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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:30 AM
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John Kerry Meets With Syrian President
DAMASCUS, Syria -- Former Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry met Saturday with Syria's president and said he was hopeful that strained U.S.-Syrian relations could be improved, provided Washington seized "a moment of opportunity" currently available in the Middle East.
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Sen. Kerry, D-Mass., met for two hours with President Bashar Assad and then with Foreign Minister Farouk al-Sharaa, with both meetings centering on Iraq and how to prevent militants from moving from Syria into neighboring Iraq.

"I think we found a great deal of areas of mutual interest, some common concerns and some possibilities for initiatives that could be taken in the future to strengthening the relationship between the U.S. and Syria," Kerry told reporters after meeting with al-Sharaa.
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...President Bush has warned Syria and Iran against "meddling" in the internal affairs of Iraq. Washington and Baghdad both have said that key support for the insurgency in Iraq was coming from a half brother of Saddam Hussein and Baath Party leaders based in Syria.
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After Kerry left the Foreign Ministry on Saturday, 13-year-old Mustafa al-Nabulsi approached him with a drawing of the senator as a soldier in his Vietnam days.

"You have made me much more important than I was, though. You made me a general," Kerry said.

"I wish you were the president," al-Nabulsi said.

"Thank you very much. So do I," Kerry said.

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-mid...
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sportndandy Donating Member (710 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:33 AM
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1. so do I...
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smbolisnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:34 AM
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2. And so do I. nt
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:34 AM
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3. Sweet interaction with the 13 year old. I wish he was President too.
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 11:37 AM by Pirate Smile
:(

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/050108/4...

Here is a link to a picture of the 13 year-old showing him the picture. I don't know how to post it here.
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JI7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:42 AM
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10. here you go



The 13-year-old Syrian Mustafa al-Nabulsi approaches the U.S. former presidential candidate Senator John Kerry, a democrat from Massachusetts, to give him a drawing in which al-Nabulsi portrayed Kerry in his military uniform when he was a soldier in Vietnam on Saturday, Jan. 8, 2004 in Damascus following his talks with Syrian Foreign Minister Farouk al-Sharaa on Iraq, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict and the U.S.-Syria strained bilateral relations. Kerry, who arrived in Damascus on Friday, met earlier in the day with Syrian President Bashar Assad. (AP Photo/ Bassem Tellawi).
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:57 AM
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22. Thanks.
:)
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:48 AM
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14. dupe
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 11:49 AM by ginnyinWI
delete
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Goldeneye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:34 AM
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4. So do I.
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:35 AM
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5. Yes, Yes, Yes!!
a 13 year old kid from Syria knows we would have been better off with Kerry as pres...... WHY can adults here delude themselves so badly as to vote the * back in? It shouldn't have even been close!
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:36 AM
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6. So Kerry is off doing "Presidential" stuff.
Ha! Wouldn't that be funny if he just carried on as if he were president? I think he should. Just to mentally mess with the non-person who believes himself to be president now.
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SueZhope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:44 AM
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12. good point
the guy they call president is about as presidential as
as a toddler . (no offense to the children)
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:40 PM
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42. Yes we need our own "Shadow Government"
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ashmanonar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:53 PM
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52. lol
president in all but name, huh?

he could probably pull it off...president de facto!
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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:38 AM
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7. "So Do I" Wah Wah Fucking Wah
I think Kerry should have gone for the gold!Cryed like a baby, made a big stink! IT's not like he has to worry about money.

I can see the talking points in 2008 now: "When Kerry should have been fighting for the election, he missed yet another session of Congress" "He wanted to be president, but then he didn't"
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:24 PM
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33. Okay, let me see if I can explain to you in simple terms why
it was best that he was not there on the 6th.

IT WAS ABOUT THE ELECTION PROCESS. If he had been there the repukes would have twisted it all and made it about him and his "refusal to accept the will of the people" and the flaws of our election process would have been ignored.

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meisje Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:21 PM
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47. So you're saying it would have turned out differently?
We were ignored by the media and it will now be swept under the rug.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:36 PM
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48. Despite the media ignoring us, it was not swept under the rug
pre-Jan 6 and it will not be swept under the rug now. We won't allow it, but feel free to look at the negative things, it seems to bring you such pleasure.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:41 AM
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8. Question: Will he take heat for this- meeting with a foreign leader?
Don't govts usually meet with officials of like rank?
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:42 AM
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9. Jesse Jackson
has met with a number of foreign leaders...
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:49 AM
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15. But he's not an elected official
I'm glad Kerry did it- his tone here is more respectful and reasonable than the US admin, but even Carter gets US approval before working with other countries.

