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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:14 AM
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Anonymous message spurs calls to Capitol Hill
http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2005-01-27-soci...

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Even before President Bush offers details of his plan to overhaul Social Security, Republicans in Congress are being flooded with calls opposing it.

Thousands of people called Capitol Hill and local offices this week after receiving an anonymous, recorded message that said their representatives support "privatizing Social Security." Recipients were given a toll-free number that connected them to the Capitol. The number belonged to the American Federation of Teachers, which said its line was hijacked.
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The early, anonymous lobbying illustrates the huge stakes in what will be one of the fiercest policy battles in years.

"The dirty tricks have begun," said Ross Baker, a political scientist at Rutgers University in New Jersey.

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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

He who gives gets what he gives. Fuck the Thuglies.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:20 AM
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1. Hmm...I wonder what organization (or individual) did this?
Soros?
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DainBramaged Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:22 AM
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2. Out maneuver a Thuglie, Gold star in my book.
I'm positive the ConPricks would have done the same (in reverse) if they could have first.
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BlueManDude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:23 AM
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3. "The dirty tricks have begun," said Ross Baker ???
Telling the truth about the GOP is now a "Dirty Trick?" Trying to destroy a program that you never belived in to begin with, all the while calling it reform - now that's a Dirty Tick.
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:35 AM
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4. What happened to that do not call list?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:13 AM
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7. Congress made changes in that right after Nov 2. Computer calls to folks
on the Do Not Call list are OK-fine! So, they can still legally pester you but you don't have a real person to vent your frustration at. Nice, eh?

If you recall, the telemarketing businesses warned that if the Do Not Call list passed, it would mean a lot of people losing jobs. Then they outsourced a bunch of call centers and people lost jobs anyway. NOW they can have ONE employee record a message and computers can play it for thousands of people trying to eat their suppers.
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Marthe48 Donating Member (473 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:42 PM
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15. Let the phone ring at least twice
the computer makes multiple calls at the same time, whoever picks up first gets that call.
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Orangepeel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:55 AM
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10. political calls, not-for-profits and marketing research were always exempt
from the do not call list.
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peekaloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 09:45 AM
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5. HaHa......My parents in Florida got one of those accusing
Ginny Brown-Waite of supporting Bu$h's plan. The next day GBW sent one out and she sounded like Nixon, "I want to make this perfectly clear.........".

Sucker punch landed!
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bluedog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:49 PM
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17. I got one (FL)
was told to call Bill youngs office........hes a GOP ass kisser....LOL.......Florida must have been flooded with calls
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:02 AM
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6. Oh, my! *giggle* Time to GET what has been GIVEN.
I'm sorry but,...I think this is hilarious.

Of course, I wouldn't suggest ILLEGAL tactics like this BUT,...I simply can't help but laugh.

The "Thuglies" have been doing this kind of crap for so long.
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Synnical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:55 PM
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20. I thought it was funny, too
:kick:
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fertilizeonarbusto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:24 AM
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8. Boo-hoo-hoo
Poor Wepugs, they're getting picked on.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 10:28 AM
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9. What a great idea! If Americans KNEW what the administration is doing
about a whole host of things, there would be a revolution in this country. Maybe this is the best way to counter the complicit media!

LOL!!! I LOVE IT!!! :bounce: Now they'll finally enforce the no-call lists! <giggle, snort>

:kick: :kick: :kick:
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:22 AM
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11. My guess re: dirty tricks-- fundie group
George Sorros or any other recognized PAC or 527 organization would have no reason to hide in the shadows with anonymous phone calls.

I think the most likely possibility is that it's a conservative and/or fundie group that wants to fight Bush on social security while not alienating him, because they need his support on other aspects of their reich-wing agenda (for example "protecting" marriage).
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 03:06 PM
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21. Political calls and charitable solicitations
....I was given to understand, do not fall under the no-call guidelines. I could be mistaken, though....anyone know for sure?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:22 AM
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12. and this is how to play the game.
hope i see much, much more of this.
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 11:29 AM
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13. I have only one thing to say. It's Clinton's fault. eom
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:35 PM
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14. The article is also on Yahoo...
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=710&nci...

I'm undecided as to whether I should rate it up or down. I definitely like the "Wall Street slot machine" frame and I also like "would cost taxpayers $2 trillion and decrease future benefits to retirees by 47%." Those are both great memes to get out.
On the other hand there are phrases like "despicable" and "dirty tricks" and implication of the American Federation of Teachers (who are innocent of course but it could raise questions in some people's minds).
I think that, on balance, popularizing this one is probably a plus. Anyone agree or disagree?
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alexisfree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:47 PM
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16. HERE....................
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 12:52 PM
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18. I don't believe this
I don't see any need for opponents of privitization to be anonymous.

More likely, this is just the republicans casting themselves as victims.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-28-05 02:11 PM
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19. I'm tellin' ya. I'd take money on this. It's conservatives and/or fundies
They want to attack Bush's social security plan, but they also don't want him to get mad at them because they still want his support on "morals" issues.

In other words, they'd rather stab him in the back than tell him to his face.
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