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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:21 PM
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SS Refuses to Remove Crosses from the List of Prohibited Items at the Pres
Secret Service Refuses to Remove Crosses from the List of Prohibited Items at the Presidential Inaugural Parade Route

http://www.earnedmedia.org/cdc0111b.htm

The Christian Defense Coalition is still moving forward with litigation if crosses remain on the prohibited list.

WASHINGTON, Jan 11 /Christian Wire Service/ -- In a letter sent to the Christian Defense Coalition, the Secret Service said crosses could be worn around the neck or placed on a sign but they would not remove crosses from the list of prohibited items that could be used as a weapon.

In a letter sent back to the Secret Service on January 11th, the Christian Defense Coalition has said this is unacceptable and has the asked the Service to "...eliminate the word "crosses" from the illustrative list of prohibited items."
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Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney, Director of the Christian Defense Coalition, states, "The Secret Service continues to show a profound lack of sensitivity toward the Christian faith by leaving crosses on the list of prohibited items from the Inaugural Parade. This amounts to religious and viewpoint discrimination. It is very troubling for federal law enforcement to suggest the somehow a cross presents a greater danger to national security than other religious symbol. This situation can be settled simply by the Secret Service prohibiting all structures made of wood or metal and not having to discriminate against the most sacred symbol of the Christian faith."
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progressiveBadger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:24 PM
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1. I love that term. "Christian Defense Coalition"
Because Christians are such a persecuted group.
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Webster Green Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:24 PM
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2. Rev. Patrick J. Mahoney.........that name sounds familiar.....
Isn't he one of those notorious child abusers or something.
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CornField Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:45 PM
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14. I think, most recently
He protested Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter's bid to chair the Judiciary Committee. Mahoney has also come forth to pledge that he and his organization will oppose Rick Santorum (Penn) in his 2006 run (because of Santorum's support of Specter).
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:11 PM
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20. Teamed w/ Alan Keyes et al to support Roy Moore's stone idol.
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HeeBGBz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:24 PM
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3. Showdown
Is the honeymoon over?
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Megahurtz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:24 PM
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4. Are those burning crosses?
(sarcasm)
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:39 PM
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9. You got that right
It's about power, not Jesus.
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burn the bush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:27 PM
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5. shrubco is worried someone will try to crucify him during the coronation
afraid they might get their saviours mixed up.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:32 PM
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6. Crosses don't kill people
Romans with crosses kill people.
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GoddessOfGuinness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:44 PM
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11. Vampires can't stand the sight of crosses
Especially when they're busily sucking our blood.
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Boosterman Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:46 PM
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15. LMAO
exactly what I was thinking. I think I watched too much Buffy though.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:45 PM
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12. I doubt it would be because of confusion
People just want to crucify his ass.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:33 PM
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7. Satanic Pitchforks
Also forbidden?
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:42 PM
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10. How about flaming torches? n/t
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:37 PM
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8. Ha! They can't blame this one on Dems. This one is all Repug. (nt)
Edited on Tue Jan-11-05 07:37 PM by w4rma
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Just Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:45 PM
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13. I thought this had already been posted. n/t
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:48 PM
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16. Don't these ReligoPolitico CLOWNS
have anything better to do? :evilfrown: O8) :evilgrin:
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koopie57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 07:51 PM
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17. I think the Christian Defense Coalition
should get on their knees and thank the SS. How many people would just love to bring a good sized cross along and play a little tag with the bible thumping xtians.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:15 PM
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18. They'll need their crosses. Kid Rock is performing for Bush
BUSH SWEARING IN: TAKE 2
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_I...

Kid Rock too vulgar for inauguration?
Some wonder why values voters rewarded with F-word-spewing rapper
Posted: January 5, 2005
8:40 p.m. Eastern

By Ron Strom
2005 WorldNetDaily.com

Kid Rock, a popular vulgar rock-rapper whose lyrics wouldn't begin to pass muster with the Federal Communications Commission, is headlining the youth concert during the inauguration festivities for President Bush a politician who was re-elected largely due to the participation of traditional "values voters."

The Detroit-based rapper, who dedicated his first album to songs about oral sex and who was voted the Sluttiest Male Celebrity at the 1999 MTV Video Music Awards, will perform Jan. 18 at the Washington, D.C., Armory in a concert hosted by Bush daughters Jenna and Barbara. Teenage singer JoJo also will appear at the event.
<snip>
Kid Rock's first album, "Grit Sandwiches for Breakfast," fixates on oral sex, including one song, "Yo Da Lin In The Valley," that describes the lyricist's exploits with multiple women in detail. Another similar tune is "Wax the Booty."
<snip>
After reading some of Kid Rock's lyrics, Randy Thomasson, president of Campaign for Children and Families, was outraged the rapper would be a part of the president's festivities.
<snip>
A staff member of the Presidential Inauguration Committee told WND he himself was surprised about the Kid Rock appearance and said someone would provide the newssite with an official statement. No one from the committee returned the call by press time. The committee is reachable via e-mail at info@inaugural05.com .

More:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_I...

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Straight Shooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 08:26 PM
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19. Someone needs to carry a cross made with cardboard tubes
And fill the tubes with cement and then whack the daylights out of the first fundie that yells "Savior George!"
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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:29 PM
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21. This is a good move for the protestors that day. . .
Who wants to get brained by a t-shaped, 8-foot wooden club?
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tanyev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:31 PM
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22. I just find this so disturbing.
Has there been any other presidential inauguration where it even occurred to anyone to bring a large cross to hold up as the president processed by? Why on earth would you bring a cross to a secular, political event? You wouldn't.

That means these people are viewing this inauguration as a religious event. Part of me wishes they could bring their crosses. Maybe the sight of that would finally horrify those moderate Republicans still on speaking terms with rationality.

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OrwellwasRight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:10 PM
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27. If they bring their 8 foot crosses, can we whip & taunt them?
I'll even bring them sandals & crowns of thorns to wear...

So long as it ends with Bush in as much pain as he has put the country through, it is OK by me.
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leesa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:37 PM
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23. Excellent! Sieg Heil everyone!
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jayctravis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:53 PM
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24. Who is seriously going to bring a cross?
Are they planning a recreation of The Passion?
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sweetheart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 09:58 PM
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25. There it is... bring a cross gun
surely a cross can be made to carry a single shot bullet and look
still like a religious cross... perhaps one of jesus's hands can be
the trigger to defeat imperial hubris! :-)

surely jesus was not big on money changers in the temple or mass
murderers killing his folk... would he not have used his cross
to defeat his opponents? Is this not what the nutty christians
themselves say?
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-11-05 10:10 PM
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26. Sign of their shaky faith? SS bans umbrellas too, it does not mean there
is no rain. Why do these folks have to play the poor victims when they try to shove their fanaticism down everyone else's' throats?

Big news, Mahoney, the United States of America is a SECULAR organization of people, some of whom simply do not subscribe to your beliefs.

And here's another flash Mahoney, the SS is charged with protecting the President, or in this case, the pResident. That means they will not tolerate items which could be used as, or to conceal, a weapon. If bush* is God's chosen, as so many want to believe, then the SS is doing God's work by making people keep their big ass crosses at home for the day. Cuts back on places weapons could be smuggled into a sensitive area.

Mahoney needs to get a clue and stop acting like the SS is nailing Christians to crosses! They are just doing their job and protecting the 'anointed one'. :eyes:
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-12-05 08:52 AM
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28. Lord George Boosh.........savior..................this makes me want to...
:puke:
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