I'm just wondering if this was a "sanctioned" visit.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:51 AM
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17. Hopefully not. Senators need to be informed to make decisions and
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 11:54 AM by Pirate Smile
judgments. We sure know you can't trust the information the Bush Administration gives to Congress or the people.

They "make" reality. They also love to "make" propaganda.

I'm not saying Kerry would trust what Syria says but you certainly find out a lot more being there.

I know his trip was different then the ones most of the Senators and House members have gone on to Iraq because he wanted to go places other then where BushCo wanted him to - not just a photo-op or to promote Bush's agenda. That is why he is alone.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:52 AM
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18. it's fairly common for senators to visit other countries
and Kerry is on the Foreign Relations committee I think.
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Kitsune Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:34 PM
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36. Cue exploding Freeper heads in 5...4...3...2... *n t*
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:36 PM
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37. Oh I bet he pissed off Geogie Boy
real good with this move.

Can't wait to hear Rush ranting about this one for the next month and a half.

LOL. I wish he was president too.
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ginnyinWI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:42 AM
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11. He's negotiating with heads of state--
he's talking with them rather than issuing warnings from Washington. He's stepping up to be the diplomat/head of state that smirkyboy isn't, and can't be. Bravo, John, bravo.

John Kerry, the Un-bush. Doesn't let a little thing like a thwarted election stop him from working for America.
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musette_sf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:12 PM
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29. and this is why I still support him
I just couldn't get behind the bashing posts. I know people are angry about many things... but honestly, I think JFK is such a class act. He knows what they (BFEE) are, and he does a decent job of playing them. :loveya: John Kerry is my President!
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truth2power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:18 PM
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46. "Kerry, the un-Bush" LOL! I like that. Let's use it. n/t
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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 03:18 PM
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53. Kerry is a private citizen, he cannot "negotiate" with heads of state
Kerry's rubbing of elbows with Syria will not sit well with Israel and her friends in America. It doesn't sit well with me and I am not even a Likunik!

Kerry could have gone to Iraq during the campaign, and he could have promised to review the entire war if he was elected. That would have been an Ike moment for Kerry. Instead, he chooses to go to Iraq when it least mattered, and stay away from Washington when it most mattered. Loser!
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:46 AM
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13. bet that chapped Shrub's ass
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:50 AM
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16. That's exactly what I'm thinking
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:57 AM
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21. They'll take a swipe or two at Kerry for this
I wouldn't doubt it if someone claims he was talking to the enemy.
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Child_Of_Isis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:10 PM
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28. They are going to dog Kerry no matter what he does.
So, he may as well do as he pleases.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:14 PM
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31. That'll be good- more coverage
Comparison's with Bush for this would be to a dem advantage
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:17 PM
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32. Of course
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:54 AM
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19. Of course it chapped shrub's ass! The media will crucify Kerry for this!
And I'm STILL glad Kerry is doing it! Everyone in the WORLD wishes Kerry was president, except Osama, of course.

I SURE WISH HE WAS PRESIDENT! After all, we really did elect him to be, and deep inside, I think he knows it. The election was stolen, plain and simple.

:kick: :kick: :kick:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:58 AM
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23. Anything that chaps Shrub's ass is a good thing
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 11:54 AM
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20. Hmmm....I don't understand why Kerry is going from country to country
What's the purpose?

He's not contesting the vote,...so is he trying to improve
Bush's Tyrrant-anti-democracy image?

It won't work.
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:43 PM
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40. No - he's checking out the reality of the situation beforehand -
Syria's on the list. The next "conflict" will be a toss up between Syria and Iran.
If I were Kerry,and have come to the realization that this administration and it's OSP lies worse than a big ol' 300 lb lap dog (no offense to lap dogs), it's up to Congress to assess and verify what the situation actually is. What our troop strength actually is, how they're being treated. How the funding going to the "provisional government" and contractors is actually being used. What is actually going on in Iraq vis a vis the "insurgency", foreign fighting forces, civilian quality of life and casualties, etc...
What Syria is actually doing. Not only what the Syrian government is saying, but what the attitudes of the average Syrian civilian is - how "anti-West" they actually are - or if they are "anti-Crusader" instead. How much they are willing to blame a certain Middle-East agenda on how US policies are evolving.
If they are preparing to be invaded, or if they're just going on with life as usual.

