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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:22 AM
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WP: Dick Cheney, Dressing Down (cheney DEGRADES Auschwitz)
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 11:23 AM by diamond14


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A43247-20...

Dick Cheney, Dressing Down
Parka, Ski Cap at Odds With Solemnity of Auschwitz Ceremony


By Robin Givhan
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, January 28, 2005; Page C01

-snips-

At yesterday's gathering of world leaders in southern Poland to mark the 60th anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz, the United States was represented by Vice President Cheney. The ceremony at the Nazi death camp was outdoors, so those in attendance, such as French President Jacques Chirac and Russian President Vladimir Putin, were wearing dark, formal overcoats and dress shoes or boots. Because it was cold and snowing, they were also wearing gentlemen's hats. In short, they were dressed for the inclement weather as well as the sobriety and dignity of the event.

The vice president, however, was dressed in the kind of attire one typically wears to operate a snow blower.


Cheney stood out in a sea of black-coated world leaders because he was wearing an olive drab parka with a fur-trimmed hood. It is embroidered with his name. It reminded one of the way in which children's clothes are inscribed with their names before they are sent away to camp. And indeed, the vice president looked like an awkward boy amid the well-dressed adults.
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Just last week, in a frigid, snow-dusted Washington, Cheney sat outside through the entire inauguration without so much as a hat and without suffering frostbite. And clearly, Cheney owns a proper overcoat. The world saw it during his swearing-in as vice president. Cheney treated that ceremony with the dignity it deserved -- not simply through his demeanor, but also through his attire. Would he have dared to take the oath of office with a ski cap on? People would have justifiably considered that an insult to the office, the day, the country.

...........The vice president might have been warm in his parka, ski cap and hiking boots. But they had the unfortunate effect of suggesting that he was more concerned with his own comfort than the reason for braving the cold at all.



U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney, center, is flanked by his wife Lynne, right, and Israel's President Moshe Katsav, left, as leaders from 30 countries gather to remember the victims of the Holocaust on the 60th anniversary of the liberation of the Nazis' Auschwitz death camp by Soviet troops in Oswiecim, southern Poland on Thursday, Jan. 27, 2005. (AP Photo/Herbert Knosowski)

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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:23 AM
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1. Oh god, that picture is funny.
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 11:23 AM by Goldeneye
Why is he wearing a parka...with fur? He looks like a 6 year old girl. Why isn't it pink? He'd be pretty in pink.
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2Design Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:26 AM
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4. probably only brought ski attire - it is a boondoggle - officially
paid for by tax payers for them to have a europe vacation
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AlabamaYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:03 PM
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102. Is that a lift ticket on his jacket?
I can't enlarge the picture enough to see it clearly, bu iti sure looks like one
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spooked Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #102
256. It does look like a lift ticket!! Too funny!!
No one else has any white tags hanging off their coats. LOL
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kizzdogg Donating Member (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 06:24 AM
Response to Reply #102
281. no
no jackass thats a patch
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BrendaStarr Donating Member (491 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:37 AM
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247. George Bush made it a point to degrade the memory of the Holocaust too
When he visited the camp--I believe that was May 2003 right after he had started his own killing spree in Iraq.

He had Ari tell the reporters that the president asked the guide if she had a lot of people come who questioned the validity of holocaust claims.

(Like holocaust deniers would be going to Auschwitz, Duh!)

This quote was not in the AP account, only the New York Times report.

Funny, but it was during a time that they must have been planning the Auschwitz visit that Press Secretary Ari Fleischer decided he had better things to do than hang with that bunch anymore.

I wonder if it had any connection to what he was told he was going to have to do.
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Rush1184 Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 04:42 AM
Response to Reply #1
279. Who needs photoshop with this group?
Seriously, editing this administration's pctures would only make them less funny.
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:24 AM
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2. Cheney clearly thought he was going to a WI wedding
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 12:07 PM by Inland
On edit to make my post more insulting to cheeseheads.
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yinkaafrica Donating Member (535 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:53 AM
Response to Reply #2
37. He's got beer on his lips and brats on the mind
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:06 PM
Response to Reply #2
48. We dress better than that "UP NORT"
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:08 PM
Response to Reply #48
50. Edited my post to make it more insulting to WI. Go on, feed the flame!
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 07:46 AM
Response to Reply #50
250. Actually I thought my post was funny
The asshole would never come "UP NORT" for any reason. He couldn't get over the fact a tap beer costs 75 cents and many the girls have a
toothy "Summer Smile" (Some are there-- some are not) ala sponge Bob square pants.

He'd also have to pack a spare pacemaker battery for his ticker.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:53 PM
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98. He thought they said "Ice Fish," not "Auschwitz"
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 01:55 PM by Sabriel
This is the funniest thing I've seen since the SInauguration. Thanks for the laugh, you Cheneyer!

edit spelling
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AusTexDem Donating Member (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:30 PM
Response to Reply #98
114. Sabriel,Thanks for the best laugh i've had in a long time!
ice fish. LOL!
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:49 PM
Response to Reply #98
125. Ice fish - LOL!!!
He even looks as if he is trying to find a fishing pole and a net!
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Inland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:17 PM
Response to Reply #98
137. Oh, that's too good. Make sure it gets to the MSM.
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:00 PM
Response to Reply #137
153. Send it with the pic to John Stewart
Ice Fish. Too funny.

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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:51 PM
Response to Reply #98
148. Very good! Or - a reject from the Bob and Doug Mackenzie movie
Either way, looks like a major league hosehead to me.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #148
213. Eh, o.k., so like, our topic for today is, like, foreign relations, ay?
No, way, hoser. That's a downer...
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:23 PM
Response to Reply #148
216. Some clever wit compared him to
...Kenny in South Park...
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:14 AM
Response to Reply #148
254. PHOTOS: Bob & Doug Mackenzie compared to cheney at Auschwitz




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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #98
185. LOL!!!!!
THat was freakin' beautiful!
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Wrinkle_In_Time Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:03 PM
Response to Reply #98
209. /Raises glass to Sabriel n/t
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rugger Donating Member (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:47 PM
Response to Reply #98
222. DAMN that's fuckin' funny - good one
What a low class white trash loser
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Catfight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:25 AM
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3. What a slob, I guess zero suffering while honoring those who suffered
gravely isn't a fore thought in the mind of the evil.
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:27 AM
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5. Shameful idiot
Enough said.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:43 AM
Response to Reply #5
25. No it's not.
Disgraceful and uncouth.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:28 AM
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6. What an Ignominious Fucking Douchebag
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 11:29 AM by Beetwasher
I can see the thought bubble over his head "Ahh, who the fuck cares. Why should I dress up for a bunch of dead Jews?"
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shaolinmonkey Donating Member (812 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:28 AM
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7. The only thing missing is an NFL or NASCAR
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 11:29 AM by shaolinmonkey
logo on that jacket. Ya der hey, we're goin' up to da Auschwitz on the Ski-Doo, den we're gonna go ice fishin' and drink some brandy old-fashioned, yah hey.

That being said, I like guys like that. Hell, I'm a Wisconsinite and a curler. It's just that I wouldn't have people like me speak at the 60th anniversary of the Auschwitz liberation.

edited for (you got it) grammar.
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:30 AM
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8. tihs just goes to show that he is the UberLord of the administration....
this never would have happened with *. His handlers would have done extensive research and focus-group testing of reactions to his various outfits. Cheney obviously doens't have handlers. He just doesn't give a shit about what anyone thinks of him; he can just do whatever and wear whatever the fuck he wants. Asshole!
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:43 AM
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24. That was my first thought, too.
Nobody tells Cheney what to do, not even the wife, who normally, in a situation like this might have said, "Do you think that's appropriate? There will be cameras there." Either she knows better than to question him or she's as much of an asshole as he is.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #24
150. He's whipped.
She can make him do anything. And she is no fool, she must have not really thought about it. I can't see it as a deliberate statement, but it clearly represents the thoughtlessness of that bunch.
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:57 PM
Response to Reply #150
207. Not thought about it?
Look at how she's dressed.

Aside: I bet she's got a whole walk-in closet full of "mourning clothes." No one is more shocked that Dick has lasted this long than she. Maybe, by not telling him, this was an attempt to bring on a MI. :think:


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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:20 PM
Response to Reply #207
214. That's my point
She probably spent more time fussing than usual over her outfit, and failed to herd him like she used to do when he was SECDEF. She watches him, closely. They know each other better than they know themselves, they've been together since High School.

She even tells him what he can and cannot eat. There is a great photo of him from several years back, where he was on the rubber chicken circuit, and the menu was surf and turf. The missus told the waiter to only bring the fish for Mr. C, and he is shown surreptitiously swiping a chunk of meat off his wife's plate.

He had a topcoat and leather shoes in his wardrobe, he wore them the following day laying a wreath. He's just thoughtless. But they all are....
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Chelsea Patriot Donating Member (603 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 06:19 PM
Response to Reply #24
181. Lynn's an asshole.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #181
186. No...she's the opening on the other side
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SkyIsGrey Donating Member (288 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 11:32 AM
Response to Reply #186
258. On the other side
of the colon?
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:23 PM
Response to Reply #258
267. No, the other side of the body...
separated by just a few inches.
Just my "ingenious" attempt to allude to THE four letter word forbidden on DU...EVEN THOUGH LYNNE CHENEY IS A PRIME EXAMPLE OF ONE!
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Shipwack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:32 PM
Response to Reply #8
169. Actually, I doubt Bush would be different...
Bush surrounds himself with people that won't tell him anything is wrong. I remember when the last White House press secretary was on The Daily Show, and John Stewart asked him why no one ever corrected Bush's pronunciation on words such as "nuclear". The man looked honestly appalled and said, "What? Correct the President Of The United States???!!" (I swear, you could hear the capital letters...)

By the way... Why wasn't Bush and/or Rice there, ????
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:27 PM
Response to Reply #169
217. He's being relegated, I think
Back in the old days, like, say, when GHW BUSH was VP, all the VP ever did was GO TO FUNERALS. Remember old "out of the loop" George?

I think he is being punished as one of the architects of the Iraq policy, and he knows it. His outfit is a way of pouting about it.

