some pretty fancy bucks, and not for at least two weeks after the broadcast. Same for a written transcript. So unless someone taped it and launched it themselves, it ain't available.

[Tuttle]

33. try this

http://www.newzbin.com/browse/post/991994 /

If you know how to navigate binary newsgroups, it appears there is a Divx copy of this episode (Sticks and Stones) available.

Tut-tut

[Ruby Romaine]

79. try crooksandliars

http://www.crooksandliars.com
has some links & a transcript

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[warrens]

2. WAAAAAAH, the COMMIES are being MEAN to me

Here, Bill, have a falafel.

[radfringe]

83. Hey Bill!

How much Pundit-Payola money went into your wallet? What's the going rate these days for boot-licking? Do you get a bonus for butt-kissing too?

[paineinthearse]

3. I feel like I am living in 1960 Poland....

...and the CBC is our "Radio Free Europe". Thank you, CBC!

[DBoon]

7. In Poland, you could secretly listen to Radio Free Europe

Via shortwave.

Now tell me how can I get the CBC on television here in the US? DirecTV? Dish Network?

[Newsjock]

9. Here's how

Now tell me how can I get the CBC on television here in the US? DirecTV? Dish Network?
http://global-cm.net/CAN/canadiansolution.html

Links to a commercial site. I'm not a customer, but I've achieved similar results independently.

[w4rma]

15. Star Choice satellite? Dish and DirecTV don't carry the CBC? (nt)

[Newsjock]

16. Nope

It's all about international licensing and broadcast rights. CBC programs sometimes show up later on U.S. networks -- such as "An American In Canada," for instance, getting aired on some PBS stations recently.

There are several discussion forums and old Usenet discussions about the practicalities of getting Canadian TV in the USA, and thousands of people do (by paying full monthly fees to the satellite companies, not by hacking), but this is probably not the place to be talking about such things. Hello, Agent Rick!

[w4rma]

19. It would be nice if Canada did a CBC International, like the BBC and CNN

have. They could then market it to US companies and it would help get some alternate viewpoints down here.

The CBC has the potential of becoming the BBC for this side of the globe if the Canadian people and the Canadian government endorse that policy.

[Newsjock]

22. They did

Newsworld International, till Al Gore et al. bought it.
http://www.nwitv.com

Still shows The National every night, though. It's on many digital cable systems if you pay for the proper tier of service.

But it's for news only, not entertainment programming. And some of the CBC's comedy shows (Air Farce, 22 Minutes) have been exceptionally harsh on Chimpy and Co.

[w4rma]

37. Newsworld International was privately owned and not run

by the Canadian government as the CBC is.

Started by CBC in 1994, and most recently owned by Vivendi Universal, Newsworld International is available in about 17 million U.S. homes. The channel has had several owners since it was started. U.S. cable mogul Barry Diller bought it about three years ago and later sold out to Vivendi.
http://www.cbc.ca/stories/2004/05/04/business/goreNWI_0...

Nonetheless, Vivendi was planning to sell to General Electric, who was also bidding, if INdTV hadn't bought the company.

[lasttrip]

68. we get it as a local basic cable channel in upstate western NY.

caught the last half hour of the program. very good. watched CBC and CTV throughout elections. no comparison to US corp media.

[Name removed]

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[Spazito]

40. ROFLMAO

Pravda???? My goodness, unlike US media outlets which are eerily similar to Pravda lately, the CBC dares to actually report the news and not follow the bush propaganda or dull the minds of their citizens with infotainment.

I can only assume you have not watched CBC given it is (gasp) from that nasty old country called Canada.

[mahina]

41. Never having seen it it's hard to answer that question...

What lead you to your impression?

[salin]

42. Ten years ago, or so, I got the CBC by antenna (in Michigan)

news didn't seem terribly biased back then. And I got to watch a young Kurt Browning win all his world championships (somehow he always froze, however, during the olympics.) I have never heard anyone refer to CBC as pravda. Then again, perhaps they have changed over the years?

