Poll: Dean Has Strong Lead Among Gay Voters

[Sean Reynolds]

Not sure this has been posted.....

Poll: Dean Has Strong Lead Among Gay Voters

http://www.365gay.com/NewsContent/090903deanPoll.htm

SNIP:

(Syracuse, New York) Former Vermont governor Howard Dean is the leading choice of gay voters according to a poll released today.

The online survey, taken by the S.I. Newhouse School at Syracuse University and OpusComm Group a marking company that specializes in the LGBT communty, asked: "If the 2004 presidential elections were held today, for whom would you vote?"

SNIP:

Dean was the clear favorite among all age groups surveyed. His popularity increases from 32% in the 18-24 year old group to more than 45% of respondents 55 and older. Overall, 35% of survey respondents have not yet made up their minds who to vote for in 2004.

SNIP:

The survey suggests that choices made by GLBT voters could have a marked impact on the 2004 elections. "Ninety-two percent of our respondents are registered to vote, as opposed to the national average of 69.5% according to the 2000 U.S. Census," explains Jeffrey Garber, president of OpusComm Group Inc. "This reinforces our findings that the GLBT community is a strong voting block that takes their politics seriously."

http://www.365gay.com/NewsContent/090903deanPoll.htm

[joeybee12]

1. I'm always a little leary of Gay Polls...

...mainly because I'm not sure if they're getting a large enough sample. Anyway, it doesn't surprise me he has a lead. Although all the Dems are very pro-gay (with the exception of Holy Joe), I started liking Dean a few years back when those nutcase "Take Back Vermont" brain-dead idiots rally gave him grief in his re-election over the civil marriages. He stood his ground. Nice to know one Democrat might actually do that.

[arcos]

4. this sample is large enough...

"Nearly 8,000 people responded to the survey taken in July and August."

That's more than most national polls.

I disagree with your assertion of Lieberman as not gay friendly, though. I hate Holy Joe, but gay rights is one of his few strong points. Out of the current candidates, I think the worst HRC record belongs to Graham.

[joeybee12]

5. Holy Joe may vote pro-gay, but when push comes to shove...

...I'm sure he'll waffle. I just remember his pathetic performance against Cheney in the debate in 2000. Instead of being forceful, he was just kind of wishy-washy about what he would do or support. Cheney basically said it should be left to the states--easy comeback is to just point out the problems when other states don't recognize partner visitation rights at hospitals. Holy Joe basically said nothing--like I said, when push comes to shove....

[arcos]

10. I agree with you, then

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[arcos]

2. that's more than a strong lead...

he is absolutely kicking ass.

"Dean, who was the architect of Vermont’s civil union law received 37% support. Among the other Democratic contenders for their party's nomination in 2004 Dick Gephardt (D), John Kerry (D), and Joe Lieberman (D) each received 4% of the vote. Carol Moseley-Braun, John Edwards, Bob Graham, Dennis Kucinich, and Al Sharpton each received 2.5% of the vote or less."

He has 3 times the support that Gephardt, Kerry and Lieberman have... COMBINED! He's leading by 33%

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[Prodemsouth]

3. Oh my Gay Stars .

n/t

[Cha]

6. As well Dean should! Dean is someone who stood up for

civil unions=civil rights! :kick:

[Frederic Bastiat]

7. It is sad

That so many Deanites can be so ignorant about their candidate of choice. Read up on Dean and how he came to sign the civil unions bill.

[Rose Siding]

8. Been there, done that

There were so many death threats, security put him in a kevlar vest.

Dean '04

[Sean Reynolds]

9. Care to explain what you mean?

If you're talking about the fact Dean was FORCED into signing it, I've heard that. What you forget is the fact Dean could have challenged the bill all the way to the Supreme Court, keeping it in check until well after his 5th term election. But he didn't, Dean signed the bill even though only 35% of Vermont supported it. Not only that but he campaigned on his signing of it - even AFTER getting death threats.

Dean didn't have to sign the Civil Unions into law, he could have kept it up in the courts for a long time. He didn't.

[Cha]

11. Get a clue dude, you've been brainwashed or something.....

facts are facts...ya can't distort that.

And put on a Happy Face! :-)

[Vikingking66]

12. what's more important

Doing something right or how you do it?
I don't think Dean's lack of ceremony diminished the value of the civil unions bill, nor do I think his position was any easier for being mandated by the courts.
Lincoln was not an abolitionist, but without Lincoln, there would have been no abolition of slavery.

[IndianaGreen]

14. I don't see the DLC-preferred candidates endorsing civil unions

or recognizing Canadian gay marriages.

Where are the statements of support for full civil rights for GLBT people from Gephardt, Kerry, Lieberman, Edwards, and Graham?

[Laughing Mirror]

15. so what is Dean's stance on full rights for gays

and not just the civil union mumbo jumbo, which no matter how nice it might sound still qualifies us as second-class citizens who cannot enjoy the same privileges as married couples in this country (marriage, immigration, adoption, inheritance, etc.)


does anybody know where Dean is on this?

[Sean Reynolds]

16. He believes if a state wants to give gay couples the rights of marriage...

They can. Again, he believes it's a state and religious issue. So if a state adopts Civil Unions - he'll accept it. If they adopt gay marriage, he'll accept that too.

[Laughing Mirror]

17. well that's not good enough

that is the problem i have with Carol Mosely Brown

leaving it up to the states is not the way to go

it has to be on a federal level or it's just wishful thinking

i demand my full rights as a US citizen and I demand that they be valuable and non-negotiable in every state of the union period

[Sean Reynolds]

18. But making it a federal issue would be asking too much.

Because you'd have to get both the senate and house to support the cause. It aint gonna happen ANY TIME soon.

I demand full rights of US citizens, but the president can't grant such rights without the support of congress.