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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:18 AM
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The wisdom of Ron Paul
“If you have ever been robbed by a black teen-aged male, you know how unbelievably-fleet-footed they can be.” (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

“Politically sensible blacks are outnumbered as decent people... Given the inefficiencies of what DC laughingly calls the criminal justice system, I think we can safely assume that 95 percent of the black males in that city are semi-criminal or entirely criminal.” (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

"We don't think a child of 13 should be held responsible as a man of 23. That's true for most people, but black males age 13 who have been raised on the streets and who have joined criminal gangs are as big, strong, tough, scary and culpable as any adult and should be treated as such." (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

“Opinion polls consistently show that only about 5 percent of blacks have sensible political opinions, i.e. support the free market, individual liberty and the end of welfare and affirmative action.” (Victoria Advocate, 5/24/96)

“The Criminals who terrorize our cities - in riots and on every non-riot day - are not exclusively young black males, but they largely are.” (Victoria Advocate, 8/7/96)

“There is no such thing as a hate crime.” (Ron Paul: Political Action Report, 1/15/92)

A “free market provides for the poor...” (MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour, 10/24/88 on why he is against government assistance)

"Is bailing out people that chose to live on the coastline a proper function of the federal government?” he asks. “Why do people in Arizona have to be robbed in order to support the people on the coast?" (Washington Post, 7/9/06) (Paul voted against assistance to Katrina and Rita victims, even though some of his district is on the Texas coast.)

“I am opposed to any form of government health insurance as I am opposed to the taxes, regulations, licensing requirements, and monopolistic practices, which keep health costs higher than their true market value.” (CNN Presidential Questionnaire, 1988)

As for Social Security, "we didn't have it until 1935," Paul says. "I mean, do you read stories about how many people were laying in the streets and dying and didn't have medical treatment? …Prices were low and the country was productive and families took care of themselves and churches built hospitals and there was no starvation." (Washington Post, 7/9/06)

“Something must be done to phase out the government’s involvement in Social Security. Pension and annuity plans should be the concern of the people, not the government. Political control of these things will lead only to bankruptcy and misery for retired persons.” (CNN Presidential Questionnaire, 1988M)

“Immigrants can spread diseases for which we may have no immunity. There is also the question of crime and culture. Many immigrants come from countries with different legal structures and are not willing to behave in the way we expect American citizens to behave.” (Ron Paul Political Report, 3/15/92)

"The right of secession should be ingrained in a free society. There is nothing sacred about large units of government. And there is nothing wrong with loosely banding together small units of government. With the disintegration of the Soviet Union, we too should consider it." From his newsletter in the early to mid 90s--sorry I don't have an exact date.

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StudentsMustUniteNow Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:21 AM
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1. It would be more productive to trash the freeper candidates
Instead of beating up on this guy. He's crazy, but at least he's honest.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:21 AM
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2. yeah, I see what you mean. So much truth and insight in those quotes. What a great man
:eyes:
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StudentsMustUniteNow Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:25 AM
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5. Those quotes were his HONEST opinion, I believe
Don't try to spin this against me. If I thought those quotes were insightful, I wouldn't have said he was "crazy."
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:34 AM
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16. so no one should resent bigots, but rather appreciate their honesty?
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 05:55 PM
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40. So I suppose you think we shouldn't trash the KKK either...
After all aren't they giving their honest opinion too?

Ron Paul is a Freeper candidate.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:31 PM
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48. So racism is acceptable so long as it's sincere?
What the fuck?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:23 AM
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4. He is a Republican, or did you miss that? And he's honest about his bigotry, all right.
:eyes:
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:25 AM
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6. He IS one, and that's the point.
Just because he opposes the war in Iraq does not mean he's one of us. It doesn't mean that he's on our side.