In otherwords, what we can realistically expect when we invade Syria sometime next year, because Shrubbie needs to re-prove his manhood knocking down nations that can't fight back and is looking for a country where it's both vaguely plausible that there's a "reason" to go after them and it's very profitable.

Haele
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goforit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 03:23 PM
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54. Well, isn't this interesting. So, he is in search for the truth on the
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 03:24 PM by goforit
other side of the fence. Well, I guess nothing bad can
come of this. I certainly feel we would be foolish to jump into
another war without solidifying Iraq.
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nothingshocksmeanymore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:01 PM
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24. Someone needs to practice diplomacy since this admin won't and can't
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:07 PM
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26. well, this guarantees we'll be going to waar with syria soon
the shrub will blow a gasket.
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HollyC Donating Member (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:06 PM
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25. sad, but
They should have SENT a GENERAL in the first place.

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impeachthescoundrel Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:08 PM
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27. Damn
you made me cry again.
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:12 PM
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30. Here's the Yahoo link, if you want to rate it
I'd hate to think this won't be covered well.

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050108/ap...
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:25 PM
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34. prospects, should be doing this, not former this-er-that. n/t
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:34 PM
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35. I disagree but it's moot; Kerry thinks he is a prospect
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YvonneCa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:38 PM
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38. So do I, and here's how I'll show it!!
This is from an earlier thread to a former Kerry supporter:


YvonneCa (4 posts)
Fri Jan-07-05 06:16 PM
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29. "They hope you will just go away, they are COUNTING on it."



...John Kerry, in email to his supporters.

I understand the frustration behind your decision to take down your yard sign and cover your bumper sticker. After voting for Wesley Clark in the primaries, I worked to support John Kerry in this election as I have never supported a candidate before, because after 2000, I knew the only way I could survive a similar result in 2004 was if I personally had done everything I could to prevent it. So I did. I think John Kerry did, too.
After November 2nd, while trying to understand what happened in this Presidential election, I started doing on-line research. Like many of you, I discovered the facts. I completely believe that Kerry won this election, and his actions from the beginning also show he knows it. I decided that my yard sign would stay until January 6th, when I would understand more about what had happened and could make a better decision about how to proceed. I decided my bumper sticker would stay there forever, because I want the world to know I didn't vote for this administration's planned policies (like changes to Social Security, pre-emptive war, etc.) John Kerry, in my opinion, would be an excellent president.
I watched yesterday's Electoral Vote challenge with great interest. On the positive side, I am thrilled that history was made, and that activists helped to promote that. While I was disappointed that Congressional Democrats did not vote for the challenge, I was, and am, so proud that they spoke in support of Election Reform, which should have happened after the 2000 Election. I am especially proud of Senator Barbara Boxer (from my home state of California) for being the senator to sign the challenge. Just the fact that there WAS a signed challenge this time, is a step toward the goal of fixing elections before 2008. On the negative side, we were mocked by Congressional Republicans...by both their words and actions. They don't want election reform, and I could see in their faces that they viewed this challenge as an annoyance and a joke. So the down side, for me, is I finally understand how hard this is going to be. I think John Kerry knew this from the beginning.
In John Kerry's email (way back in November) to his 3,000,000,000 on line supporters he included a videotape with the words, "They hope you will just go away...they are counting on it." When I first listened to his words, they seemed very "out-of-context" to me. I've listened to them several times since, and they fit the context of January, 2005 perfectly. While it was very disappointing to me that he seemed to be looking beyond Election 2004 and telling us (his base)what he wants us to do, after yesterday, I now see that he is right. We Democrats, liberal or moderate, are TOTALLY out of power. We have little say in Congress or in the courts, and no say in the executive branch. The only way we will be able to accomplish anything within this government, especially considering we have a broken election system, is if we do not just go away like the Republicans are counting on us to do. John Kerry said we must "stand firm" and he is right. In his most recent email to supporters (the one where he asked us to call Speaker Hastert and Senate Majority Leader Frist and then LET HIM KNOW WHEN WE HAD DONE SO ) Kerry has begun the fight. If we, his on line supporters, go away, Congressional Democrats will have even less success in this fight. I believe we must stay engaged and support John Kerry and Democrats (who spoke so eloquently yesterday) in their efforts.
I don't know who I'll vote for in 2008. I still think Wesley Clark is great. I like John Edwards' enthusiasm. If Al Gore ran again, I've always thought he would make a great president. Maybe John Kerry, with our support will yet surprise us all (I REALLY hope so!). But I do know I'll never vote for a Republican, and I do know I want my vote counted this time. I think Kerry IS still fighting for us and there IS something to hang on to. So no matter who I decide on for 2008, Kerry has my support until this election reform fight is won!