I'm waiting for the televised public whipping of Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz, next....course, that will only happen when the coup is complete and weecowboy is anointed Leader for Life....
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:30 AM
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9. He stands out like a turd in a punchbowl.....n/t
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RuleofLaw Donating Member (345 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:33 AM
Response to Reply #9
11. He is the turd in a punchbowl!
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:31 AM
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10. I am not upset at this
Perhaps he might have found a black parka, but it was cold as hell there and he is an old man with heart trouble. Would one of the hats on the guy behind him been better? If so, why? It is a "common" head warmer in Eastern Europe. The cap Cheney has on is a "common" head warmer in the US.

The real tragedy here is that Bush didn't see it necessary to go to this event or to Davos.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:40 AM
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19. Bullshit
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 11:47 AM by Beetwasher
He's the VP. If he doesn't want to dress appropriately for these occasions (or can't because of his heart) he should give the job up. He dressed appropriately for his swearing in and it was just as cold. Dressing appropriately is part of his fucking job. He's a douchebag for doing this and it clearly shows he doesn't fucking give a shit (like we didn't already know that)

And you know what else? He could find and afford clothes that are just as warm and a lot more tasteful. Hell, my overcoat is one of the warmest coats I own. He's a fucking douche.

"Just last week, in a frigid, snow-dusted Washington, Cheney sat outside through the entire inauguration without so much as a hat and without suffering frostbite. And clearly, Cheney owns a proper overcoat. The world saw it during his swearing-in as vice president. Cheney treated that ceremony with the dignity it deserved -- not simply through his demeanor, but also through his attire. Would he have dared to take the oath of office with a ski cap on? People would have justifiably considered that an insult to the office, the day, the country."
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:48 PM
Response to Reply #19
77. There are a number of potential reasons why this happened
I'm quite certain that he didn't plan this and that he was embarrassed by it. I'm also sure that a low level staffer was subsequently berated for not packing the appropriate clothes, or for messing up the schedule so that Cheney thought he was going on a tour instead of a memorial service.

Cheney is a lot of negative things, but he is a master politician. He understands the importance of symbolism and would never have approached such a service dismissively. I would put a great deal of cash down saying that someone on his staff screwed up royally and Cheney was sitting there highly embarrassed.

All of that being said, Cheney is an ass and criminal and should be locked away for the good of the country and the world for a variety of crimes against humanity. Poor dress at this memorial service is way down on the list.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:56 PM
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79. No Way, I Don't Buy It
He knew exactly where he was going and has enough money to buy appropriate clothes if none were packed. Give me a break. With all the security and planning that goes into any appearance by Cheney I find it hard to believe it was a mix up of some sort.

I don't know why you feel you need to make excuses for Cheney, but none of those comes even close to cutting it. Yes, he's a master politician, and knew exactly what he was doing. He was thumbing his nose at everyone there and sending a message "I can do whatever the fuck I want and dress however I want so fuck you all there's nothing you can do about it. I'm comfortable like this, fuck you and your ceremony."

Yup, he knew exactly what he was doing and didn't care. There's no way in the world he could think his clothes were or would be appropriate. He didn't care. Just look at his face in those pictures. He didn't want to be there and didn't care.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:37 PM
Response to Reply #79
87. Come on...you know he is not that stupid
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 01:41 PM by Stuckinthebush
That would be a stupid thing to do on purpose. His staff wouldn't allow it, his wife wouldn't allow it, and his colleagues wouldn't allow it. Something happened to his clothes and they didn't have time to get new things at the last minute.

On Edit...

OK Beet...you may be right. I just read this article:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A44390-20...

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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:07 PM
Response to Reply #87
104. Yup
Not stupid, not in the least, which means he did it deliberately and/or just didn't give a shit...It's really the only explanation that makes sense...
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donheld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:41 PM
Response to Reply #104
149. "He did it deliberately and/or just didn't give a shit"
Thats exactly what i thought all along. He doesn't give a shit and now the whole world knows it, if they didn't already.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:24 PM
Response to Reply #87
160. Wow! Did you see this out of that article you linked???
"The government would be responsible for keeping track of how much money is in each worker's account and give the lump sums to a financial services company to invest, a mechanism aimed at keeping administrative fees low, they said."

So....let me get this straight: They're selling this thing with the spin that people can do better with their money than the government, and can have more "freedom", yet, according to this, the GOVERNMENT is going to invest the money in each person's account???

This just gets worse every day.

:kick: :kick:
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Richard Steele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:03 PM
Response to Reply #79
154. Correct, and even more so...
With the kind of POWER he has, he could have ordered his staff to acquire ANY article of clothing he needed, and had it within 30 minutes, any time, day or night....

This was just a deliberate demonstration of unconcern...

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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 06:14 PM
Response to Reply #79
179. I would think it is more disrespectful of the dead...
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 06:15 PM by LoZoccolo
...to even have this argument and use this incident self-righteously.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 06:29 PM
Response to Reply #179
183. Uhh, What?
WTF are you talking about?
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:41 PM
Response to Reply #77
90. I agree
and what is with this douchebag stuff? I find that highly offensive -- it's a derogatory sexist remark!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:08 PM
Response to Reply #90
106. Sorry If I Offended Your Virgin Ears
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 02:09 PM by Beetwasher
How is it sexist to call Cheney a douchebag, when he's so obviously a douchebag? :shrug: How about Fuckwad? Is that acceptable? :eyes:

Welcome to the internet! Oh and DU to, I guess...Better get used to some people speaking colorfully or your going to be offended pretty regularly...
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:39 PM
Response to Reply #106
174. enema bag
let's keep it gender neutral
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:41 AM
Response to Reply #174
248. LOL!!!
:D

Welcome to DU. :hi:
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:00 PM
Response to Reply #248
261. thanks
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Bunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:43 PM
Response to Reply #90
177. Do enlighten me on this douchebag thing.
I'm as big a feminist as you'll find on this board, and douchebag is one of my favorite words. Crude and offensive - possibly. Sexist - you're going to have to explain that to me, because I just don't see it. :shrug:
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:49 PM
Response to Reply #77
95. Oh please...like he couldn't have borrowed a coat from an SS agent?
Someone in big Dick's entourage would have had a coat he could use if his dress coat didn't get packed.


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dutchdoctor Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:19 PM
Response to Reply #95
139. Could you refrain from abbreviating Security Service
In a thread about Auschwitz?

Thanks

It's about as insensitive as wearing the coat Cheney did during the memorial...
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 06:24 PM
Response to Reply #139
182. I didn't name the organization
EXCUSE ME for my *insensitive abbreviation*

I wasn't aware however...that I was on a world stage, at a memorial service, dealing with foreign leaders (or that I was the Vice Pres of the United States)
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dutchdoctor Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:47 AM
Response to Reply #182
238. no problem!
But I am sure you understand that it's unfortunate, even when it's "only" on DU and you're not Dick Cheney.. Glad you are not! I'd ReALLY have to :spank:
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:34 PM
Response to Reply #95
171. The SS dudes are pretty fit, do you think Cheney could fit his fat ass in
one of their coats? Doubt it. Wearing a military type HUNTING coat is weird, probably another code/signal. Cheney is NOT military and NEVER has been, in fact, I believe he got FIVE DEFERRMENTS.

WTF is he wearing this? He looks like freakin' GERMAN military.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 06:11 PM
Response to Reply #171
178. Some of those SECRET SERVICE guys are pretty huge
Yes, they are certainly not in the shape of flab-master Cheney but as large as some of them are (tall as well as wide) surely to God there would have been someone he could have borrowed a coat from?
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benddem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #77
107. he had the right type of coat
the next day...maybe they had one made. That is BS he travels on AF two and could have brought his entire wardrobe with him. He is a disgrace. He also wore proper attire for the much colder inauguration.
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MHalblaub Donating Member (153 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:31 PM
Response to Reply #77
116. So none of Cheney staff got a black overcoat? NT
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:51 PM
Response to Reply #77
126. They have suits and overcoats in Europe. He's a multimillionaire.
He's the second-most powerful man in the world (some would say 'first') and his movements and schedules are nano-managed to excrutiating detail.

No excuse for this. None.
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Danmel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #77
138. They have stores in Krakow
Which is just minutes away from Auschwitz. He was in Krakow the day before dressed appropriately and had he neglected to pack appropriate attire, they could have bought him a coat in Krakow, which is a modern large city.

He doesn't give a shit- if he had any respect or understanding of the solemnity of the event, he'd have dressed appropriately. Just another F*** the Jews from the Bush crowd.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:30 PM
Response to Reply #138
143. I'm certain that Krakow has nice WARM BLACK dress coats.....

and Gentlemen Hats too.....


and cheney, with his HUGE staff, and Air Force II jet, and Diplomatic Delegation....seems that if he wanted, someone could have gotten him the appropriate attire...on a minutes notice too....
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jeanmarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:08 PM
Response to Reply #77
155. LOL
AirForce Two lost his luggage? :D
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Tom Yossarian Joad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 06:53 PM
Response to Reply #77
188. They have stores in Europe...
A pair of longhandles and a black suit and overcoat could have been gathered by the 2nd most powerful man on earth's staff in a blink.

He didn't give a shit and was pissed that he had to go. This was a passive aggressive act IMHO.

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elsiesummers Donating Member (723 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:46 AM
Response to Reply #77
242. Press talks about Cheney's overcoat, not his secret Energy meetings.
The press would rather discuss an inappropriate overcoat that was probably a snaffu (or less probably a sign that Cheney is relegated to funeral attendance duty and this is his 'up yours' to the WH).

Regarding Cheney, the press should be talking about how no bid contracts were awarded to Halliburton or about how temporary price caps were not instituted during the California energy crisis. Or they could talk about the lack of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq or about the current efforts to kill Social Security as we know it or suppression of voting in swing states or efforts to switch from progressive taxation to regressive taxation in the guise of tax reform.

So much easier for the press to talk about Cheney's overcoat.

If we ever needed proof that the press is no longer free, well now we have it.

