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FauxNewsBlues Donating Member (420 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:09 PM
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Bush will seek $87 billion for Iraq
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush will announce on Sunday night that he plans to ask Congress for $87 billion to fund the U.S. military deployment in Iraq and pay for reconstruction, a Republican source said.


The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the money would fund U.S. military operations in Iraq and reconstruction over the coming budget year.


Article from Washington Post


I want to cry

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:11 PM
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1. and they call Democrats big spenders???????
:puke:
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:12 PM
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2. looting out treasury.............theives..
gin
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Chomskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:13 PM
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3. I don't know about you . . .
. . . but the minute I heard this just now I started pacing and walking around cursing. HOLY LIVING ______! Just repeating that number.

I can't ________ing believe it.
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markses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:14 PM
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4. Shit, two posts ago it was $80 billion
By the time the speech starts, it's gonna be $120 billion.

Remind me again why the single Mom next door can't get decent childcare and healthcare for the kid?
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:14 PM
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5. Where's that money going to come from?
We're already $598 billion in the hole for this year, thanks to Chimpy's giveaway of the federal treasury to his overrich pals and campaign contributors. Another $87 billion on top of that?

Does this man have any concept of money whatsoever?
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:19 PM
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9. Why would he have any concept of money whatsoever?
As he keeps saying "its your money".

Don

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tedoll78 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:23 PM
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11. Yeah,
and it's our debt too.

The only question: do we want to pay it back now, or later with added interest?
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RoBear Donating Member (781 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:21 PM
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10. Easy....
Just give his rich cronies a big tax cut. That oughta do it. What a total ignoramus.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:15 PM
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6. Where is the accounting for ANY $$$$ they have spent...?
This is wreckless. I don't care if he crawls on his kness and begs. He lied...people have lost thier lives over his lies and now he wants to put us more in debt.
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Dudley_DUright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:15 PM
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7. George A. Akerlof,
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 08:02 PM by Dudley_DUright
Nobel prize winning economist at UC Berkeley, was right. They are "looting the treasury". Worst president ever.

on edit: right quote, wrong name.
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cthrumatrix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:18 PM
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8. CNN said $87B is more than we spend on education....
I can't believe this crap... what the hell will money do for us over there..? Are we going to bribe these people?
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pippin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:23 PM
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12. let's see
He asks for $87 billion but is also going to cut taxes? so where is the money coming from??? especially if more Americans are out of wotk the tax base is bound to be smaller?? I am no economist but the Republican math doesn't compute.
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Prodemsouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:28 PM
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13. Fuzzy Math
F**King idiots.. Damn.. to hell with the stupid MFs falling for this shit.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:14 PM
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26. Where? The magic money fairy?
You know, we could have contained Saddam Hussein until he would have reached the age of 150 on what this bozo is spending now.
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trogdor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:45 PM
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33. It's greater than almost every other department, too.
Actually, the education budget is around $50 billion. In fact, what Bush wants to spend just on Iraq is equal or greater than every other department of the federal government, apart from Defense ($358 billion), Health and Human Services ($502 billion), and Treasury, which includes service on the rapidly increasing national debt ($368 billion).
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Zero Gravitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:29 PM
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14. Big Government
Cheap Labor
Republicans
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KeepItReal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:35 PM
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15. "What we have here is a form of looting"
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 07:38 PM by KeepItReal
"The government is not really telling the truth to the American people. Past administrations, from the time of Alexander Hamilton, have -- on the average -- run responsible budgetary policies. What we have here is a form of looting ..."

"... this is the worst government the US has ever had in its more than 200 years of history. It has engaged in extraordinarily irresponsible policies, not only in foreign and economic but also in social and environmental policy.

This is not normal government policy..."

- US Nobel Laureate George A. Akerlof (An Economist)

Bush & Co.'s economic team doesn't have Nobel prizes for economics...right?

http://csf.colorado.edu/forums/peace/aug03/msg00006.htm...
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LizW Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:42 PM
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16. Is he asking us?
If so, the answer is HELL, NO!

Unfortunately, he's not really asking, is he? He's just telling us what is going to happen, just like every other damn speech he's made in the last 2 years.

What are we going to say? No, sorry, we don't think you're responsible enough to handle another 87 billion? No, sorry, we were against this war from the start and you lied and dragged us into it anyway, so no, we don't choose to pay for occupying and rebuilding the country you trashed?

Or how about this one: Sure, George, take all you want. Spend it however you want. Oh, but you might have a little trouble getting any tax dollars from the 8 - 10% of Americans who can't find a freaking JOB! :mad:
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last1standing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:48 PM
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17. That's aproximately $4000.00 per Iraqi.
I bet that for $1000.00 each they would have risen up to handle all this themselves and saved us 66.75 billion dollars, which comes to $225.00 per U.S citizen.

Or would have allowed Enron to have another tax cut.

last1standing.
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IggleDoer Donating Member (601 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:51 PM
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18. Tomorrow's Headline -
Haliburtin announces $87B government contract
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tedzbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:20 PM
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27. Think of all the new jobs that means!!!
Of course, most jobs will be filled by the draft.
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:37 PM
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40. No!
Halliburton has to share some with Bechtel, they mustn't be greedy.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:55 PM
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19. Almost as much as Corporate Welfare...
97 Billion in 2002. Tho I'm not sure what the difference is between Iraq reconstruction and corporate welfare.

As if we didn't have enough to puke over...

