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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:05 AM
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Bush: U.S. Must Stay in Iraq After Election (radio address)
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&ncid=578&e=...


WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Under pressure to start bringing U.S. troops home from Iraq (news - web sites) after Sunday's election, President Bush (news - web sites) said on Saturday that the U.S. mission must keep going to help the new government get its footing.


"As democracy takes hold in Iraq, America's mission there will continue," Bush said in his weekly radio address. "Our military forces, diplomats and civilian personnel will help the newly elected government of Iraq establish security and train Iraqi military police and other forces."

He added: "Terrorist violence will not end with the election."

The president is under growing pressure at home to show signs of progress in Iraq, with the U.S. death toll having surpassed 1,400 and members of Congress increasingly uneasy about the costs in blood and money.

Massachusetts Democratic Sen. Edward Kennedy (news, bio, voting record), a critic of Bush's Iraq policy, said on Thursday that the United States should start to withdraw military and politically from Iraq and aim to pull out all troops as early as possible next year.

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RockStar Donating Member (184 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:07 AM
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1. BRING THEM ON
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ClintonTyree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:08 AM
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2. Duh...............
this one goes into the "most firm grasp of the obvious" hall of fame.
:eyes:
What a freaking idiot, and this asshole represents our country.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:17 AM
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3. He's counting on continued instability.....
that's the cover needed to justify our presence to control the oil production. You don't put up $1.5BB embassies without a longterm plan.

It was always about the oil....
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:22 AM
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4. Yes indeed! A Permanent US Presence in Iraq.....
Americans need to start looking at what they are doing, not listening to that wad of bullshit spewing forth from their mouths...

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=2281&nc...

~snip~


Though the media ignored Kerry's statement and failed to do any substantive follow-up research, his comments were well-grounded in reality. On the day of the debate the Christian Science Monitor spotlighted the findings of defense specialist John Pike, whose website, GlobalSecurity.org, located twelve "enduring bases" in Iraq, including satellite photos and names. In March, the Chicago Tribune reported that US engineers were constructing fourteen such long-term encampments--the number Kerry referred to. The New York Times previously placed the number at four.


While the exact figure may change, suspicions of undisclosed US imperial plans--exemplified by permanent military bases--rightfully linger. Before the war, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz suggested moving US troops stationed in Saudi Arabia into Iraq. In October, a survey by the University of Maryland's Program on International Policy Attitudes found that two-thirds of respondents disapproved of a permanent military presence, even though more than half thought the US would build the bases anyway.


Now comes a report in the New York Sun by Eli Lake revealing that the Pentagon (news - web sites) is building a permanent military communications system in Iraq, a necessary foundation for any lasting troop presence. The new network will comprise twelve communications towers throughout Iraq, linking Camp Victory in Baghdad to other existing (and future) bases across the country, eventually connecting with US bases in Qatar, the United Arab Emirates and Afghanistan (news - web sites).


"People need to get realistic and think in terms of our presence being in Iraq for a generation or until democratic stability in the region is reached," Dewey Clarridge, the CIA (news - web sites)'s former chief of Arab operations (and Iran-contra point man), told the Sun.

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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:43 AM
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7. The PNAC "no exit" plan. Too bad everyone OTHER than Americans
seems to know about the neoCONimperialists' intention for a permanent military presence. Even the majority of congress members are ignorant about this intention. However, more and more individuals are finally starting to get that information.
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BadGimp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:14 PM
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22. We broke it, and we get to keep it
WASS
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Selteri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:40 AM
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5. Again - DUUU-UUUH
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 11:40 AM by Selteri
This is an administration by the corporations, for the corporations and with the corporations, they only care about the next 20 years of the last of the peak oil supplies while in the next ten years look the other way as the rain goes from being uncomfortable to get a raindrop in your eye to being a need for acid burn cream if it touches your skin. Not that it'll matter because we'll have to be all wearing something like a bur qua because of the damage we've done.

And these are using numbers our own Government has stated including the EPA and other agencies that have estimates 20 years of peak oil and 2020 for the time when the crap in the air has changed the water in our clouds to being so caustic that conservative estimates over the sulphuric acid rain we will be doused with will stink and redden our skin.

Gee, thanks Bush.
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MichiganVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:41 AM
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6. Oh yeah its really taking hold dumbshit
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greyXstar Donating Member (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:44 AM
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8. What a shocker! Dimson lied again!!
Didn't he say just the other that we'd leave if the 'elected' National Assembly asked us to? People are never going to wake up to the fact that these people want to take over the region. 14 permanant bases, the largest embassy in the world, more lies than anyone can count...WAKE THE FUCK UP, AMERICA!!!
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brentspeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:45 AM
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9. When will the GIs start saying "Enough is enough!"? n/t
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:44 PM
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10. Gerald Celente is the founder of the
Trends Research Institute. He has a paid staff of 175 people who study trends and make predictions. Here's what they say about the war in Iraq:

"Rather than unite the country, the upcoming Iraqi elections will create deeper political/tribal conflict, harden religious divisions and push Iraq into more chaos and a bloody civil war. There will be no democracy, no independent government nor will there be an Iraqi armed force capable of accepting the transfer of United States military power."

"Forced into waging war on their own, thousands more Americans will die, tens of thousands more will be wounded, hundreds of thousands of Iraqi's will be killed and wounded, and hundreds of billions more dollars will be spent before the United States and its handful of coalition forces are eventually forced to withdraw......"

http://www.trendsresearch.com/journal.html
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:47 PM
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11. I wonder how many years that will take?
:(
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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:15 PM
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15. I don't know. I've done some more reading
about Trends Research Institute. I'm sure their newsletter tells more. Unfortunately though, it costs $185.00 per year to subscribe. The little bits we get are free.