Grrrrr...
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:39 PM
Response to Reply #19
199. Exactly...
He's got enough $$$ to buy himself state-of-the-art insulated clothing...outer, inner, and under. If he plopped down 1 million bucks for this one occasion, it'd be no skin off his back.

Considering the misery that occurred in that awful place, I think it would be an honor to suffer even a little to pay tribute to those who
survived and those who died there.
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meow2u3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:42 PM
Response to Reply #19
268. His inappropriate dress was a symbolic gesture
A symbolic gesture of defiance, disrespect, and even hatred for the millions of human beings of which his company (Halliburton is the parent company of Brown & Root, the company Bush's gramps got caught doing business with Hitler) aided and abetted the genocide.
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malachi Donating Member (653 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #10
30. Did you read the article? The shithead had no problem wearing fromal
attire for his glorious swearing-in ceremony. Total lack of respect for the solemnity of the occasion. He knows better.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:43 PM
Response to Reply #30
74. Yes, I'll give that to you
Good point.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:58 AM
Response to Reply #10
42. Bush's grandfather funded the construction of Auschwitz He should have
gone as one of the developers.

Do we know for certain Cheney has heart trouble? Or does it only allow him to be out of the public eye long enough to work his evil deeds.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #42
61. bush* INHERITED Holocaust Blood-money from his grandpa (link)

bush* should AT LEAST give the blood-money BACK TO THE VICTIMS...over $1.5 MILLION with interest....

http://www.john-loftus.com/Thyssen.asp

-snip-

Throughout the Bush family's decades of public life, the American press has gone out of its way to overlook one historical fact - that through Union Banking Corporation (UBC), Prescott Bush, and his father-in-law, George Herbert Walker, along with German industrialist Fritz Thyssen, financed Adolf Hitler before and during World War II. It was first reported in 1994 by John Loftus and Mark Aarons in The Secret War Against the Jews: How Western Espionage Betrayed the Jewish People.

Union Banking Corporation

Early in 1924, Hendrick J. Kouwenhoven, the managing director of Bank voor Handel en Scheepvaart, traveled to New York to meet with Walker and the Harriman brothers. Together, they established The Union Banking Corporation. The UBC's headquarters was located at the same 39 Broadway address as Harriman & Co. As the German economy recovered through the mid to late '20s, Walker and Harriman's firm sold over $50,000,000 worth of German bonds to American investors, who profited enormously from the economic boom in Germany. In 1926, August Thyssen died at the age of 84. Fritz was now in control of one of the largest industrial families in Europe. He quickly created the United Steel Works (USW), the biggest industrial conglomerate in German history. Thyssen hired Albert Volger, one of the Ruhr's most influential industrial directors, as director General of USW. Thyssen also brought Fredich Flick, another German family juggernaut, on board. Flick owned coal and steel industries throughout Germany and Poland and desperately wanted to invest into the Thyssen empire. One of the primary motivations for the Thyssen/Flick massive steel and coal merger was suppressing the new labor and socialist movements.

That year in New York, George Walker decided to give his new son in law, Prescott Bush, a big break. Walker made Bush a vice president of Harriman & Co. Prescott's new office employed many of his classmates from his Yale class of 1917, including Roland Harriman and Knight Woolley.....

In fact, Walker hired Bush to help him supervise the new Thyssen/Flick United Steel Works. One section of the USW empire was the Consolidated Silesian Steel Corporation and the Upper Silesian Coal and Steel Company located in the Silesian section of Poland. Thyssen and Flick paid Bush and Walker generously, but it was worth every dime. Their new business arrangement pleased them all financially, and the collective talents of all four men and their rapid success astonished the business world.



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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #42
78. Yes! Checkout RoVie
Mr. West Wing Rove(rer)- his grandpappy built those gas chambers. Odd, isn't it. 2 Grandsons bcoming so tightknitted 2 generations later, and from the same Auschwitze/Germany roots.
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CBHagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:30 PM
Response to Reply #42
86. Oh, Cheney definitely has serious heart problems (serious post)
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 01:32 PM by CBHagman
There is a medically documented history of heart disease with Cheney; of that I have absolutely no doubt. The doctors at George Washington University Hospital even did a formal press conference when Cheney had another "event" (and the placement of a stent) following the 2000 election.

On edit: And don't hold that against the good doctors at GWU. They have an amazing cardiac team, and they're not politically in the same camp as Cheney. :-)


That said, he could have dressed up as befits a world leader at a solemn event. The guy's a millionaire and lived in Wyoming, which is hardly the tropics. Are there no black wool coats, special thermal underwear and gloves, fur hats and the like he could have worn to the 60th anniversary of the liberation of one of the most notorious death camps of the 20th century?

Cheney deserves to be harshly criticized for this. The problem is, as James Wolcott said in another context, is that these people are never sorry and never wrong. Don't expect the press to be rough on Cheney about this, and don't expect the administration to do anything but prance around declaring their own righteousness.

These people make me sick.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:48 PM
Response to Reply #86
223. Men's black shearling or leather are available.
Either would be warmer than a wool or cashmere overcoat.
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:14 PM
Response to Reply #42
136. Excellent point, Leesa.
"should have gone as one of the developers."
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #10
92. Low slung pants with your butt crack showing
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 01:44 PM by Carni
Are also "common" in the US... but that doesn't mean I want to see the VP of the United States sporting them at a somber international event of this magnitude.

The man is a disgrace/period.
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Stuckinthebush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:52 PM
Response to Reply #92
96. You just had to put that image in my mind
Yes...Cheney is a disgrace, but do you really believe he was getting dressed and looked over at his wife and said, "Screw 'em...it's cold. I'm not dressing up for this damn thing!" I seriously doubt it.

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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:06 PM
Response to Reply #96
103. Add a butterfly tatoo LOL
But seriously I think Cheney is just that arbitrary...

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TwentyFive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:22 PM
Response to Reply #10
112. I agree with you.
I am not bothered by Cheney's parka. I think it shows character to take care of one's health over what people will say about the clothes you have on. And, maybe he was coming down with a cold or something.

However, I think the occasion deserved Bush being there.
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IceOwl Donating Member (64 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:47 PM
Response to Reply #10
124. It's not hard.
You can buy a well-insulated and good-looking wool peacoat for as much as a ski jacket. As much as he gets paid, it only shows a lack of effort when he dresses like that.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:34 AM
Response to Original message
12. He looks sorta like one a those girly men
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 11:35 AM by Rose Siding
"%@$#%@$%#^@#%@$%$@ YOU, Rose" says Vice, feeling better for it.
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ElectroPrincess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:46 AM
Response to Reply #12
31. don't disrespect (or underestimate) us GIRLS ...
Cheney looks like a disrespectful a**hole that we all know and resent. Trust me on this = Cheney does NOTHING that is not well considered. Perhaps he is "dressed down" to appeal to his "Jew hating" hillbilly base ... and other sundered white supremacist Bubbas? It's his little rebel statement that the commemoration of *all* the suffering and deaths of millions of Jews is NOT important enough to dress in formal mourning attire or send the leader of our country.

Excusing all else (embroidered "staff 2001" knit CAP, fluffy trimmed German parka), check out those nasty BROWN hiking boots.

No Cheney dressed like this on purpose. Combined with Bush's absence, it's their (Neo-Con Executive Branch) way of thumbing their nose at all things European.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:52 AM
Response to Reply #31
35. He was also wearing an orange tie, according to the Sun-Times
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 11:55 AM by Rose Siding
which, imo is just a little to contemporary to be respectful in a nat'l representative kind of way...

snip>
Dateline -- The support line ... Sneed hears Vice President Dick Cheney sported an orange tie Wednesday when he attended the ceremony in Oswiecim, Poland, marking the 60th anniversary of the liberation of the Auschwitz death camp.

Why the orange cravat?

*Answer: It was Cheney's visual support for Ukraine's new President Viktor Yuschenko, who also attended the ceremony, and his "Orange revolution" -- a term used for the peaceful protest that helped overturn a rigged first election -- according to a top Sneed source who was there.

(down on page)
http://www.suntimes.com/output/sneed/cst-nws-sneed28a.h...

edit- this may have been the day before, but my criticism stands considering that too was a ceremony marking the Auschwitz anniversary.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #31
62. yes, done on purpose
as a way to show the Bush administration's contempt for all things not American. They don't feel they need to follow the rules - any rules. The mouthbreather crowd will eat this crap up.

what an embarrassment.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:34 AM
Response to Original message
13. PHOTOS of the victims....these people are much older than cheney
It's truly pathetic that cheney refused to show some respect for these Victims...




A survivor of the Auschwitz death camp stands near the monument during a ceremony in Birkenau, January 27, 2005. World leaders and elderly survivors of the Nazi death camp Auschwitz gathered in Poland on Thursday to mark the 60th anniversary of its liberation by Soviet troops and remember the victims of the Holocaust. Set up in 1940 by the occupying Nazis, Auschwitz was initially a labor camp for Polish prisoners but gradually grew into a death factory for European Jews shipped there from around Europe and Russia. REUTERS/Katarina Stoltz



A concentration camp survivor wipes a tear during a ceremony at the former death camp Auschwitz Birkenau, January 27, 2005. World leaders and elderly survivors of the Nazi death camp Auschwitz gathered in Poland on Thursday to mark the 60th anniversary of its liberation by Soviet troops and remember the victims of the Holocaust. REUTERS/Katarina Stoltz


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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:37 AM
Response to Reply #13
16. Oh Man, I Teared Up
looking at those pics...
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Wrinkle_In_Time Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:01 PM
Response to Reply #16
208. Oh shit, those photos got to me too...
... wow.

I guess this means that we have hearts, unlike Cheney. What a fucking arrogant, piece of 5897890wskjhiu

\]o9y7r5%^$^&()(

uyt%$899


...sorry. English just didn't seem to convey my disgust with him. Random, violent keystrokes were much more accurate. Cheney owes me a new keyboard.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:37 PM
Response to Reply #13
218. the RED triangle on the Victims sash...indicates a political prisoner
and includes the Prisoner Number, which was also tatoed on the Victim...

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/b...