[Spazito]

43. Here's a link to CBC's news site so...

you can judge for yourself. Be sure to click on the In Depth links to see how CBC reports on various subjects, you will soon see it is the furthest thing from Pravda.

http://www.cbc.ca/news /

[Newsjock]

44. Watch The National online ...

... and decide for yourself

http://cbc.ca/national
including a segment on Texas troopers in British Columbia pulling over Canadian drivers (skip to 15:10 to see this) -- and the O'Reilly reaction segment immediately follows at 17:30.

[Bozita]

74. That's the newscast currently online

Loved the O'Really segment.

[0007]

90. Thank you Newsjock for the link

My take Canada won't go for O'Reilly and FAUX News like the mindless here in the U.S.

[Voltaire99]

80. CBC is available on US digital cable via Newsworld Intl.

And superior in all ways to US network news. The channel also carries European and Asian broadcasts.

[Minstrel Boy]

97. I wish US viewers could receive everything the CBC offers.

A lot of excellent programming, like The Fifth Estate and The Passionate Eye, are not carried on Newsworld International.

[AtTheEndOfTheDay]

47. ourselves?

Crack me up.

[LynnTheDem]

82. heh.

Wasn't just me noticed, huh.

[Tsiyu]

94. Yeah, that "ourselves" gave me a chuckle

Got a mouse in your pocket, friend?

[tsuki]

48. I lived in Canada for five years, and unless there has been a great

change, I found that the CBC and Fifth Estate should be a model for American Broadcasting. No yelling, screaming, lying. Sure it is a Canadian show with a Canadian POV, but not so much so that it will lie, cheat and slander as does such outlets like Australian Murdock News.

[tinanator]

73. what you mean we, white man?

you have a rock in your pocket?
I think you mistyped Ham as Dem.

[LynnTheDem]

81. ROTFLMAO!!! CBC = PRAVDA????!!! LOL!!!

That's HILARIOUS!

Also incredibly & totally WRONG.

But HILARIOUS!

[Bertrand]

85. Re: "cbc?"

Dont mind some of the rude and untactful responses, Virginia Dem.

The CBC isnt like Pravda. While it is a crown corporation, it's about as autonomous and politically balanced as you can get for a mainstream media outlet it the Western World - including the private corporations which govern the American media. It does reflect the Canadian POV, which is more "left wing" than the American political system, but it isn't a propaganda arm of the gov't.

[The Zanti Regent]

86. Now now Virginia Dem, get it RIGHT...

The Wall Street Journal IS PRAVDA,
The New York Times IS PRAVDA.
The Washington Post IS PRAVDA
The Washington Times IS PRAVDA
The Chicago Fibune IS PRAVDA
The Lies Angeles Times IS PRAVDA
The Atlanta KKKonstitution IS PRAVDA
U$A Today IS PRAVDA
The New Republican magazine IS PRAVDA
TIMid Magazine IS PRAVDA
US News and World DISTORT is PRAVDA
NEWSPEAK Magazine IS PRAVDA
National Petroleum Radio IS PRAVDA
The rePublican Bias System IS PRAVDA
the Conservative Biased System IS PRAVDA
the Always Been Conservative Network IS PRAVDA
the Nothing But Conservative Network IS PRAVDA
KKKlear Channel IS PRAVDA
Infinity Bias IS PRAVDA
the Conservative News Network IS PRAVDA
Micro$hit Nothing But Conservatives IS PRAVDA
FUCKS SNOOZE is IZVESTIA

Radio Free America is Pacifica at http://www.pacifica.org

[Ruby Romaine]

75. you'll have to move to Detroit!!!!! :-)

That the really great thing about South-east Michigan, we are only 45 min from Windsor, Ontario & get CBC radio & TV!

They also have some wonderful political comedy shows-

This Hour has 22 Minutes
&
Royal Canadian Air Farce
&
Rick Mercer's Monday Report

[dkofos]

18. directv chan 366

[DBoon]

20. That carries some CBC news programs

We rely on 366 a lot for news, but it doesn't seem to have a lot of CBC features.

[Bouncy Ball]

30. I know DirectTV carries it

on World Link TV channel or International News Journal.

[rodeodance]

8. I saw some of O'Reilly' rant last night. His blood pressure was way up

[cali]

4. I loved it

Fifth Estate is a great show, and they did a masterful job depicting Fox pundit BOR and Coulter as the shrill and hateful lowlife they are.