Ron Paul is an old-time racist Republican. He's no different than Strom Thurmond, no different than Trent Lott, no different that David Duke. He opposes the war. Great, fantastic. He's still a bigot, and he's still a Republican.
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StudentsMustUniteNow Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:28 AM
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11. Have I ever said he was on our side?
He is different from Trent Lott.
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:32 AM
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14. You said that it was more productive to trash the freepers.
And my point was that we ARE trashing a freeper. Ron Paul is a worthless piece of racist Repugnican garbage, and his statements merit every bit of public scorn heaped on him.
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:31 PM
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49. Pol Pot is different than Trent Lott. So what?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:26 AM
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7. And so I did. nt
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:28 AM
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10. ...
:thumbsup::rofl:
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:31 AM
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12. Honestly crazy or dishonestly crazy
doesn't make a damn bit of difference. Crazy is crazy, and Ron Paul is NUTS!

This is the type of horse shit that is being hidden from public view, and it's just this stuff that has to be put OUT THERE for everybody to see.

They only ask him the questions that make him look reasonable. They will never, ever ask him questions that put his libertarian wingnuttery out there in front. They will never, ever ask him questions about his bigotry.

People need to be warned about this man!
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StudentsMustUniteNow Donating Member (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:52 AM
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25. No. That would be foolish
If Ron Paul gains enough support in the primaries, he can split the GOP ideologically and weaken their force for the general election.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:40 AM
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75. Or. he can impress all those people who sleepwalk through life and gain their support.
And we might end up with this nutcase for president. We've had a psychopath and his cabal since 2001. How much more insanity are we suppose to take?
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:35 AM
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18. Just like glass
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:49 AM
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23. Honest crazy right-wingers tend to be even more dangerous than dishonest crazy right-wingers
The latter may modify their actions if it's clear that they will be disadvantaged (e.g. lose an election) if they don't. Those who believe their own lies tend to be fanatics to the end.
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NMMNG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:53 AM
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26. He *is* a freeper candidate
As well as a bigoted asshat.
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:21 PM
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30. hes racist and homophobic and sexist.
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WI_DEM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:42 PM
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52. Well, I guess George Wallace and Hitler were "honest" in their opinions too
but I think the point of this thread is that there are some on DU who are trying to make this guy something more than what he is just because of his stand on the war.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 05:25 PM
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68. He is a freeper candidate. He is at the rethug debates, not the Democratic debates.
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 05:54 PM
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72. He an honest...
.... racist.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:22 AM
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3. Thank you. Can people here please stop worshiping this fuckhead now?
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:28 AM
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9. It would be nice, but I won't hold my breath. I post these quotes every time
Paul rears his racist head around here. Hasn't helped yet. But I'm a southerner, an atheist, and a liberal--I like lost causes! :)
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:36 AM
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19. some people elevate anyone who criticizes Bush to Godlike status
and, when its Ron Paul, and especially now, its pathetic. Speaking out against Bush isn't exactly a radical or bold stance...
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:27 AM
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8. Ron Paul never suggests that he is even a little bit progressive.
He disagrees with the GOP on the Iraq war and not much else.

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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:31 AM
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13. All I see is another pandor to the elite, feed the fear of the working man and republican BS
that welfare and other social programs are eatting up tax dollars. In other words he is just more of the same type of republican as the rest and he is trying to out shine the rest of the pack by dressing up his garbage in a pretty package. Honest? Doubtful, after all, since when has a republican ever been honest about anything they have said or done? This one just has the guts to try to get the Reagan democrats on his side by saying what they want to hear.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:37 AM
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20. so you would categorize "Reagan Democrats" as working class who bought into the fear and lies?
Not challenging, just asking.
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mrcheerful Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:51 PM
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31. Reagan democrats from my state were mostly GMC and Ford union workers who blamed all their income
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 01:57 PM by mrcheerful
tax issues on welfare and the disabled. Reagan played into that in 2 ways, first he told them their high tax rates were because of welfare queens, Then Reagan told them that welfare queens were black women with 14 kids with different fathers. Mind you these are also the same people that threw beer bottles and cans while cursing people out for signing the recall Republican John Engler petitions. Because Engler was saving them a bundle when he cut off GA welfare benefits. Never mind the fact that their taxes went up instead of down or that not one tax dollar was saved from Englers scam.
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ComerPerro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:56 PM
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37. Was well aware of the "welfare queen" BS and lies, but never thought of that definition
that is, people who bought into that line of crap, sorta, "hey, I'm getting screwed!" (but, in an ironic twist, voted happily for the man doing the screwing).