Here is the nazi prisoner identification system....








from the Jewish Virtual Library...a very good source for Holocaust History...and other information about Israel, religion, etc.
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/index.html
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Dulcinea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:36 AM
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14. He should have worn something appropriate for a winter funeral.
Because that's basically what this was!

Or, did he just want to stand out?
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:37 AM
Response to Original message
15. maybe he was going duck hunting afterwards
mabye Scalia was waiting in parking lot with the engine running.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:39 AM
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17. He looks like he's dressed for a snowball
fight out in the backyard with the grandkids - completely inappropriate and disrespectful. What an embarrassment.
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Liberty Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:39 AM
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18. As much as I despise Cheney, I don't fault him on this.
He's an old man with heart problems and poor health. I have chronic neck/back pain and recently bought a similar parka that's down-filled, knee length and has a fur-trimmed hood (only because I couldn't find one this warm without the fur). It is the warmest, most comfortable coat I've ever had. I wear it to many places where it may see inappropriate to others, from formal affairs to trips to the mall on cool days.

It has made my life much more bearable by keeping my neck and back joints warm. Cheney is a Wyoming man and knows full well the importance of dressing warm in cold weather. If I had attended this ceremony, I'd have done the same thing.

AAAch, I can't believe I'm actually agreeing with something this nutcase has done!
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:42 AM
Response to Reply #18
23. Sorry, That's Bullshit
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 11:45 AM by Beetwasher
He's the VP. If he doesn't want (or can't because of his heart) to dress appropriately for these occasions he should give the job up. He dressed appropriately for his swearing in and it was just as cold. Dressing appropriately is part of his fucking job. He's a douchebag for doing this and it clearly shows he doesn't fucking give a shit (like we didn't already know that)

"Just last week, in a frigid, snow-dusted Washington, Cheney sat outside through the entire inauguration without so much as a hat and without suffering frostbite. And clearly, Cheney owns a proper overcoat. The world saw it during his swearing-in as vice president. Cheney treated that ceremony with the dignity it deserved -- not simply through his demeanor, but also through his attire. Would he have dared to take the oath of office with a ski cap on? People would have justifiably considered that an insult to the office, the day, the country."

And you know what else? He could find and afford clothes that are just as warm and a lot more tasteful. Hell, my overcoat is one of the warmest coats I own. He's a fucking douche.

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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:18 PM
Response to Reply #23
55. his staff could have picked up some appropriate attire IN POLAND!


even if he forgot, POLAND has LOTS of nice warm clothes for sale, IN BLACK too....


cheney just doesn't care...he's a PIG....according to the WP, cheney decided DELIBERATELY to wear a knit ski cap with "STAFF 2001" on it....THAT IS REAL INSULTING to the People of Poland, AND to the Holocaust Victims....
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #23
127. Andmany of those other guys were older
and maybe even sicker than our Dick. Shameful.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:11 PM
Response to Reply #23
262. Absolutely!
I also have heart trouble, am two years younger than Darth Cheney, and I have enough damn sense to dress appropriately for somber occasions outdoors.
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:55 AM
Response to Reply #18
39. Those coats come with other colors than "eagle green".
Hell, with all the halliburton kick backs, he could've ordered a nice one too.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:38 PM
Response to Reply #39
70. He looks like a soldier on winter assignment...eom
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:01 PM
Response to Reply #70
82. Dick Cheney? A soldier? LMAO! [eom]
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Phoebe_in_Sydney Donating Member (160 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:16 PM
Response to Reply #39
212. Maybe the parka
was Halliburton issue.

Looks like something workmen would wear in winter climes.
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Enraged_Ape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:00 PM
Response to Reply #18
43. Oh, baloney
Look at the people sitting around and behind him. Every one of them has on a warm winter coat--many fur-lined--with appropriate headgear.

And we know he owns this stuff. He wore it to the simpleton's coronation, for crying out loud.

No, he CHOSE to wear this ridiculous attire because:

a) he is lazy
b) he is disrespectful
c) he doesn't care
d) he wants to thumb his nose at all the other attendees, and indeed, the solemnity of the event
e) all of the above
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:04 PM
Response to Reply #18
46. more PHOTOS: this is how WORLD LEADERS dress for solemn events


German President Horst Koehler, carries a candle as leaders from 30 countries gather to remember the victims of the Holocaust on the 60th anniversary of the liberation of the Nazis' Auschwitz death camp by Soviet troops in Oswiecim, southern Poland on Thursday, Jan. 27, 2005. In background are from right, Polish President, Aleksander Kwasniewski, Russian President, Vladimir Putin, French President, Jacques Chirac and Britain's Prince Edward. (AP Photo/Jockel Finck)


Russian President Vladimir Putin on his way to set a candle on the memorial in the former Nazi concentration camp of Auschwitz-Birkenau, Thursday, Jan. 27, 2005 near Oswiecim, southern Poland. Leaders from 30 countries attended the 60th anniversary of the liberation of the German concentration camp by Soviet troops, Thursday. (AP Photo/Jockel Finck)


U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney....an EMBARRASSMENT TO AMERICA !




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Divine Discontent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:23 PM
Response to Reply #46
196. how could ANYONE excuse the attire????
he's richer than most anyone of us knows!

Here he is in some other photos I found of him playing Cartman on TV and when he went to a costume party as Hitler, you'd think he'd know better? I only WISH I could find the image of "George Costanza" in the puffy jacket! and yes, I really find Cartman (Cheney) offensive, just like the show.




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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 06:00 PM
Response to Reply #46
272. Oh my God. Those pictures are even worse.
Geez Louise. That is just downright embarrassing, I'm sorry, people. He's wearing what looks like a NYLON ski jacket.
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moobu2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:46 PM
Response to Reply #18
76. I understand what you're saying but
You don't represent the country at such an important very somber occasion. He's the vice president for god's sake, it's slightly different.

I cant understand why he would dress like that, it had to be intentional. His staff would have known it was inappropriate.
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Carni Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:02 PM
Response to Reply #18
100. Oh please! Even the survivors are dressed in a standard fashion--
How old are those people? 80? 90?

Like they don't have some aches and pains?

Would he attend a winter service at ground zero dressed in that get up?

This was just his way of thumbing his nose at Europe like others on this string have suggested!
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displacedtexan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:27 PM
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113. Ahem. Here are the pics from the 2005 inaugural...






Sad ceremony.

Very sad, indeed.

Heavy sigh.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:30 PM
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115. The guy has more money than he could ever spend.
He could get something custom-made that was not only warm enough, but formal enough for occasions such as this. You'd think as the VP one of his staff would make sure he had such things, since his fucking bitch of a wife is too busy writing bad novels and parading her grandchildren out dressed as the grim reaper.
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maxudargo Donating Member (306 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:35 PM
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121. Okay, but why olive colored?
If he had worn the same clothes, but the coat had been black or very dark, he wouldn't have stood out so much, and if anybody complained they could have made the arguments you are making. But the olive drab color stands out like a sore thumb against the sea of black. And why the white fur collar sticking up in the air?

If, because of medical concerns or pain, he needs to wear certain clothes to keep him warmer than most in such situations, shouldn't they have appropriately formal-looking clothing available to him?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:02 PM
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131. THAT LOOKS LIKE MILITARY ISSUE TO ME
That is foul/extreme weather gear--he probably got it from Ramstein. I have a coat just like it, issued to me when I was assigned to a very cold place. I've never worn it to a memorial service, though.

What is it with this administration? They just LOVE to wear military clothing, but they don't like to actually SERVE in the military!!!!
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dad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:21 PM
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159. The Air Force gave me the exact same parka
Well, they took it back after my enlistment ended. I really wanted to keep mine, because that parka is SO warm. That is a military issue cold weather parka.
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:40 PM
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175. took it back?????
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dad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:22 PM
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204. -
Sure, you don't get to keep a lot of the stuff they issue you.
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seventythree Donating Member (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:13 PM
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263. didn't know that
sure as heck hope they let soldiers keep their prosthetic leg! Do they reissue those parkas, hopefully cleaned? or hold a big garage sale?
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chaumont58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 01:00 PM
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283. The Air Force took mine back when I changed stations
If I remember correctly, I was only issued a parka at my first permanent party station and never again, even though I went to a station overseas that got cold in the winter(France).
Those things were warm though.
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Wrinkle_In_Time Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:10 PM
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210. Why Olive? Because camo was out of stock...
...I'm sure he wouldn't have hesitated one moment.

It seems that Cheney forgot Poland. I'm not referring to the "Coalition of whatever" but to what Poland went through in the Second World War.

I guess America is lucky that he didn't show up in one of Prince Harry's party costumes.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:06 PM
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134. i`ll agree with you to a point but....if not in america then
i`m sure there are coats in europe that are black and very warm.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:58 PM
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271. Nope, sorry, I can't agree with that.
There IS outerwear that is both formal AND very very warm. He has plenty of money and access. There is no reason in the world for him to have been dressed this way. I would never dress like that for an honorary service for the dead (which is what this was), or a funeral. Never. And I don't have one fraction of the money Cheney has.

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RobertSeattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:40 AM
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20. Funny how Drudge posted the smallest picture he could find
If this had been Bill or Hillary Clinton, Kerry, or Gore, he'd have it up in 640x480 size on the top of the page. What an a-hole.

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fob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:41 AM
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21. His outfit sure fits with his "Why THE FUCK am I here!" look.
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Al-CIAda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:42 AM
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22. Is this what he wears when duck hunting w/Scalea? -eom
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:44 AM
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LOL, Good One! eom
ha!
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:44 AM
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26. What Not To Wear -- Cheney, What An Asshole.
Fucking idiot.
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young_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:44 AM
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27. He REALLY stands out........how very disrespectful of him!
It's hard to believe that he didn't prepare for this solemn occasion with the proper clothing. He has embarrassed out nation.
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snacker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:48 AM
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33. I agree. n/t
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0007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:45 AM
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28. Wish the other's had dumped a barrel of Gator Aid on him and Lynne!
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 11:50 AM by 0007
What a fucking nerd. And America wonders why it is the most hated country in the world!