[mhr]

6. This Stuff Just Further Enrages His Viewers And Keeps Them Watching

eom

[rodeodance]

10. I suspect some Canadians will be like the US-listening to Fox now.

[Skittles]

28. is the market for ignorant, hateful people as big in Canada

as it is here?

[Mr_Spock]

36. IGNORANT HATEFUL PEOPLE - ain't it the truth, ain't it the truth

Jealous humanophobic freaks - just leave the rest of us alone!! Why must these psychotic paranoid talk show people keep up their attempt at dividing and ultimately destroying our country?

[Fitzgibbon]

54. Not so big but there's some truly self-loathing Canadians that

lick this kind of stuff up.

[Skittles]

59. it's when they become organized they get dangerous, Fitz

howdy and welcome to the DU!

[Fitzgibbon]

67. They mostly hang out on freedominion.ca

Feel free to check it out (though don't be surprised if you get a quick boot off the board )

[Skittles]

72. I live in Texas

alas, I don't need to go looking for the

[Hoping4Change]

93. Anyone who believes that is to be pitied. You have niether eyes to see or

ears to hear. What is it like to be living in a tight, closed dark world of fear? Your time would be better spent reading "Anti-Intellectualism in American" by Richard Hofstadder but you would never do it because it would be too threatening. Ameericans love freedom when it comes to money but threatened by anything intellectual.

[Tsiyu]

95. All two of them?

It's good to keep those two occupied and out of trouble. Watching O'Liely's show keeps 'em off the streets.

[Nitrogenica]

11. War of words?!......Or propaganda vs. truth

[NYC Liberal]

12. Go tell it to the PARIS BUSINESS REVIEW, Bill!

[Newsjock]

13. Ohdear, there's a website now!

a regular laff riot
http://www.parisbusinessreview.com /

If the Billo Boycott extends itself to Canada, The Paris Business Review anticipates nothing less than financial armageddon. Particularly troubling is the possibility that beavers, in an effort to cut costs, may resort to building dams with substandard materials.

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[Gabi Hayes]

17. get your paris BR mugs today

[Darth_Kitten]

24. What are those in your signature line?

Those are cute.....

[daleo]

55. They are reminiscent of Bosch, Hieronymus

The Garden of Earthly Delights, I would say (right wing). Bird headed monster and some others, too.

http://www.ibiblio.org/wm/paint/auth/bosch/delight/

[Bozita]

70. Outstanding! ... LMAO ... Thanks

[Downtown Hound]

14. I don't get why this is striking such a nerve with O'Reilly

After all, he's been through the Franken incident, he's regularly torn apart on Media Matters, the movie Outfoxed has come out, why is this so different for him? Maybe it's because this is a potentially new audience he's trying to reach? I don't know.

[dkofos]

23. Could be his short attention span,

and his penchant for lying.

[rodeodance]

25. O'Reily has a 'thing" about Canada-and he is not shy about yelling his

viewpoints.

[Brundle_Fly]

21. okay I saw the documentary

and it was fine, it was unbiased, and was very much like an outfoxed light, re: less conspiracy slanted. It referred to the talking points of the day memos of FNC, and wasn't exlusively on fox or O'reilly.

There was an interview with Ann Coulter that made her look like the whole thing was a competition, left versus right, and also looked that there was nothing to do with "truth" rather she made it seem like whomever had a louder voice was "winning" but she always does that.

There was lots of clips of O'Reilly dissing canada, and explaining how he'd put a ban on buying canadian products, like he did to the french, and how effective that was, so canada better worry. So they looked at trade with France and saw that the US is actually buying 5% more french products while the french are buying much less after Bill's ban on the french products.

I really don't see why Bill has his knickers in a twist over this one, it was basically facts, and clips of him and other conservatives, making claims they could prove to be false.

They also looked at the left wing loud machine and it's build up over the last few years, or how donahue was cancelled for being liberal...

and how major corporations stand to gain by slanting the news, and what they ignore in coverage compared to other countries less biased news stations.

Bill called this Propoganda, but it is pretty clear he is the one who is in fear of being exposed.

[rodeodance]

27. So Bill on the "Propaganda" language! reverse of course

[Wrinkle_In_Time]

29. Ooooh, just wait for the next John Doyle or Heather Mallick...

...column in the Globe & Mail (www.globeandmail.com ). I'm sure they won't be able to resist tweaking O'Reilly over this.

