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Rose Siding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:26 PM
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U.S. May Add Advisers to Aid Iraq's Military -NYT
Edited on Mon Jan-03-05 10:32 PM by Rose Siding
WASHINGTON, Jan. 3 - Gen. George W. Casey Jr., the top commander in Iraq, is reviewing a proposal to add hundreds of American military advisers to work directly with Iraqi units, whose disappointing performance could jeopardize the long-term American exit strategy from Iraq, senior military officials said Monday.

Americans are training Iraqi police officers and national guard troops to replace them in securing the country, but the results over all have been troubling, with growing desertion rates, gaps in leadership, and poor battlefield performance, American military officers and troops say.

The advisers would bolster the Iraqi will to fight, help train officers who would lead the troops, curb desertion, and provide Iraqi forces with the confidence that American units would back them up - in some cases fighting alongside them if needed, military and Pentagon officials said.

Several hundred American troops are already embedded with Iraqi units, following a long tradition in American military actions. But the proposal would greatly expand this presence.

The details of the proposal are still being discussed among American and Iraqi officials, and more troops would probably not be embedded until after the Jan. 30 elections, in which Iraqi forces will play a crucial part....

http://nytimes.com/2005/01/04/international/middleeast/04military.html?hp&ex=1104814800&en=1d44abe6f1fb9a3e&ei=5094&partner=homepage

"military advisers" + what gets 15,700 hits?
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ogradda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:29 PM
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1. asking us for military advice.
what with our wonderful record in iraq so far:eyes:
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da_chimperor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:30 PM
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2. Ah, just like the good ole' days back in 'nam
Wait . . . those days weren't so good. Nevermind, carry on.
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two gun sid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 10:32 PM
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3. We just dig the hole deeper...
and deeper.
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qwertyMike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-03-05 11:24 PM
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4. Thousands of 'Advisors'....
were killed in Nam
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 12:16 AM
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5. Oh, they just got it...
backwards. We usually send advisors first, THEN start the war. So see, everything is really OK in Iraq, they just got the order a lil' wrong, now go back to bed America.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:19 AM
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6. I thought advisers came first, then the quagmire comes later
Edited on Tue Jan-04-05 01:23 AM by daleo
This seems backwards.

On edit - If Bush needs a memory aid for his next invasion, he should just go in the same order that the words appear in the dictionary - advisers, quagmire, Vietnamization.
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americanstranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:22 AM
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7. Yup, VN in reverse.
At least in 'Nam, we sent the advisors before we trashed the country.

-as
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CHIMO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:37 AM
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8. Probably Just His
Way of getting out and he doesn't realize that it is the 60's in reverse.

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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 09:39 AM
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13. Lessons learned form Vietnam
Oh sorry no they weren't
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keopeli Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 04:54 AM
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9. Gooooood Morning, Iraq!
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 09:34 AM
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10. You can't make this shit up.
I bet the "advisers" main duty is to shoot anybody that tries to desert.
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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 09:38 AM
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12. Ever heard the term "flanker" as in football?
That is where it comes from. "Flanker"s stood on the sides of the battles and shot anyone who tried to run away.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 09:37 AM
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11. From top to bottom ....
his whole ordeal smells of extreme incompetence ....

HOW can these idiots be in power ? ...
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 09:40 AM
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14. Blackwater
keeps raking in the moola.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-04-05 01:53 PM
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15. they should send Matt Foley
all those slacking Iraqis need is a little motivation.

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