Just like a genuine slum lord, he doesn't care!
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:45 AM
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29. Well, he was representing W.
Maybe he asked himself, WWWW? What Would W Wear?
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:46 AM
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32. Perhaps he was hoping to slip in Auschwitz between two other events
A game of tennis in Krakaw and an afternoon of skiing in the Carpathians.

You know how American tourists are.
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:50 AM
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34. Go Eagles!
LMAO, what a dumbass
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dhinojosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:53 AM
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36. Prince Harry and Dick ought to go clothes shopping together [eom]
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pandorasox Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:55 AM
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38. You don't think that's really down insulation in the parka, do you?
We're talking layers of kevlar and 40 pounds of bulletproof gel here.
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fooj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:56 AM
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40. Probably the outfit he wears when he does that weird hunting
crap in Montana! What an embarrassment! Don't forget the ONLY reason that he is there! If Rummy were there, they'd arrest the bastard on the spot! Still can't figure out why Cheney has no culpability considering he's Rummy's boss? I mean, technically, isn't Rumsfeld supposed to report to him? Doesn't Cheney give him the OK?
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callous taoboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:56 AM
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41. I'd rather be hunting ducks.....n/t
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harrison Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:02 PM
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44. It's not like Cheney is from the Sunny South. He grew up out West
in the damn cold and he has spent years in diplomatic circles where he knows the importance of appropriate attire since he is representing the United States of America. And another thing, a little discomfort in the cold should have been nothing for Cheney, especially when people who survived these death camps were there.

I loathe these people. I really do.

William Faulkner saw it coming: we are under the control of the Snopes. We have two Snopes in charge of our government.

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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:02 PM
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45. He should have dressed in proper attire for such an event.
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 12:05 PM by CottonBear
He was seated with various heads of state such as the president of Poland: Aleksander Kwasniewski and his wife Jolanda, Israel's President Moshe Katsav, Russian president Vladimir Putin, Jacques Chirac of France, Prince Edward of Great Britain, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, Prince Joachim of Denmark, Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden and Grand Duke Henri of Luxembourg, among others. I believe that the survivors deserved more respect from the US. At the very least, a black parka, pants, shoes and hat would have been more appropriate.


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Sequoia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:14 PM
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54. What a great photo, thank you.
If it was so cold for him then where are his mittens?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:23 PM
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56. It is a powerful image.
I have not been able to post more photos. That was actually my first ever photo post! I got that one from the Glittering Royal Events message board: http://members3.boardhost.com/Oranjes/index.html

There are many excellent photos of the event here. Just page down through the other posts at the top of the board.

There are also excellent posts showing photos of QEII meeting with survivors in London. One man is showing her his yellow Star of David patch that the Nazis made the Jews wear. Very sad.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:48 PM
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94. Sombering Photo.
Thanks. Beautiful! It tells it all.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:05 PM
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47. What does the hat say? -clearer in this shot
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:11 PM
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51. WP: dick's knit ski cap says: "Staff 2001"....THAT is a real insult

certainly dick could have found a spiffier hat somewhere in Poland, or borrowed one from his GIGANTIC STAFF travelling on his VP jet...

-snip- from the WP article...

Instead, it was a knit ski cap, embroidered with the words "Staff 2001." It was the kind of hat a conventioneer might find in a goodie bag.
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ps1074 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:34 PM
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66. it says
www.jackson

and then it is unreadable. Are there more photos? I did a search on google for 'www.jackson' and found a couple dozens sites that include it in their URLs. There is one site about Jackson Hole, WY. Might be this is it?
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 06:03 PM
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273. Looks like it says www.jacksonhole.
near his ear. As in a ski resort in Jackson Hole, Wyoming.

Now I'm convinced. He was saying "fuck you" to SOMEONE. Clearly. That was just too over the top.
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:06 PM
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49. What a friggin idjit!
Don't worry Dick, we'll wear our Sunday Best when you croak!
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PunkPop Donating Member (847 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:13 PM
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52. Oh God
The picture says it all - all you need to know about the careless, criminal thugs who are running our country.

That hat looks like the one at the bottom of my drawer with all the other ski gear I haven't worn in 12 years.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:14 PM
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53. Imagine if Kerry and the Dems wore ski attire 1/20
Cheney sticks out like a sore thumb in the picture - how rude! I hope this happens to get printed in the various Jewish papers. If it does LTE are called for!

If Kerry, who actually looked great in ski attire, would have worn it to the 1/20, the complaints would still be being written.

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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:43 PM
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75. That's NOT ski attire...it's more like hunting clothes....


to call that "ski attire" adds too much civility to what cheney did....

cheney wore clothes that are for HUNTING....or like the WP remarked: for operating a snow-blower....
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Virginian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:23 PM
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Appropriate clothing In the stadium for a ball game.
Doesn't Haliburton pay him enough to afford decent clothing? We know the airline didn't lose his suitcase.
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no_to_war_economy Donating Member (962 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:23 PM
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57. his mind is definitely on other things (pic)
all he needs is a lift ticket with that parka

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:38 PM
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88. good pic
Although, I don't think it is skiing he is thinking about. The sick fuck is probably getting ideas for us "un-American" liberals! He looks like he is at a fucking football game! At least he isn't grinning like that boob of a boss would have been!
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mahina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:52 PM
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97. Photoshop fairies, please put a clown nose and clown shoes on this pic...
I need to learn how to do that!
Or bunny slippers with pink ears, that would be good too..
I'll have to use my imagination for now.

When I go east, no matter what I buy ahead of time I look like a doofus for a while, just like when people come here & wear what they think passes for local clothes they look kinda silly. (Sorry. Just for a while. )

But I'm not representing my nation at an historic event, showing respect for massive suffering and loss of life. He has embarassed out whole country. (Not that this is the first time...)

Too bad he isn't getting a blow job!
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ktowntennesseedem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:06 PM
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133. I think he just needs a couple of beers, and he'd be set!!!
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 06:05 PM
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274. Not even his shoes are appropriate for the occasion,
though they do go with the casualness of the outfit he is wearing.

And what's up with having his name embroidered on the jacket? It's like a child or something. Not a single other head of state (or equivalent) has their NAME frigging embroidered on their clothing.

Why do bush and cheney hate America so much that they want to constantly embarrass and shame us?
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harrison Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:24 PM
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58. Don't be so hard on Dick. He probably had to go to Bitburg like
Reagan did. He was really going to be out in the cold a long time. And, by the way, would you look at his body language? Really seems taken by the ceremonies, doesn't he?

Again, I loathe these people.
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dqueue Donating Member (226 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:27 PM
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59. Transcript of his speech?
Anyone have a transcript of his speech? I heard one blurb on NPR that almost sounded threatening... remember bush's inauguration speech where he repeated the "fires of democracy" or some schtick... well, i swear i heard cheney say something about offending the jewish people and reigning fire upon the offenders...
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:36 PM
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67. link
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PartyPooper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:27 PM
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60. "Cheney Chic". Oh my. It looks like he's even wearing brown footwear.
:eyes:
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kuozzman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:28 PM
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63. Somebody needs to post this at Free Republic.
I'd love to see their reaction.
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:37 PM
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69. they'll probably wonder
why he wasn't wearing a nazi armband....


onenote
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:49 PM
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151. It's already there.
95% of them think he looks perfectly all right.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1330739/posts

To: Bigturbowski

He can wear what he damn well pleases!

6 posted on 01/28/2005 10:09:45 AM PST by RAY (They that do right are all heroes!)
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To: Bigturbowski
I Bet he was warmer than anyone there. Since when do you have to be a "Fashion Plate" to visit Auschwitz?
7 posted on 01/28/2005 10:09:47 AM PST by areafiftyone

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To: Bigturbowski

Vice-President Cheney, with his medical condition, is probably on blood thinners. He chills very easily, if that is the case.

36 posted on 01/28/2005 10:15:13 AM PST by raisincane (Bush, Cheney, Rice, Rumsfield - A Great US Team
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To: Sterco

Auschwitz was liberated by the US military and wearing a military parka was totally symbolic and very appropriate.

38 posted on 01/28/2005 10:15:21 AM PST by aspiring.hillbilly
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:26 PM
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162. isn't this precious...
Auschwitz was liberated by the US military and wearing a military parka was totally symbolic and very appropriate.

First of all, this freeptoid needs to know his history - Auschwitz was liberated by the Red Army.

Second, it was militarism that helped to create the death camps, and for a civilian to wear military garb was totally inappropriate and tasteless.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:30 PM
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166. Someone needs to teach Freepers some history
Auschwitz was liberated by the Russians.

What idiot responses - you don't have to be a "Fashion Plate" to visit Auschwitz.

:grr:
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Lauri Donating Member (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:11 PM
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211. But Freepers live in their own "reality"
History is what ever they believe - the truth forgotten or ignored
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tom_paine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:31 PM
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64. Actually I think his dress is in keeping wit Ruthless Dick's thoughts
"Man, maybe it would have been better for all of us if Hitler had finished those Liberal Jews off once and for all."

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catmandu57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:32 PM
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65. I wonder how this will affect our relationship with Isreal?
It seems to me this would be something that all Israelis would take very very seriously. I wonder if it will be seen a thumbing his nose, and throw a monkey wrench into the Iran plans?
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Benhurst Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 09:58 AM
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252. I don't think it will help us with the Israeli people; but the
right-wing Israeli government won't care.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:36 PM
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68. Eeee-Gad!
But Mrs. Dickie sure looks good in that $$$ mink hood.
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dryan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:42 PM
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73. What is it with this....
crowd. You would think that people who have been in the public eye as long as the Cheneys have would know what is appropriate at an occassion like this. By why am I not surprised. Mrs. Bush 41 wore a flowered dress with no sleeves to visit the same place when her husband was VP (read it in "The Family).
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Guns Aximbo Donating Member (324 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:40 PM
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71. I bet he was wearing a Leapard skin THONG under that sexy
kevlar coat.
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AuntiBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:42 PM
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72. He's already a "DISGRACE"
to our country, Mr. Haliburton who's stocks were the few that had a great 43.+ high market share yesterday, while other US comp's were severely in the red. Nice job Mr. Vice Commander-of-Thief!

