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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:18 AM
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Fallujah refugees vow revenge for attack
http://www.suntimes.com/output/iraq/cst-nws-falluj05.html

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- According to Iraq's government, people like Ismail Ibrahim should be glad Fallujah is all but rid of the insurgents accused of turning the city into a terrorist base and using its civilians as human shields.

But in a Baghdad school where Ibrahim and about 200 others displaced from Fallujah have been living since the latest fighting drove them out, the talk is of vendetta -- not against the insurgents but against the Americans and the Iraqi government.

''I feel hatred. I hurt. This is my city, and it has been destroyed,'' Ibrahim said, sitting on a thin mattress on the floor of a room he shares with his wife, seven children and another family.

''The people of Fallujah are people of revenge. If they don't get their revenge now, they will next year or even after 50 years. But they will get it.''

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:25 AM
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1. Violence begats violence...whodathunkit?
:eyes:

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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:32 AM
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2. Yes it does, Let's just hope
the blowback is toward the BFEE and not us, US.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:35 AM
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5. Bad news. The BFEE lives in gated communities with 24 hour guards
Who does that leave the Iraqis to take it out on? Not really looking for an answer. Just wondering out loud.

Don

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lynx rufus Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:12 AM
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10. I guess time will tell
I'm hopeful :)
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:48 AM
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12. The BFEE can use us as human shields.... n/t
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:35 AM
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6. But they'll get us because we are easier to get to
I would much rather someone angry with the American govt. would go after said govt. directly....alas, the people are easier to get to.
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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:32 AM
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3. the talk is of vendetta -- not against the insurgents but against the-US


they live by the creed---an eye for an eye--But then so do we. I can not begin to count the times I have heard--they killed 3,000 in the towers--we need to get the terrorists!! The problem is--we, the US has killed over 3,000 (thousands of civilians and 'insurgents)---but that does not seems to phase them!!!!!!
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:38 AM
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7. Just to compound that problem
The people we are killing in Iraq were not responsible for 9/11. However, many here in the US will never believe that.

We have murdered over 100,000 Innocent people, mostly women and children.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 10:07 AM
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8. We will soon need a score card.
Don't you feel like hitting your head on a wall. You could see this coming and you just have to ask why our gov. did this? I know Bush wanted to get into office and his voters seem to see an eye for and eye just like the crazy terrorists do but I do not like to see half the people who do not think like this dragged into the mess, let alone the rest of the world. I mean look what history will say about these killers we seem to have put in power? Look what Johnson is known for around the world and Nixon. War not what they did here.We must get these people who think like WW2 out of office. Times are not the same.
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LynnTheDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 10:17 AM
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9. Not to mention that NONE of the 911 terrorists were Iraqi.
Edited on Sun Dec-05-04 10:21 AM by LynnTheDem
The US should have saved some money by just invading Canada (ever so much closer and cheaper to get to) & killing the US-to-untermenschen ratio, which apparently is more than 3,000 to 1.

After all, Canadians had as much to do with 911 as any Iraqi.

Ie; NOT A DAMN THING.
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MatrixEscape Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 08:34 AM
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4. It is very easy to empathize with that point of view
While empathy, (unlike sympathy) is usually based on having had a similar experience, you can experience it through imagination.

I can imagine how I would feel if my city or town had be attacked and trashed like that, and I had to flee. I would not be easily moved by reasons given. All that would effect me is the discomfort and seeing the destruction of places, buildings, shops, etc., that were my world.

Then add dead friends, family, children ... it is clear that bitterness and anger are going to be strong.

Of course, the media here has been making it sound like things are going peachy over there. Nobody here would stand for that kind of carnage on our soil.
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DemoTex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:18 AM
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11. Sow the Wind; Reap the Whirlwind.
Hosea 8:1-14
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Rush1184 Donating Member (478 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 11:56 AM
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13. Hey Bush! Way to win those hearts and minds! Great Job!!!
/scarcasm
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Massachusetts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-04 12:53 PM
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14. And the Bu$hco book of the week is
"How To Win Friends And Influence People" - Dale Carnegie:bounce:
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