AND, in regards to Kerry's Middle East trip, He IS doing what the ELECTED President should be doing!!! :)



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yorkiemommie1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 12:38 PM
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39. smart kid n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:13 PM
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41. The 13-year old has it right.
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stepnw1f Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 01:52 PM
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43. Now He Works Above the Radar
Just enough for the people see what and how he works. I believe the media will watch him with intrigue, because unlike other losing candidates, John is back to work.

Good luck J.

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chrisbur Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:03 PM
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44. "So shines
a good deed in a weary world.
- Willy Wonka from Willy Wonka (taken from William Shakespeare
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:07 PM
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45. Oh lord, here it comes: "Democrats in league with the Syrians" n/t
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DoYouEverWonder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:37 PM
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50. You're right
Edited on Sat Jan-08-05 02:37 PM by DoYouEverWonder
they've probably already put him on a terrorist watch list.

Hey John, let's see how pat downs they give you on the way home? Welcome back to Amerika.

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hollowdweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:16 PM
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59. Yea Bush never consults any foreign leaders. Hell he doesn't even listen
to anybody in the US. He just shoots from the hip.
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Rican1 Donating Member (144 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:33 PM
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63. or Kerry: " A traitor again"
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Vektor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:36 PM
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49. OMG Sweet. *Dies of cute*
"After Kerry left the Foreign Ministry on Saturday, 13-year-old Mustafa al-Nabulsi approached him with a drawing of the senator as a soldier in his Vietnam days.

"You have made me much more important than I was, though. You made me a general," Kerry said.

"I wish you were the president," al-Nabulsi said.

"Thank you very much. So do I," Kerry said."

Why the hell am I one of those sensitive weepy types that has to blubber over everything?

I LOVE THIS MAN.
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jaime_176 Donating Member (61 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 02:40 PM
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51. I Think this is Wonderful!!
The right-wing may smear and obfuscate, the press may denigrate, but a majority inside our country and outside of it will see a strong and reasonable leader...who should be president. This makes such great contrast with ** ...how can anyone not compare and realize the mistake that was made? This is also showing the other countries that there are good, decent, and thoughtful people in the US; persons who do not see all differences as irreconcilable and as reason for war. I love it!! Yeah Kerry!! Yeah al-Nabulsi!! I think it will also make Bushco look worse when they do try to invade these other countries, because Kerry is looking for ways to strengthen relationships rather than destroy them.
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 03:47 PM
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55. This makes me so proud of Kerry. It also makes me despise
Rove, Cheney, and Stump more for denying the USA of a great president.
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AlbizuX Donating Member (322 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 04:24 PM
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56. look at that...
Kerry doing what President Bush SHOULD be doing....trying to improve relations with all the Presidents of the Middle East....

So much more presidential than Chimpy.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 05:30 PM
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57. That's my President!
:loveya:



And what a sweet, smart kid. Looks like he can really draw too!
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mary195149 Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 05:56 PM
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58. Looks like John Kerry
is going to do what he can to save this country, in spite of Bush. I could see him being very proactive. He knows if things don't start getting done now, in 4 years we may not even have a country. I am all for standing behind John Kerry as he is our president. There's probably alot of things he can do to smooth things over in this country and I say let's rally around Kerry, the president who really won. Let him be as proactive as he sees fit to help get this country back to where it was. He's a fighter, let him duke it out with bushie. Let's keep sending the emails to Kerry letting him know we are proud of his efforts. I am sending him an email now, acknowledging his bravery of going to Iraq and total dedication.
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antigone382 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:37 PM
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64. Umm, he's a thirteen-year-old, not a head of state.
And if he wants John Kerry to be the president, he DOES want what is best for America.
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JoFerret Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:17 PM
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66. Can we trust Bush?
(You could always investigate both al-Nabulsi and GW Bush and decide without having to ask faux questions)
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darkism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:24 PM
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61. Touching
"I wish you were the president," al-Nabulsi said.

"Thank you very much. So do I," Kerry said.

:cry: So do I. :(
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madison2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 06:30 PM
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62. I wish he was the president too
:loveya: :cry: :loveya: :cry: :loveya: :cry: :loveya: :cry: :loveya: :cry: :loveya: :cry:
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Last Lemming Donating Member (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-08-05 07:09 PM
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65. We've had the coup
Thus begins the counter-coup
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