Cool
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chemenger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:33 AM
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15. He appears to have a major issue with
young, black males ... among other things.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:35 AM
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17. THANK YOU for posting this
The recent Ron Paul pimping on here has made me want to call Terminex -- the infestation has been so bad.
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:38 AM
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21. Well, he's got my vote!
:eyes::sarcasm:

Is he a secret Imperial Wizard or something? What a jerk.
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glowing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:43 AM
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22. Some of what Ron Paul says, I don't exactly agree with.. I think
he has a lot of old school republican ideals. On the other hand, he does tell the truth about what is going on and that's a lot more than a lot of other candidates are doing.

I'm not so sure about the disease thing... When we go to certain countries, we have to get a lot of shots to go and come back. And one of the big scares is the disease with no cure... I'm not saying fear other people... but look at the T.B. guy.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:54 AM
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27. The TB guy wasn't a foreigner or an immigrant...
Anyone can spread disease; but Paul's extremist free-market health care policies are far more likely to result in dangerous epidemics than immigration is.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 11:52 AM
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24. This is scary!!!
I knew he was loony-right on economic issues, but hadn't realized quite what a racist he was!
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:07 PM
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28. thin book ...
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:00 PM
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34. True. nt
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 12:20 PM
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29. Another right-wing charmer!
They all have such a way with words!

:puke:
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IChing Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 01:53 PM
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32. Ron Paul is a kernel of corn
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deadmessengers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 02:10 PM
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33. awesome analogy n/t
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nonconformist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:04 PM
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35. Ron Paul is a glowing example of the old saying "your enemy's enemy is not your friend"
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AuntPatsy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 03:04 PM
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36. Hope this puts an end to the suspected adoration from some durs that Ron Paul
is even worthy of governing this country to hold this nations highest office, another Bushite, simply a slightly different background which seemingly has fooled intelligent individuals into falsely believing him worthy, astonishing.
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silverback Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 04:23 PM
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38. False...
Those victoria advocate quotes are demonstrably false.

Why, in thousands of articles written by Paul, are the only racist comments people come up with all out of the same little publication for which he never wrote?

It was a campaign smear, and those were never his words.

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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 04:59 PM
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39. Ok...let's remove those.
“There is no such thing as a hate crime.” (Ron Paul: Political Action Report, 1/15/92)

A “free market provides for the poor...” (MacNeil/Lehrer NewsHour, 10/24/88 on why he is against government assistance)

"Is bailing out people that chose to live on the coastline a proper function of the federal government?” he asks. “Why do people in Arizona have to be robbed in order to support the people on the coast?" (Washington Post, 7/9/06) (Paul voted against assistance to Katrina and Rita victims, even though some of his district is on the Texas coast.)

“I am opposed to any form of government health insurance as I am opposed to the taxes, regulations, licensing requirements, and monopolistic practices, which keep health costs higher than their true market value.” (CNN Presidential Questionnaire, 1988)

As for Social Security, "we didn't have it until 1935," Paul says. "I mean, do you read stories about how many people were laying in the streets and dying and didn't have medical treatment? …Prices were low and the country was productive and families took care of themselves and churches built hospitals and there was no starvation." (Washington Post, 7/9/06)

“Something must be done to phase out the government’s involvement in Social Security. Pension and annuity plans should be the concern of the people, not the government. Political control of these things will lead only to bankruptcy and misery for retired persons.” (CNN Presidential Questionnaire, 1988M)

“Immigrants can spread diseases for which we may have no immunity. There is also the question of crime and culture. Many immigrants come from countries with different legal structures and are not willing to behave in the way we expect American citizens to behave.” (Ron Paul Political Report, 3/15/92)

"The right of secession should be ingrained in a free society. There is nothing sacred about large units of government. And there is nothing wrong with loosely banding together small units of government. With the disintegration of the Soviet Union, we too should consider it." From his newsletter in the early to mid 90s--sorry I don't have an exact date.


