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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:48 PM
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Bush Pledges Political Cover for Republicans
The New York Times
January 28, 2005
Bush Pledges Political Cover for Republicans
By REUTERS

Filed at 6:00 p.m. ET

WHITE SULPHUR SPRINGS, W.Va. (Reuters) - President Bush, faced with opposition in Republican ranks to his intentions to revamp Social Security, pledged on Friday to provide members with political cover from any fallout over the debate.

At a Republican retreat at the Greenbrier resort in the West Virginia mountains, Bush tried to convince members that establishing private retirement accounts is the way forward for Social Security despite the political risks and transition costs estimated at up to $2 trillion.

"He told us he's going to help us by providing some cover on some of the most important and politically difficult issues," said Rep. Rob Portman, an Ohio Republican.

~snip~

Overhauling Social Security, the legal system and immigration laws will be major elements of Bush's State of the Union speech on Wednesday night, an address expected to offer more details on his second-term plans than his lofty Jan. 20 inaugural address. "I look forward to talking to the country about the need to address big reforms like Social Security," Bush said in brief public remarks to the Republican gathering before answering members' questions in private.

~snip~

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/politics/politics-bush-r...



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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:52 PM
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1. What crisis will he manufacture to provide this so-called political cover?
He doesn't even try to hide his innate evilness, anymore, does he?
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:17 PM
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10. Well, if bushsquad has the voting
machines..they don't need no stinking "political cover" ..do they?
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buddysmellgood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:53 PM
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2. And their cover will come in the form of a very personal screwing. Bush
is not a republican, he is a facist.
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CO Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:53 PM
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3. The Two Biggest Problems We Have as a Nation...
...are Gerge W. Bush and the Republicans.
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oasis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:56 PM
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4. The White House plans to pay for more propagandists with taxpayer funds.
Happy now Bushbots? You man is in but social security goes bye bye. :hurts:

The Constitution :hurts: The Iraq election :hurts: The U.S. Treasury :hurts:
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:01 PM
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5. "Ye shall know them by their BLUNDERS"
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:02 PM
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6. * guarantees that Deibold will look kindly on their next election
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:43 PM
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14. Exactly
That's how any politician can screw the voters over, yet still be assured re-election.
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:10 PM
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7. He'll be spending his "capital" n/t
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peterh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:15 PM
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8. Pleasehow might someone with less than
50% approval rating provide political cover for political pie-in-the-sky schemes? Oh wait, silly me.its that payola thingie again.onlyit goes directly to their pockets this time.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:52 PM
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18. Sequoia, Diebold, ES&S
easy....

"The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything." - Josef Stalin
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NVMojo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:39 AM
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28. yep, that way he can cover them for everything!!!
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dusty64 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 09:57 AM
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35. Exactly my thoughts.
The Democratic "leadership" better get their heads outta their asses on this and quick. There is no other explanation to the rethugs smugness and arrogance these days besides the fact that they know they can not lose as long as their "voting" machines are at work. Wake the fu@k up!
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:16 PM
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9. What Kind Of Idiots Does He Think They Are?
These wiley GOP operatives weren't born yesterday, haven't drunk the kool-aid, and kowtow to no one. Not the ones that last for any length of time, anyway. He's screwed them over a couple times, anyway. They won't sit still for that from the lamest duck to come down the cornfield.
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SleeplessinSoCal Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:04 AM
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24. Love the sound of G W Bush - Lame Duck
You can bet he hates it though. He seems determined to reverse all trends.

How can this idiot savant be pulling this off. Destroying our country just so he can prove people wrong?
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Nothing Without Hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:23 PM
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11. What on earth DOES he mean by "political cover"?
Could it be that he thinks what he says about Social Security "reform" will create such glowing national support?

Or is he really referring, as comes immediately to some of our minds, to some kind of staged emergency to distract attention?

Or is he just lying to them, as he so often does, to get what he wants, planning to screw them over later when he doesn't need them for this? Payoffs coming in to him and his cronies from the looting and brokers' fees from what used to be Social Security would surely support him and the future generations of that family and his pals' families for a long, long time. Unless everything get's blown up first.

Whatever he means, it's bad news and they'd be fools (again) to believe him.
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:32 PM
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12. so he'll pay for their souls?
thought he already did.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:36 PM
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13. Refresh my memory...
Did Prescott Bush have bones to pick with FDR?

I get the feeling this jackass' only real goal is to get even with anybody who pissed off a bush.
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Chelsea Patriot Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:08 AM
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37. FDR confiscated Bush Coin because of Bush Nazi support.

This is all payback.
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sam sarrha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:16 PM
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15. what part of "Brain damaged Moron" dont they understand..?? wake up!!!!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:45 PM
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16. trust him, thugs! trust the untrustable two-faced weasel!
love him! he loves you, right? so far, he's only used ruthless threats to control you... can't you see that is just a form of pure love?
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twaddler01 Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:50 PM
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17. Somebody help me out here...
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 11:51 PM by twaddler01
Is there a problem with our Social Security the way it is now?