Don't get me started. Bas*$%()(Ds!
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:59 PM
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80. Remember when Kerry wore a ski vest to mass
during the campaign? It is actually quite common for skiers to do that in ski resort areas. And yet Drudge ran a big picture and made a big deal about how inappropriate it was.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:02 PM
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83. cheney is NOT wearing ski attire...he's wearing old hunting clothes


ski attire is MUCH MORE FASHIONABLE.....cheney is wearing old hunting clothes that belong in a muddy duck blind...or as the Washington Post so succintly remarked: what you'd wear for snow-blowing....
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:00 PM
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81. it's cheney's "I don't give a fuck about this crap" outfit...

cheney's choice of outfits for such a solemn occasion was DELIBERATE and insulting.....


don't for one minute think that it wasn't deliberate....cheney has circulated with diplomats for more than 40 years....he KNOWS what to wear, and he WANTED TO SEND his message to the WORLD....

cheney travels in Air Force II, with an entire STAFF, probably as many as 40 people assisting him, or MORE.....

there is NO EXCUSE for throwing on an old knit hat and wearing hunting clothes that belong in a muddy duck blind, rather than at a formal International Diplomatic event....

the message from dick is clear: "I don't give a fuck about all this crap !!!!"
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pfitz59 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 07:51 PM
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189. You are correct , sir!
Cheney's version of wiping his ass on history!
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Mojorabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:04 PM
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84. Is that a military parka?
I have vague memories of my first marriage to a fellow in the AF and living in Japan where it was cold and it seems the gov issue parka was very similar....
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:04 PM
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132. YES, it IS
I noted, above, that it looks like foul weather gear, and I suspect that when he landed, some USAF flunky presented him with his playsuit, so he could dress up like a warrior. Lame ass fool!
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Career Prole Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:40 PM
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146. "Damn!" muttered Dick. "I thought Fascist Fashion was groovy!"
Or should it just be called "fascion"? :puke:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:14 PM
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85. this is excellent. it shows the ultra-rich what they bought by bringing
this scum back into office. thoughtless, mindless thugs.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:39 PM
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89. Wear the appropriate costume Dick.
Clothes do make the man/woman, especially in politics. Especially in world politics. Especially when you are representing a country at a very solemn event.

It doesn't matter if you agree that the "appropriate costume" is good or necessary and you modify it to make it work (for instance wear lots of warm clothes underneath). However, if you are going to represent a country and show respect, you just have to do this. Like wearing a suit to work. Who ever thought that a boxy suit and tie were comfortable or even decent to wear should be hung over a shark tank. They aren't. But they are the costume to wear to business meetings in the USA. The costume to wear to somber occasions in Europe is not what cheney has on.
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TedsGarage Donating Member (159 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:43 PM
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91. Hey, it was cold out!
I have a topcoat, and it looks nice, but it's just not warm enough for a lot of these Chicago winter days. Basically, that distinguished-man garment sends the message, "I only have to walk from my heated car to my heated office." Bravo to Cheney for dressing for the weather, not for show. More people should.
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:02 PM
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101. One word: layers
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 02:03 PM by CottonBear
silk long underwear, sock liners and glove liners; merino wool socks, leather dress boots with Gore-Tex liners, merino wool mid-layers, dress shirt with wool sweater, winter weight wool suit, wool scarf, heavy wool overcoat, fur-lined leather gloves with Gore-Tex and a fur hat.

I spend lots of time outdoors with my horse in all types of weather. If you've got the money, you can stay warm and be stylish.

edit: sp. and punctuation
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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:34 PM
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119. It's called respect!
I live in Chicago too, and if I were going to a cemetery, I would suck it up, and wear the proper attire. No excuse!
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conflictgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:56 PM
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128. So if that was really Cheney's thought process in dressing this way...
Why didn't he dress similarly for the inauguration?
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onenote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:59 PM
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129. bull
Did you take a look at the pictures of the Holocaust survivors? Do you think they're sending the message "I only have to walk from my heated car to my heated office"? ANd what do you think the prisoners at Auschwitz were given to wear during the freezing winters? Parkas? Cheney looks like an ass.

And I don't buy the speculation that this was some sort of staff fuckup. If that was the case they wouldn't have hesitated to issue an explanation before the fact. If they claim staff error now, they're just making up an excuse.

onenote
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 04:50 PM
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152. You need a better topcoat, then n/t
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:25 PM
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161. Then why didn't he wear his parka to the inauguration?
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Wrinkle_In_Time Donating Member (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:45 AM
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224. Nice apology...
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 12:49 AM by Wrinkle_In_Time
...do you really live in Chicago? I live in Toronto. Our weather is usually similar, yet your post makes no sense to me. This week, it got down to -20C (-4F), not counting windchill. I didn't have an Auschwitz ceremony to go to, I'm not the VP of the U.S.A. and I don't have his staff -- yet I dressed better than he did. It's all a matter of giving a flying fuck. I do, he obviously doesn't.

Bravo to Cheney for dressing for the weather, not for show. More people should.

Yeah, those other peasants there obviously had no idea how to dress for the weather/occasion. I mean, they dressed nothing like him. Thank God (Mammon?) Cheney was there to show them how it should be done. Bravo, indeed. :+

{On Edit: it occurs to me that you were being ironic: deeply, deeply ironic -- in a manner rarely witnessed on DU. If so, I apologise for thinking that you were a dickhead and I applaud your post. If not, then guess what I think of you.}
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VegasWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 01:47 PM
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93. All europeans know that bush et al have no class, just a bunch of
rich cowboys.
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Neecy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:01 PM
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99. what an appalling, sloppy bastard
Not only can he not dress like a gentleman during a solemn event that most of the world is watching, he can't even sit like one. Looking at him in that ridiculous jacket, slumped in his chair with his legs sprawling open, is disgusting. Then again, that's exactly how his puppet sits - so it makes sense that his puppetmaster uses the exact same posture.

I don't buy the excuses for this behavior. This is clearly a big 'fuck you' to the rest of the world, particularly Europe. I hate these bastards with a white-hot fury.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:09 PM
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108. by his posture, his expressions, and his outfit..the message is "fuck you"

there's no doubt that this was DELIBERATE crap from the vp...just total insults and degradation of the Victims, OUR Country, and the People of Poland....


cheney's old hunting coat, his cheap knit hat with "Staff 2001" on it....sitting with his legs spread out, his complete lack of interest in the program, his facial expressions....it's clear:

"FUCK YOU" is the message.....


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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:45 PM
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220. Yep, but the FUCK YOU is to his BOSS
He's being punished. As one of the architects of the Iraq policy (go in, knock over Saddam, and OIL WILL FLOW LIKE WATER....NOT!!!!) he is taking it up the shorts for the bad decision making. He's being forced to behave like weecowboy's daddy, as a TRADITIONAL VP.

The clothes are a response to the weecowboy...I'll do it, but I WON'T LIKE IT. And I could just make bad situations worse!

Who knows, maybe they had Condi lined up for this gig, and those mean old democrats spoiled it!
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cpamomfromtexas Donating Member (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:07 PM
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105. That jacket was paid for by Taxpayers!
I'm almost positive it is air force issued. Does anyone recognize the patch?
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JawJaw Donating Member (574 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:11 PM
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109. Entirely appropriate fascist chic...
...fetching shade of Guantanamo green,if I'm not mistaken...
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Orsino Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:12 PM
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110. Try as I might, I'm not appalled.
I believe that his fragile health makes such garb essential. The only astounding thing is that a White House protocol specialist allowed him to get away with it.

The man's unutterably evil, though. His mere presence disrupts the solemnity of the event much more than could any unfortunate choice of wardrobe, IMO.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:33 PM
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117. BS, the guy is a multi-millionaire, has the appropriate...
attire which he wore to the inauguration as stated in the WP article and it was cold there too. Note, too, the other foreign representatives managed to dress warmly and still show the right respect for the solemn memorial. His attire reeks of contempt for those he is there to remember, imo.
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:40 PM
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123. Who cares what he wears? It's what he does that's deserves attention.
Since when did proper clothing become so important to DU? I doubt I'm the only one here that dresses like that every day.

Why dilute real criticism of that asshole with a furor over his parka?
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silverpatronus Donating Member (520 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 12:41 PM
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282. even giving you that argument...
he could have, and SHOULD have worn proper pants and shoes. and he couldn't have found a BLACK parka? a proper hat? you may buy it, but i don't. the man's got more money than croesus. i don't buy the argument that he couldn't have a topcoat custom-made to be appropriate AND warm.
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spacedog Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:14 PM
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111. I'm curious
Was ANYONE else at the event dressed with such little apparent consideration?? Anyone have photos?
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CottonBear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:29 PM
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142. see this website:
http://members3.boardhost.com/Oranjes /

Page down to the posts titled "In the UK/QEII" and "Auschwitz ceremony and participants"

There are very moving photos of QEII speaking w/ a survivor who is showing her his Star of David cloth patch.
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:34 PM
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118. It could be worse, I assure you.
I saw some astounding bad taste when I was touring concentration camps for my modern German history coursework.

In Dachau, I saw some idiots chasing each other and throwing snowballs in the campgrounds, across from the crematoria. My research has given me a rare appreciation of the scale of suffering in that place, so their behavior just enraged me. I grabbed one by the arm and asked him in German and in English if he had any idea where he was, and whether he couldn't possibly find a more suitable place to play in the snow. I also saw people posing for photos in the camps like it was Disneyland or something.







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Endangered Specie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:28 PM
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205. Oh you got to be kidding...
a McDonalds near Dachau.. how far? :puke:
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:52 AM
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226. one of my mom's friends lives in the city: it's always a little shock
to see "Dachau" on the return address of the Christmas presents
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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:52 AM
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234. Yeah, it was jarring for me as well.
It also disturbed me to see what appears to be a gradual commercialization of the Holocaust. I don't know how to describe it, but something about the ambience around the camp and even the presentation during the tour didn't seem right to me.
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:25 PM
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259. I visited Dachau in 1971
and locals wouldn't even give us driving directions to the camp. It seemed they didn't want to acknowledge its presence and pretended not to know what we were talking about.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:39 PM
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260. it has really only been in recent years that people opened up to REALITY


just like 'Saving Private Ryan' began the WWII journey to REALITY....the United States deserves a lot of credit for creating Holocaust Memorial Museums (in Detroit first, then DC, and other cities).....which always struck me as ODD that the USA took the lead, when GERMANY should have....most Holocaust Victims were outcasts, even after released from the camps...AMERICA didn't even accept them...in Germany, their homes had other people living there....which brings us to the present Israel/Palestine war...