He really needs to check his meds.

[Fitzgibbon]

57. Wonder if the meds come from a Canadian Internet Pharmacy?

Who knows? He might be getting rat poison!

[Spazito]

60. Nope, probably from Merck...

and we all know how good their drugs are, eh!

[dkofos]

32. O-liely always calls truth propaganda.

[Boswells_Johnson]

53. And they shut Ann Coulter down, too! (Re: Canada's (un) participation

in Viet Nam). That was beautiful

[Skittles]

26. HA HA, HA HA HA HA

republican WHORES cannot STAND it when you QUESTION their METHODS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Eric J in MN]

31. Fox News is now in Canada.

So much for liberal values to the north.


"The Fox News Channel is the highest-rated news network in the United States. In mid-December, Rogers Communications announced it had added Fox to its all-digital channel lineup, becoming the first in Canada to do so."

[Wrinkle_In_Time]

35. "So much for liberal values to the north"

Yeah, FNC is on the lineup. So is Al Jazeera. Unless you can quote how many people have signed up for FNC, your statement is premature (or immature).

If you thought that Canada was some sort of liberal utopia without a single right-wing asshole, you are naïve.

[Spazito]

38. Faux is subscription only....

so it's audience is very limited at best. I suspect it's popularity will match, oh, lets say, a macrame channel would. Faux has to abide by OUR CRTC standards which do no allow lying so I suspect they won't last long anyway.

[elare]

61. It showed up on my dish ...

I suppose it's included in one of the packages I already subscribe to. I noticed it on Christmas Eve (worse Christmas "present" ever). Until last night, I hadn't watched it ... but tuned into O'Reilly because I just knew he'd be going nuts about The Fifth Estate. Well, turns out I fell asleep before his rant came on. So there's the impact that screaming idiots on TV have on this particular Canadian.

[Spazito]

62. January is a freebe month, we are getting them all

only until Jan 31st, then they go back to subscription only, thank goodness.

[Fitzgibbon]

58. If it's any consolation, the CRTC (Canadian Radio and Television

Commission)issued a license for Fox News Canada a few years back and even with having to originate some cheap talking-heads programs to fill their Canadian Content (aka CanCon) requirements, they weren't willing to try to chance it. So, they fall back on an American import with no Canadian input (except when Billy boy spouts-off about us)

Tee hee. Too sweet!

[SnowBack]

34. The right wingers in Alberta are drooling for Fox...

..... But the CBC is head and shoulders above Faux News...

A boycott of Canada won't go too far... Considering Canada is America's largest trading partner... And under free trade things go back and forth freely...

[chenGOD]

88. There are right-wingers all across Canada...

I'm sick of Albertans getting stereotyped as "right-wingers".

The right-wingers all across Canada are drooling for Fox. Well just drooling really.

[stepnw1f]

45. "TRIES" to slam

Sorry. The heading is an obvious attempt to counter Fox's ridicule.

[against all enemies]

46. Bill o'Reilly is an idiot, with a show for idiots. Jerry Springer could

kick his ass in an honest debate.

[Name removed]

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[demgurl]

50. Anyone else notice this.......

I listened to the news segment at the link listed above and Bill O'Lielly says that the Canadian government funds this station and he considers it their fault that it went to air. I found this statement very interesting on a couple of levels.

The first level is that journalists down here get paid by the government and they play nice so why is it that government sponsored journalists up there do not play so nice? Well, Bill, I guess you need to know a thing or two about the whole situation. The 'journalists' down here are actually paid to spread propaganda and are not real journalists - not in the sense of their predecessors. The journalists in Canada are real and take their job seriously. They do not live in Amerika.

The second level of Bill's comments is that Bushco keeps journalists in line. I mean, you have seen what has become of people who dare defy the chimp, they get fired or need to resign. Bill can not fathom a government that lets people report without any interference - and report the truth! *gasp* He thinks the Canadian government should have reporters on as tight a leash as the chimp does.

I found this one line, that he said, to be very telling.

[jayctravis]

51. I'm sure there's a market for a DVD release.

Does Netflix have a way to suggest acquisitions?