I'm curious to know...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:54 PM
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19. Nope, can use some tweaks around the edges
but their objective is to DISMANTLE social security, destroy it, regardless of the rethoric
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twaddler01 Donating Member (800 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:56 PM
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21. Exactly what I thought...
:argh:
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:06 AM
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25. NO!
And Social Security employees are stepping-up today on C-SPAN (replayed tonight in it's entirety) along w/FDR's grandson and other experts on this... mild tweeking. That's it!

So, what has me frightening is "What is this really all about?"

Taking hold of our attention?
Diverting us with more major fears?

Why? Why is SSI, something we have time to debate and fix which if no one fixed right now or ever would payout abt 80% in 2042, why now? Why the "bankrupcy" from this bas**DS? Yelling NOW, etc... why? Even going so far as to hold bigger meetings to "sell this" like's its a sales pkg to us is immoral to the American people, as our freedoms go down the tubes. What is it?

Diversions but from what? These are my questions and the pundit repuks better wake up - it's there future, too!
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hector459 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:55 PM
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20. Well, If the oversight hearings on Social security Admin are an indication
of his political cover, the Republicans are screwed on this. If the Dems and moderates who want to fight these changes get their act together and stop talking to themselves and begin talking to their constituents so as to educate them with the truth, this is a no win for Bush. If I were the Dems, I would start educating the young adults and even middle school children about Social Security, how it works, and what it does, and who it serves, how it started, who was for it and who was against it. I would have make myself available to any grassroots organization who asked me to come and speak about the proposed changes if I were a Congressman.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:58 PM
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22. Honor amoung thieves.
Of course honor and bush don't really fit.
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:03 AM
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23. Constituents of wavering Repubs need to be all over them, fast
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/conscience.php

According to Talking Points Memo blog, Dave Reichert is among those few Republicans willing to cross party lines and oppose Welfare for Wall Street, better known as Social Security piratization. I think Reichert needs to hear from his constituents, thanking him for taking a principled stance and encouraging him to hold to it.
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bling bling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:49 AM
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26. Pledge alligence to the Godfather, ya'll. He's got your back.
Nevermind what those pesky taxpayers want. Just let the Godfather know if they give you a hard time.
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ignatius 2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:17 AM
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27. OMG, 9-11 was a political cover. Remember how fast Bush was sinking
in the ratings, he appeared destined to be a one-termer, even repug congressman were deserting him.

These delusion,sick men will do anything to control their agenda. Anything.
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driver8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:55 AM
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29. I am so sick of shrubya and his "pledges"...
It seems like every day there is a new pledge from the boy-king. He really does think that he is in charge, doesn't he??

I hate that man...I really, really hate him.
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norml Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:45 AM
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30. Worms eat the Kingdom
Worms eat the Kingdom. The small man is not ashamed. Demons guide him now.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:02 AM
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31. Does anyone else find it ironic
That Bush and his minions gathered at an exclusive resort to discuss how to dismantle perhaps the greatest boost the lower classes have ever been given by the US?
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 06:33 AM
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32. Perhaps even more so, considering the fact that...
...the Greenbrier was modified several years ago to be a hideaway for Congress in the event of nuclear war. The bunkers are still there, but it was supposedly "decommissioned" (around 1995) for that use.
Unlike other government relocation centers, built mainly to house military and executive branch officials who would manage a nuclear crisis and its aftermath, the Greenbrier facility was custom-designed to meet the needs of a Congress-in-hiding, complete with a chamber for the Senate, a chamber for the House and a massive hall for joint sessions.
A "Congress-in-hiding..." How apropos. :eyes:
http://www.avhub.net/congressionalhideawaygreenbriar.ht...
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 07:27 AM
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33. If dismantling Social Security was the right thing to do
no one would NEED "political cover".

This is as much as an admission that Bushco's plan is a massive screwing of the American people.
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remfan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:54 AM
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34. C'mon, huddle under my LAME DUCK wing!
:evilgrin:
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Guns Aximbo Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:52 AM
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36. That sounds to me like
The dullard in the Whitehouse doesn't care what the voters want and will try to make these changes anyway he can.
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 08:23 PM
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38. Gay bashing Terra Alerts and more Osama Broadcast interviews
Shattershot cover.
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Sugarbleus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 09:30 PM
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39. The MOST CORRUPT Lying weasely gangsters EVER to sit in the
White House in my life time!! Their entire agenda is utter Bull Shit!!

PASS THE WORD AROUND! Flood the congress with your voices of outrage.
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LiviaOlivia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 06:44 PM
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40. If he shaved his head
we would see a 666.
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