My friend is an Austrian, who still does NOT believe that there were nazi concentration camps in Austria, and claims that Austria had nothing to do with the Holocaust...hometown: Linz....the DENIAL runs deep, sort of like OUR American DENIAL of the massacres in Iraq....


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American Tragedy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:45 PM
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266. How ironic that Linz of all places would be his hometown.
But it's interesting that you say that. I read in a Central Europe Review article that citizens of Owicim, better known by the German name Auschwitz, acted like they barely knew anything about the Holocaust when they were interviewed, which was astonishing. I guess as people who are so physically removed from it, we tend to expect that people who grow up near the site would be more conscious.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:34 PM
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120. Cheney doesn't degrade Auschwitz
He degrades the entire human race. He and his wife are as evil and inappropriate as they come. It makes me want to believe in hell so I can picture them rotting in it, wearing their stupid parkas.
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98geoduck Donating Member (590 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:26 PM
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197. I thought you were going to say he embraces it.
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grace0418 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:08 AM
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240. Well that's true too
He is evil incarnate.
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Dems4HowardDean Donating Member (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:39 PM
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122. It was his parka from his Vietnam days LOL
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:01 PM
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130. back in the old days-the 60`s-we used
to call them "junkie coats" cause alot of junkies around here wore them. when ever i see these coats it always reminds my of some strung out junkie trying to stay warm....
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:12 PM
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135. There is absolutely no excuse for the way he was dressed.
I don't know what the rest of the article. I need to go to bugmenot and get s sign-in. Nevertheless, none of the excuses I've seen here make any sense.

Lynn seems to be dressed appropriately. You mean she didn't say, "What the hell? I'm not going out with you dressed like that."

If he's cold or worried about his health, I'm sure he's heard about "layering". With layers of the right material, one can be toasty warm.

Also, a high-quality overcoat would do the job. And an aide would have to be brain-dead not to know this is highly inappropriate. Just look at him! Looks like he's going to a football game. Embarrassing!Sheesh!!
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Rochambeau Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:20 PM
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140. Shame on you Mr.Cheney. n/t
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KitSileya Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:21 PM
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141. How disrespectful.
Mr. Cheney would do well to remember that Jews were not the only victims of these camps; gays and lesbians, amongst others, were also targets of the Nazis. Had he and his family lived in Germany 65 years ago, his daughter and most likely his wife would have been shipped off as well.
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kainah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:35 PM
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144. something else about this
I can't ever remember a previous ceremony honoring the liberation of Auschwitz or any other concentration camp. I remember a few times when anniversaries were noted but never anything like this. (And I think I would remember an Auschwitz celebration because 1/27 is my brother's birthday.) It seems odd to me that, suddenly, on the 60th anniversary, there is suddenly so much publicity for it.

Not that I think it shouldn't be observed -- it should. But why not on the 40th anniversary? Or the 50th? Or the 30th? Those are usually big anniversaries. In fact, I've been told that the 40th anniversary of an event is usually one of the largest because, by then, the passions of the event have cooled sufficiently and those who were involved are of an age to have some influence. But the 60th? By then, most of those involved are dead.

Or is that why we have waited that long to remember this event???

I just find it very curious.
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geniph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:36 PM
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145. Typical complete lack of class
He stands out in that picture like a wino at a wedding. How embarrassing that America is represented by that mean, classless, rude old man.
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Albert Cirrus Donating Member (39 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:49 PM
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147. What an idiot!!!!!
I would expect this from bush, but not cheney. Cheney is suppose to be the smarter one. Idiot!!!!!
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:12 PM
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156. What an arrogant disrespectful slob
And walking around with his name embroidered on his clothing?

Who the fuck does he think he is, King Shit???

Maybe the egotistical bastard knew full well what he was doing by dressing differently and he just wanted to stand out and be noticed.

But instead by example he leads all of the other countries to think that all of us here in the U.S. are just a bunch of fools.

Good job, you Dick.
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54anickel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:17 PM
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157. Ann Telnaes wasted no time coming up with a toon
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Merlin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:17 PM
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158. Does anybody have a pic of his innaugural attire?
I sure as hell didn't watch or even read about it in the papers. Perhaps some other brave soul has a link or a pic?
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:27 PM
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163. Cheney's Inauguration Picture
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:28 PM
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164. Look above at post #113
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:32 PM
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168. The pic is further up in this thread, and
as one can see...he DOES own a black overcoat.

I'm gonna say it again...if sitting there wearing that crappy stocking cap and parka isn't saying "fuck you", I don't know what is.
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neweurope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:29 PM
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165. It's not lack of class. And it's not because he's a sick man. I'm an
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 05:31 PM by neweurope
equally sick female. And I'm not a multimillionaire with aides... I'd rather freeze for hours. EVERYBODY would rather freeze. I agree with the poster here who said it's supposed to be "military", and I agree with the poster who said it's supposed to say "Fuck you all". The Germans usually don't criticize the US, quite the contrary (to my everlasting regret) but THIS even made it to the German news. I see the man - and the guys behind him - and then I picture Mr. Chirac against him.

"Mr." Chirac.

It was an insult to everybody there. Seeing as Cheney is an excellent politician: a calculated insult.

-----------

Remember Fallujah

Bush to The Hague!
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ultraist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:30 PM
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167. Wearing clothing associated with the military is pretty insensitive
to wear to a ceremony that is recognizing how millions were killed by a military. Seems to me he could have worn an overcoat, instead of a HUNTING jacket. That's just gross.
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Gingersnapsback Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:32 PM
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170. My Polish roommate sent me the Polish headlines
He embarrassed us Internationally again.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:42 PM
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176. What was the headline? eoq
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:34 PM
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172. Lynne's first choice for the event
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Nostradammit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:50 AM
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225. LMAO!!!
Perfect!
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No Exit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 05:37 PM
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173. Maybe he can't afford a dress overcoat and hat
Next, we'll see one of those hungry children ads, with little Dicky staring out at us with hollow, hungry eyes, as the narrator says, "Won't you please help Dicky? 5 cents a day from everyone watching can feed and clothe a child in a Third World country (the United States)!"

The photo absolutely screams for a South Park takeoff...
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retnavyliberal Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 06:14 PM
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180. Just to let you all know....
That looks like a standard military issue Winter Weather Parka, so at least he did not pay for it. We did.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 06:46 PM
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187. He still looks like a scumbag.
Thanks for representing America, Cheney!
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 06:35 PM
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184. San Diego paper went so far as to mention Cheney's dark overcoat
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 06:36 PM by gristy
So :wtf: is going on here?

www.signonsandiego.com/news/world/20050128-0553-cheney....

The Soviet Army freed prisoners at the camps on Jan. 27, 1945, as the war neared its end. Between 1 million and 1.5 million prisoners perished in gas chambers or died of starvation and disease at Auschwitz and Birkenau. Overall, 6 million Jews were killed in the Holocaust.

Large snowflakes fell on Cheney's dark overcoat as he and his daughter Liz paused at a wall where Nazi police executed at least 3,000 prisoners. Without words, they placed a bouquet of red and ivory roses at the base of what is called the Wall of Death.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 07:52 PM
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190. PHOTO: dick in a DARK OVERCOAT, also taken at Auschwitz...
Edited on Fri Jan-28-05 07:59 PM by diamond14
apparently, dick did have a suitable DARK OVERCOAT with him...which he wore at a different event, also at Auschwitz...

this new PHOTO makes it even more clear that dick DELIBERATELY insulted the Jewish VICTIMS, the American People (who he was representing, since bush* was too lazy to go), the Polish People and actually, the WHOLE WORLD...DELIBERATE, nasty, rude, insulting....



U.S. Vice President dick cheney and his daughter Liz Cheney walk towards the Death Wall to lay flowers in the former Nazi death camp Auschwitz, in Oswiecim, southern Poland



with an old knit hat that says: "Staff 2001", and a MILITARY JACKET...it doesn't get more insulting than this...an embarrassment to America....



dick: "FUCK YOU"
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Gingersnapsback Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 07:54 PM
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191. Paid journalist perhaps? Blind eye? Mistaken idenity?
Posing as an undercover agent? :hippie:
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malmapus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 07:54 PM
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192. Sore thumb, party of one..your seat is ready...N/T
eom
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Gingersnapsback Donating Member (150 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 07:57 PM
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194. If any one asks about it , I bet he tells them to go f***themselves.
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Mr_Spock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 07:56 PM
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193. Cock Cheney Dick Monkey
I dunno - it sounded good in my head :D

Fuck Dick.
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Piperay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:20 PM
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195. What happened to the 'adults being
back in charge'. :wtf:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:38 PM
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198. This is an Air Force survival jacket
I would assume that the airlift wing that runs the presidential and vice-presidential aircraft keep these on board for use if the aircraft lands before it's supposed to.

As for his name, it was probably embroidered onto the jacket when he was first sworn in. Probably every other VP has had one just like it, and when they become former VPs the flight crew presents them with the jackets as parting gifts.

