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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Sep-13-03 11:39 PM
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Big Bush's Visit Fuels Talk of Big Deals
He may be retired from public life but George Bush seems to cause a stir every time he comes to Russia.

You name it and market players were buzzing Thursday about the real reasons behind the former American leader's visit -- an $18 billion play by U.S. oil giant ChevronTexaco for a blocking stake in the new Yukos-Sibneft combo? The launch of a $500 million private tie-up between Alfa Group and Pentagon-connected Carlyle Group? Divvying up the hydrocarbon resources of postwar Iraq?

Late Wednesday, before Bush Sr. had even left, traders in New York had already heard word that he was heading to Russia to help clear the way for the sale of a strategic stake in YukosSibneft to ChevronTexaco, which named one of its tankers after Condoleezza Rice, a former board member who is now his son's national security adviser.

But it didn't stop there. The buzz continued Thursday as news spread that Bush was also here to help finalize the creation of a $500 million private equity fund between Russian oil-to-telecoms giant Alfa and one of his present employers, the Carlyle Group, a defense industry insider that counts former U.S. Secretary of State James Baker and former British Prime Minister John Major among its advisers.

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http://www.moscowtimes.ru/stories/2003/09/12/002.html
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 12:26 AM
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1. Good catch! Pimp Daddy is at it again. Who needs elections or
Edited on Sun Sep-14-03 12:30 AM by Dover
representative government? It's nepotism at it's best. Or perhaps this is simply the new "volunteerism" the GOP has been promoting. Gosh those Bushes volunteer for everything!
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kskiska Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 12:49 AM
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2. Looks like Poppy's not sitting home in his La-zy-Boy
throwing things at the TV, like the media portrays him.
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E_Zapata Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 02:56 AM
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5. His La-zy Boy is sitting in the oval office:
and it doesn't match the decor.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 09:07 AM
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6. Good one...haha
* is a lazy ass...otherwise knows as a butthead!
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realFedUp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:28 PM
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9. that was funny
thanks.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 07:14 PM
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14. LOL
That was a good one! :bounce:
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Unknown Known Donating Member (829 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 01:02 AM
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3. Kissinger is there as well
There's more to this story - something to do with this guy, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, one of Russia's richest men and big-wig with Yukos Oil. He is paying Kissinger to negotiate with Putin.

Apparently, he's had to answer question from the General Prosecutor's Office regarding his business practices. And since he hangs with this crowd, you can safely assume his "business practices" are crooked.

If I'm reading this article correctly, it looks like there's some blackmail going on by Kremlin - leaking communications between Kissinger & Khodorkovsky.

I would bet my last dime they had something to do with Iraqi oil.

But why would Putin want to sell off a large share of Russia's largest oil company to Carlyle after BushCo went into Iraq and stole all the oil that the Russians leased from Saddam?

This is a very interesting story!

http://www.atimes.com/atimes/Central_Asia/EI13Ag02.html
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belab13 Donating Member (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 06:50 PM
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12. When he puts his mind to it Kissinger can make Cheney and Rumsfeld
look like choir boys. pure unadulterated evil.
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CShine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 01:08 AM
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4. Whadda surprise. Bush kisses up to big oil.
I could've predicted this without even seeing the story.
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 02:45 PM
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8. Hi CShine!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 09:14 AM
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7. The Saudis made deals with Moscow last month
Maybe Carlyle jobs are being negotiated in an effort to screw the Saudis.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 03:41 PM
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10. and the Saudis were just in Maine last month!
wtf is going on? Who exactly is making our foreign policy anyway?
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 06:41 PM
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11. Cheney, Halliburton and Russian Mob
Edited on Sun Sep-14-03 06:48 PM by 9215
Cheney Led Halliburton
To Feast at Federal Trough
State Department Questioned Deal
With Firm Linked to Russian Mob
By Knut Royce and Nathaniel Heller <http://www.publicintegrity.org/staff.html >
<http://www.public-i.org/story_01_080200.htm >
Washington, August 2) Under the guidance of Richard Cheney, a get-the-government-out-of-my-face conservative, Halliburton Company over the past five years has emerged as a corporate welfare hog, benefiting from at least $3.8 billion in federal contracts and taxpayer-insured loans.


One of these loans was approved in April by the U.S. Export-Import Bank. It guaranteed $489 million in credits to a Russian oil company whose roots are imbedded in a legacy of KGB and Communist Party corruption, as well as drug trafficking and organized crime funds, according to Russian and U.S. sources and documents.
Those claims are hotly disputed by the Russian oil firms holding company.
Halliburton, which lobbied for the Ex-Im loan after the State Department initially asserted that the deal would run counter to the "national interest, will receive $292 million of those funds to refurbish a massive Siberian oil field owned by the Russian company, the Tyumen Oil Co., which is controlled by a conglomerate called the Alfa Group.


Note: Remember Chalva Tchigirinsky from the Vreeland note? He has links to Tyumen Oil and Siber/Sybur oil. This is now connected to Alpha Group and Carlyle. Tyumen was cutting deals with Saudis also.
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 07:04 PM
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13. Daddy PLEASE HELP ME!
LOL! This is daddy running to try to save his loser son's ASS in Iraq. I'm telling you, daddy went to Russia for support for Iraq and he probably got his wallet stolen...
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-14-03 07:56 PM
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15. War Is a Racket.
Oligarchy is where you find it.
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9215 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 11:34 AM
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16. kick
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Sep-15-03 11:49 AM
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17. ChevronTexaco buying a slice of YukosSibneft?
Here comes Enron part 2. Mikhail Khodorkovsky and YukosSibneft will be the new Ken Lay and Enron. This time it's very public and 100% stage managed by Poppy (with a little help behind the scenes from that wanker Bandar).
After that, the next to go down the toilet pan will be Chelsea Football Club, now owned by Sinbneft's asshole major shareholder Roman Abramovich, has been coralled into a $100 million spending spree......

Makes me think of that old biblical analogy about the good shepherd leading his sheep ....only this time, up the garden path and straight into the cesspit.....
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