Here's the shocker: guess who subscribes to his newsletter? Corporations. Companies which do business overseas. Futures traders, stock brokers, anyone who has an interest in informed news about what's going to happen.

And they pay big bucks to find out. These guys are no fortune tellers which a robe and a crystal ball. They have an excellent reputation, and Mr. Celente has made millions from the futures market, by turning his knowledge into $$$$.

THEY ALL KNOW. They all know what's going to happen in Iraq. It's all a complete sham. There are no Pollyannas out there, hanging on Bush's every word, and oh yes for sure Democracy is on the march in Iraq.

Which means that they are taking action now. The ones left holding the bag will be the people who believe him (a lot of Americans) and the rest of us.

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SodoffBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:24 PM
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17. I wonder if they know that it will bleed over into Iraq.
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 02:25 PM by SodoffBush
US' choice, just like in Vietnam.

When that happens, here's my prediction: the vast majority of the US will finally turn against the war, including those who fight it.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:34 PM
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18. They know. They always knew.
They know,...they are counting on it.

The objective is: permanent military presence.

Perpetual bloodshed,...accomplishes that objective.

Our soldiers are merely pawns in a plan for domination.

They know.
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:59 PM
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13. i've seen a couple of articles about the GI's refusing to go back
I must say that I don't blame them. Even though they enlisted and knew that war was a possibility, they are being misused. I would not want to go back to risk dying for lies either.
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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:53 PM
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12. Celebrate Iraqi Soverignty!!

FREEDOM on the MARCH!!!
The Newly Elected Iraqi Government Assembles!





Opps. Wrong picture.
My bad.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:27 PM
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14. better tell Novak this-as he was on CNN earlier saying that Bush knows
he has to get out of Iraq.
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leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 06:39 AM
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33. just like all repukes...
what they say is the opposite of what they mean.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 10:55 AM
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34. and who is feeding Novakula
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SodoffBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:21 PM
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16. What happens if the new govt tell the US to get the hell out?
Mr. pResident, I thought you'd said you would leave in that case.
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:36 PM
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19. The members of that new govt will be "disappeared" by "terrorists".
Quite the NO EXIT plan,...yes?
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:41 PM
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20. Not gonna happen
we're helping Iraq count the votes.
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fshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:42 PM
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21. The Idiot "thinks" he has a life-long mandate.nt
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:18 PM
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23. hey hey bush.what would NIXON SAY?



"When the strongest nation in the world can be tied up for ... years in a war ... with no end in sight, when the richest nation in the world can't manage its own economy, when the nation with the greatest tradition of the rule of law is plagued by unprecedented lawlessness, ... and when the President of the United States cannot travel abroad or to any major city at home without fear of a hostile demonstration - then it's time for new leadership for the United States of America."
-- Richard Nixon, 1968
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 07:41 PM
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25. nixon said: "Peace with Honor" AND we're bring FREEDOM to Vietnam (PHOTO)
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 07:43 PM by diamond14


April 1975....over 58,000 American Troops KILLED, over 3 MILLION Vietnamese KILLED, $$$$$BILLIONS for the war-profiteers...and finally, "Peace with Honor" arrived on the day that CONGRESS CUT OFF THE MONEY for nixon's folly....finally....

The American exit from Vietnam....1975....
















Americans and other evacuees arrive aboard a U.S. Navy ship after being airlifted out of Saigon by a U.S. Marine helicopter on April 29, 1975.




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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 07:13 PM
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24. Damned if you do and damned if you don't
If we leave Iraq, whoever is elected leader will probably be deposed in a coupe or civil war.

If we stay whoever is elected does not have the stamp of legitinacy because he needs a foreign military to prop him up. Violence will continue anyhow because of the Rumsfeld doctorine of not adequately supplying our troops what they need.

Aren't you glad these people know what they're doing?
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 07:55 PM
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26. American Troops will remain on the strategically located bases


will will be beefed-up into major fortresses, and Americans WILL control and protect the oil/chemical industries.....the rest of Iraq has already sunk into chaos, which bush* really doesn't care about.....


with no jobs, etc, it'll be real easy for bush* to implement his NEW Auschwitz-type oil/chemical work factory outside of the cities and close to the oil/chemical plants....remember, Auschwitz was a WORK CAMP...the ultimate CHEAP LABOR is SLAVE LABOR....with the ultimate cheap housing/food and just work them to death...when they can't work anymore KILL them...that's Auschwitz (for COAL, IRON, STEEL), and that is what Iraq is becoming (for OIL/Chemicals)....Iraqis are more than happy to work for next-to-nothing while the work camps are being built....there are NO JOBS in Iraq and people are starving....soon, the buses will pick up the GOOD WORKERS and their families to their NEW HOMES at the work camps, all protected by American Troops, trained at Abu Garib....


bush* learned all this from his grandpa, prescott...bush* KNOWS that it's the best way to make BIG BUCKS for his minions....




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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:55 AM
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31. Cheney reviewed that system just last week
He's in charge of sign preparation.

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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 07:58 PM
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27. Of course, bush can almost taste the OIL there. n/t
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ezekiel333 Donating Member (507 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:05 PM
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28. It's Hard Work.
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 08:09 PM by ezekiel333
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:52 PM
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29. Oh dang. and here I thought for sure we would leave after we completed
our "mission"
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ckramer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:38 AM
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30. Two soldiers a day - how about that George?
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aikido15 Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 02:07 AM
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32. OUT NOW!
Fuck Bush. Put enough public pressure and they'll pull out.

Everyone must start participating in the protests! God damn it!

Fucking apathy...makes me sick. :puke:

And mad.

And FRUSTRATED!

Can you tell?

www.answercoalition.org Get details on March 19th global protest, put your boots on and march if you disagree with this war!!!!!!!! :mad:
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