[rodeodance]

65. Bill constantly bashes anything remotely 'socialist'

[Flammable Materials]

52. If you have Usenet access, you can download the video:

http://www.newzbin.com/browse/post/991994 /

It's currently on the newsgroup: alt.binaries.multimedia.documentaries, but get it quick! It was posted on January 27th.

[Bozita]

64. also found in ...

alt.binaries.documentaries

[daleo]

56. Canada drives right wing crackpots crazy

We provide an example of a political culture that (mostly) rejects them. That is dangerous in their world view. It proves that right wing ascendency is not inevitable.

[Boswells_Johnson]

63. Before Fahrenheit 9/11 came out, The Fifth Estate had a special

on the "conspiracy" theories flying around. It too was very well done.

http://www.cbc.ca/fifth/conspiracytheories/index.html

[rodeodance]

66. I read somewhere that our troops recieve Fox news in Iraq. but I do

not know if there get other networks? does anyone know?

[Fitzgibbon]

69. While visiting Colombia, Faux News was the only english-language

news channel on the idiot box. Seeing it for the first time, it astounded me that they cycled through the same 4 stories all the bloody time; like nothing else mattered except those 4 stories.

Talk about TV for those with ADD!

[Hamlette]

71. we stayed at a hotel in Thailand where Fox News was the only

channel in English. My son kept turning it on to "know the opposition" and my husband, who thinks my son and I are too radical, was usually the first to turn it off in disgust.

I don't think we ever lasted more than 5 minutes then we would rant for hours about the inaccuracies in those 5 minutes!

We were with a tour group, bunch of people we didn't know, I ventured to say at one point "we're in news withdrawl as the only station is Fox and we can't watch it." Everyone on the tour agreed! (Well, everyone within ear shot. I bet the guy who wouldn't go into a temple there because he had to take off his shoes and that would be like worshiping a different god and his god (Pentacostal) wouldn't like that, was a Fox fan. He wasn't around when we had this discussion.) They were as pissed as we were. I was so happy to learn I was with my tribe.

[A Simple Game]

77. Well, yeah, sure,

but then you probably weren't on the Neil Bush "special" tour.

[Bozita]

78. Foxnews during prime time for GI's in Iraq is what I read

They get some other newscasts, but not in primetime.

Oh yeah, they get Limbaugh every day for the full three hours.

Others know more about this. If you're one of them, join in.

[Edgewater_Joe]

76. Shut Up! ShutUp! SHUTUPSHUTUPSHUTUP!!!!!!!!!!

Or I'll get my special falafel loofah and run it across your breasteses!

[LynnTheDem]

84. *SMACK*

The sickness ahd you in its evil clutches for a minute there, Joe! Feeling better now? Or should I administer a ?

[underpants]

87. "You scare the hell out of them, Bill,"

What a bunch of self congratulatory bullsh*t

[TheUnspeakable]

89. speaking of o'lielly....

has anyone seen this?? <www.sweetjesusihatebilloreilly.com />

[SHRED]

91. Keep whining Bill

More CBC publicity is a good thing!

[Doctor Panacea]

98. An utter jackass

The most contemptible thing about that jackass O'Reilly is that, on top of his arrogance and viciousness and moral hypocrisy, he is thin-skinned and cannot bear to have anyone criticize him.

[Spazito]

96. Take a look at the lady O'Lielly had to get to dis Canada!

Her name is Rachel Marsden and she is a total nut case! Here's her "resume". She has been charged with harassing men in Canada.
Given O'Lielly's proclivity for harassment, one has to wonder if 'like attracts like'.

Here's a link to a news article about the 'lady'.

Vancouver woman charged with harassment

VANCOUVER – The 28–year–old woman who falsely accused a swim coach at Simon Fraser University of sexual harassment in the mid 1990s, now faces a charge of criminal harassment.

Rachel Marsden was arrested by Vancouver Police after a 52–year–old Vancouver man complained of being harassed by phone and e-mail.

snip

Crown counsel has requested an evaluation of her mental state.

snip

Back in 1995, an SFU swim coach was fired after Marsden went public with her allegations. He was later reinstated following an investigation.

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http://vancouver.cbc.ca/regional/servlet/View?filename=...