:cry:
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KaraokeKarlton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 07:55 PM
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20. So why can't we afford a health care program like Dean's?
If Bush can find that much for Iraq? Talk about messed up priorities...
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Upfront Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:05 PM
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22.  Democrats In Congress
Will any of the Democrats in congress vote against this money grab?
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Steven_S Donating Member (810 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:02 PM
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21. This will provide him with political cover...
He knows he will not get nearly the total amount, and will blame future failure on the lack of money provided.

That's my bet and I'm sticking with it.
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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:07 PM
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23. That's a good bet, Steven_S, and welcome to DU!
:hi:
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wildwww2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:25 PM
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29. The blame game is the only game that Bu$h Inc. can play.
I believe you will be proven correct. All Bu$h has to do is give his prostitutes in the media his lame excuse. And like magic every news network under his former CIA director daddy`s thumb will provide political cover for his morbid ass.
Peace
Wildman
Al Gore is My President
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tokenlib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:09 PM
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24. We've spent $73 billion and he wants $80 more??
It really is hard to keep the language clean tonight....
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TheYellowDog Donating Member (498 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:09 PM
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25. Sen. Biden had a good idea tonight
Roll back some of this year's tax cut to pay for this 87 billion instead of more deficit spending.
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baby_bear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:26 PM
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30. Not just this year's
All the tax cuts enacted since W usurped office should be rolled back, at least for those making more than low-middle class wages.

But you know the Repugs intended all along to shrink non-military government, including at the state levels, including to the most needy among us, and to hell with jobs as long as profits are good.

So, don't count on it.

At the least though, we should expect the Democrats to make a lot of noise about this, including during campaigns, from sea to shining sea.

s_m

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cliss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:24 PM
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28. A small bet
They will never, EVER recover the money that they have sunk in to this country. The minute the oil pipeline is fixed, a new hole will be blasted into it. The insurgents will see to that.

Talk about driving us over a cliff!!!!

I know the BFEE feels that Iraq was the ultimate "prize" on the face of the earth to conquer and grab, but damn they forgot that there were 22 million people living on top of that oil.

Hold onto that next paycheck. We may be in for a "Mr. Toad's Wild Ride".
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this_side_up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:30 PM
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31.  All of this money will come from
Edited on Sun Sep-07-03 08:31 PM by sheeeeeesh
the new free trade agreement he signed which allows Singapore
to send 5K workers every year and ? country sends another
5K. Pretty soon those 10K per year (spouses and kids extra)
will have lots of jobs here.

Edit: I thought the background looked fake but better
than the other background.
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moondust Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 08:32 PM
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32. Invest it in renewable energy instead.
Get us OUT of the ME!!
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Kenneth ken Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:00 PM
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34. what's the accounting look like?
" I will soon submit to Congress a request for 87 billion dollars. The request will cover ongoing military and intelligence operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and elsewhere, which we expect will cost 66 billion dollars over the next year. "

If you get $87 Bn and only allocate $66 Bn you have $21 Bn unaccounted for. Is that all going to be lost to corporate profits?
That would be my bet.
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schultzee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:04 PM
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35. "This president is a misserable failure." We need to use this just
like the freepers say "bu$h is a good Christian man who has resotored dignity to the White House." It can be our new mantra in addition to "take back America." Maby we will throw the pigs out if Diebold does not steal the electiion for the pigs.
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Code_Name_D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:06 PM
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36. Sounds like Iraq is Bush's adopted nation.
87 billion for Iraq, cuts for the programs in the US.
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Nottingham Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:07 PM
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37. I'm SHOCKED! 87 Bbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbillion OMG!
How many camels does Afghanistan & Iraq need!

:bounce:
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davhill Donating Member (854 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:25 PM
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38. A Modest Fundraising Proposal
Our president has just asked the congress to provide him another 87 billion to clean up the mess he has made of Iraq and Afghanistan. There may be an alternative. Our president may not be much good at things like diplomacy or economics. There is one thing, however, at which he is exceedingly good. He has a remarkable talent for fundraising. He has taken the art of obtaining campaign donations to unprecedented levels.
Therefore he should not finance the cleanup by increasing the already staggering national debt, or worse, by betraying the taxpayers to whom he has recently returned his predecessors budget surplus, and then some. Rather, he should make use of his rare talent. He should launch in the white house, a series of thousand-dollar-a-plate dinners. To these he should invite everyone who voted for him in the 2000 election. Unfortunately a majority of the voters did not vote for him, so these dinners would only raise about $50 billion of the required amount, assuming that everyone showed up. In order to raise the remaining $37 billion, he would have to also invite the 100 million voters who did not care who won in 2000. Hopefully a third of them would now feel more patriotic and attend at $1000 a plate. This would still leave 3 or 4 billion, but he could pass the hat to some of his oil buddies. After all he has done favors for them from time to time.
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BiggJawn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:36 PM
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39. "Ka-CHUNG...Ka-CHUNG...Ka-CHUNG...."
It's SO easy when you own the printing presses, dontcha know?
Just run 'em an extra 4 hours a day, and BAM! 87 Gigabux!

Our grandkid's grandkids will be paying for this fucker's mess....
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classics Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 09:53 PM
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41. Whoever takes over in 04 needs to have Bush arrested.
and explain on television how he bankrupted the US government for his own personal adgenda.

Make him work at a burger king until its paid off.
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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Sep-07-03 10:07 PM
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42. Anyone remember the budget surplus we used to have?
Guess Bush still does, or at least thinks it still exists! Dumb mother-f**ker, thats over 7 billion per month. And I'm sure this will escalate even more, no way this is the final number.

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