This doesn't explain why he felt the need to wear the damn thing to this very solemn ceremony...I vote for the "I did it to say Fuck You" explanation.
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Blue Belle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 08:56 PM
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200. How Disrespectful... What an Ass...
Good Lord. It's not like we expect him to be a fashionista (because he is.. well.. Dick Cheney)... but could he at least have some decorum and show a little respect?? He looks like he's going to a football tailgater... not a commemoration ceremony. What a Jackass. Did he not get the memo that it might be frowned upon if he shows up looking like "Nanook from the North"?? I'm sure it is tough to find footwear to hide those cloven hooves of his... but honestly, Hiking Boots?? Did he want to give the German Security Guards a few pointers in marching in lock-step? Once again... we hold that Ugly American banner high, don't we? Good Lord... if this is the best the Bush Administration could do in the name of Diplomacy, then I'm afraid we're all screwed (as if we didn't know that November 3rd).
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:04 PM
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201. yes !...that's bush* diplomacy...that and "Bring it On"...and of course


dick cheney on the U.S. Senate floor: "Fuck You"


It's all part of the bush* perpetual war program...bringing death and destruction to all corners of the world, in the name of 'liberty' and 'freedom'....
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:19 PM
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202. thanks for showing us how you really feel, dick.
apparently it wasn't an important enough event to dress up.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:20 PM
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203. and lets be real, he's a neo-nazi, not just a neo-con
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Andyjunction Donating Member (167 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:30 PM
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206. That pic is begging for a photoshop
With all the people I've been hearing on other message boards saying things like "we don't care what anyone thinks aout us" I've come up with an idea...

Someone needs to photoshop a big foam-rubber hand on to Cheney like they sell at football games. Slap it over his glove so it looks as natural as possible. He does look like he's at a football game anyway with his disrespectful outfit.

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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:21 PM
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215. OMG and I saw this kicked AFTER I did the picture!
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NurseLefty Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:38 PM
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221. Dickhead is as Dickhead does.
Gawd, I hate this guy.
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bobbieinok Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 12:53 AM
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227. FL2000 Baker goes to 'save' W; says about mess with retired Jewish
votes......didn't he say something like 'the Jews?? F*** 'em; they don't vote for us'

at the same time TV pundits were going ballistic over some comment H Clinton supposedly made years ago in AR
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:05 AM
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228. PHOTO-shopped cheney photo....thanks to DUers....you're the best


cheney is a real ass....this revelation about cheney's diplomatic skills should wake up a few Americans...



thanks to DUer BrklynLiberal




thanks to DUer Bluebear
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:41 AM
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230. LOL!
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 01:44 AM by lebkuchen
Excellent photoshops. I'm sending them on w/o explanation.

Europe is very formal, especially for occasions like this. Cheney's informality during the ceremony commemorating the million and a half plus who died in Auschwitz is way beyond poor taste.

Here is an excellent Der Spiegel piece on what one experiences when visiting Auschwitz.

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,33...
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:53 AM
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235. PLUS...sitting there with an old knit cap that says "STAFF"

is incredible.....what message is cheney giving to the world....that he wants to be part of the STAFF at Auschwitz??????


America is embarrassed....

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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:27 AM
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236. Makes you wonder
Did he think he was a roadie for a rock concert?

Elie Wiesel, Schroeder, Chirac et al must have been nonplussed.
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diamond14 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:44 AM
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237. no....dick is currently directing TWO wars that have KILLED more than
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 02:51 AM by diamond14


100,000 innocent Iraqi/Afganistan People....


so perhaps, dick thinks he'd like to be part of the STAFF at one of his own Auschwitz-type detention camps....afterall, dick has also encouraged the killings at Abu Garib prison, and other American torture camps...and is currently running several torture DETAINEE camps, with no right to trial......it's only a small step from there to an "Auschwitz"....dick operates in such secrecy, for all we know, he's already begun....


dick has no heart...
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lebkuchen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 02:57 AM
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239. The Jews who were able to escape the camps
and tell others in the ghettos what was happening were largely ignored. Nobody believed that civilization could deteriorate to such a cold-blooded level. Some of those unbelievers even ended up paying for their own trip to Auschwitz.

How many times has the scenario taken place in the US, that those who know have to tear their hair out trying to convince others that our country is not about democracy and freedom but rather, occupation, subjugation, death and destruction?
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Rochambeau Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:26 AM
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229. Imagine freepers' comments if Chirac would have wear the same outrageous
Edited on Sat Jan-29-05 01:30 AM by Rochambeau
costume !!!



Honestly, if it didn't happen in such an important and grave moment I would be falling off my chair laughing ! Look at this specific picture with cold head and it becomes priceless. He do looks like a perfect dumbass, the kind of cretinus nerd who never understand the party rules and who's the one the whole college is mocking at year long.
Just let apart the tragical context one second and it's the humourous pic of the year.

Sometimes it's better to laugh rather than cry...<sarcasm off.


:( :( :( :( :(
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Rochambeau Donating Member (469 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:41 AM
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231. One of the excuses given on Freak Republikkk....LOL
"Auschwitz was liberated by the US military and wearing a military parka was totally symbolic and very appropriate."

No wonder why....actually no wonder why they did vote for him and his puppet...
It's so pathetic.
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aikido15 Donating Member (637 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:50 AM
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233. Liberated by whom?
"Auschwitz was liberated by the US military and wearing a military parka was totally symbolic and very appropriate."

That is pretty funny considering Aushwitz was liberated by Russia, not the US!

Freepers, sick neocon freepers, the lot of them.

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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 06:01 AM
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249. No WAAAAY!!! Freepers said that??? Really???!!! My GAWD they're
even dumber than I'd thought!

Talk about rewriting history...US liberated Auschwitz???!!

:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:43 AM
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232. What an arrogant
@*$^&*%^&@%^&@@&$(^!$$ and he does represent and show what the U$ is!
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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:14 AM
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241. After too much time in An Undisclosed Location...
Cheney thinks he's invisible.
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paulie5 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:08 AM
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244. Cheney is scum
What a thoughtless piece of shit this weirdo is. Sad part is when Bush finally dies choking on a pretzel, this sorry piece of a blob of flesh will be preznit.

This man is a national disgrace. And I still don't see the light at the end of our tunnel of the darkness they have led us into.

We must all band together and not give up the fight. We MUST take our country back from these thugs. Just because you have money doesn't make you a class act. Cheney is the political equivalent of a washed up porn star.

I am still waiting for themselves to shoot themselves in the foot. Even though they have been doing it all along, soon or a later the Humpty Dumpty factor will be their downfall. The sooner the better. Too bad it will probably be later than sooner.

Paulie5 ( aka skypilot 18)
www.skypilotclub.com

a division of the Merry Pranksters
Yer either on the bus or under it.
Best to be on it. Being under it can cause you physical problems

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 06:48 PM
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278. Isn't Dick already preznit?
Reportedly he carries the "football" --the presidential emergency response kit.

Reagan + Bush I + Dan Quayle = Dubya. Dubya is the :) on the true face of this administration. An administration running back to Reagan and Nixon.

2004 "election" was proof that many Americans want the goofball "I could have a beer with him" guy they find non-threatening. More serious, thoughtful, (god forbid, policy wonk!) candidates like Gore and Kerry make folks who don't want to think, uncomfortable.

Vanity Fair published photos a year or two ago of the Bush administration cohorts, shot by Annie Liebowitz. They were candid, close up, full frontal portraits in black and white. Looking into the eyes of those people was staring into the abyss. Surprising that the photos were ever released.

Cheney's slouchy demeanor at Auschwitz reveals someone who knows he doesn't even have to pretend to care what anyone else on the planet thinks.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 03:53 AM
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243. Come on Folks, They lost his luggage.....
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paulie5 Donating Member (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:19 AM
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245. Come on Folks, They lost his luggage.....
"Come on Folks, They lost his luggage....."

Too bad they couldn't have lost Cheney and saved the luggage. Or just lost both items. But they should have lost Cheney first. Luggage always turns up soon or a later. Dick the prick is another matter. Too bad we are paying for his big jet and those awful football tailgate party clothes.

Paulie5 (aka skypilot 18)
www.skypilotclub.com

always on the bus.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 04:35 AM
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246. Hell, Lynn is dressed better...
and whats with the cords.......
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tinfoilinfor2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 09:36 AM
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251. Why stop there?
They should have sent along Asscroft and Rice to make it even more entertaining. Asscroft could have given his stirring rendition of "Where the Eagle Shits" while Condi chants along "I am not a liar, I am not a liar." I think they missed the boat on this one!
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:10 AM
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253. Not only does he act and look like a fool,
The dickless dick is typical of todays politicians that are totally disconnected from the realities of life and their fellow man.
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rudlop Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 10:26 AM
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255. I guess Stan, Kyle, and Cartman couldnt make it. n/t
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WeirdHoward Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:29 PM
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264. A closeup of Cheney's hat
This is from the dailykos, a closeup of Cheney's hat... with a URL on it, for some ski resort.


A larger version can be found at:
http://cache.gettyimages.com/comp/52071429.jpg?x=x&dasi...
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WeirdHoward Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 01:32 PM
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265. And my favorite (Photoshopped)
This pretty much sums up Cheney's attitude:


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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:49 PM
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269. he looks like he knows that he was out of placed
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 06:13 PM
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277. What's that patch on the right hand side of his jacket???
Please, please, please don't tell me that's the patch of a military unit/regiment??? Please?

God, that would make it even WORSE.
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Bouncy Ball Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 05:50 PM
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270. And again, I get to drop my head, shake it sadly
and feel totally embarrassed for my country.

DAMMIT, STOP EMBARRASSING THE CRAP OUT OF THOSE OF US WHO HAVE SOME SENSE AND DECENCY YOU ASSHOLES!!!!!

Shit. He looks like a fucktard.
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bajamary Donating Member (427 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 06:07 PM
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275. It signals his contempt

The VP is a professional person/bureaucrat/CEO who clearly knows that how one is dressed can say a great deal about the person. Either that or all those multi thousand dollar suits he and W wear are just for kicks.

So dressing in a ski outfit parka and mountain boots at such a solemn occasion reveals exactly what he wished, that the USA is an island unto itself, where the brave men from Texas and Wyoming need not gussy up like those other presidents, premiers and religious leaders. Heck no, they're the kings of America. Why should they dress properly at a ceremony that marked the liberation of one of the most atrocious places the modern world has ever seen?

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kitty1 Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-29-05 06:07 PM
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276. the Cheney line of Winterwear
Now at Walmart. For the suave and sophisticated international look. Warm and practical for all occasions. Commemorations or Superbowl game. So versatile.
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Puglover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-30-05 05:55 AM
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280. What is astounding to me is how
at EVERY juncture....these people offend me....
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paineinthearse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-01-05 11:23 PM
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284. * is clothed by George de Paris, Vice* is clothed by...


...Kenny!
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