Nope...still seems like a dickhead to me.















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silverback Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:43 PM
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43. There's a difference...
Between calling him out for being wrong on policy and accusing him of being dishonorable without any evidence.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:05 PM
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45. I posted evidence below, you simply are ignoring the evidence that Ron Paul is a racist
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:22 PM
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47. "accusing him of being dishonorable without any evidence."
You mean besides his own words?

:rofl:
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silverback Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:45 PM
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53. There's no evidence they're his words.
He's denied they are.

There's reason to believe him.

No one has ever heard him say such a thing, it's totally contrary to his nature.

I'm not just some wild eyed kid caught up in his anti war stance, I've read the guy for many years.

This wasn't him.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:47 AM
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78. Uh-huh. Little Boots denies a lot of things, too. As does Gonzales.
I don't believe them.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:09 PM
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41. You're wrong, those quotes came from Ron Paul's newsletter which he wrote
Here is another article, not from the Victoria Advocate but from the Houston Chronicle.

http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/aol-metropolitan/96/05/23/paul.html

Ron Paul is a racist, and he did say all those things.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:44 PM
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44. Thanks for posting this verification. "current events and statistical reports of the time."
Ron Paul described the quotes taken from his own newsletter as "current events and statistical reports of the time." In other words, he didn't deny making them.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:20 PM
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46. And one has to wonder where he got his current events and statistical reports from...
My guess is probably the "news" which is posted on StormFront.
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silverback Donating Member (111 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:40 PM
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51. There's no evidence they're his words.
http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=41822

He's denied they're his words.

He fired the guy who wrote them.

No one in a position to know has ever disputed that, all who've been asked have verified it.

The allegations were made in the context of an election he subsequently won.

In tens of thousands of pages of published writings, there is nothing else remotely similar to these statments, which all came out of a publication over which he had no direct editorial control, in a very brief period of time. Nor is there any similarity to be found in the style, cadence and prose of the articles in which those statements are found and any writings of Dr. Paul.

Racism is an ugly charge to make against an honorable man, and remarkably effective at shutting out a message. The GOP has never supported Paul, and actively opposed him in '96. That primary got pretty nasty on their part.

I believe you're doing the neocons work for them, they don't want him speaking out in this campaign.

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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:00 PM
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55. What a bunch of lame excuses
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 08:07 PM by MN Against Bush
So Ron Paul claims that someone else was publishing articles in his newsletter under his name and he did not do anything about it because his advisers told him not to. Well why is he allowing these people to write racist material in his publication using his name in the first place?

Secondly the article you cite says:

He said only that his remarks about Barbara Jordan related to her stands on affirmative action and that his written comments about blacks were in the context of 'current events and statistical reports of the time.'


So first in one breath he is saying he did not make these comments, and in the next breath he is saying he did but they were in the context of current events and statistical reports of the time? Where the hell was this guy getting his statistical reports from the KKK?

By all accounts including yours the quotes cited were published in his newsletter under his name. Does he not review the material that is published as his own with his financial support?

And by the way, the Free Market News is not exactly a neutral source. That is almost like citing Rush Limbaugh. Spin away all you want, but the fact is Ron Paul did publish those quotes that you are denying he said under his name.
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jobycom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 06:42 PM
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42. If it's demonstrable, demonstrate it. As for it being a "little publication"
It's the daily newspaper in Victoria, Texas, which has a metropolitan area of over 200,000 people, and is close to the metro of Houston, so it's not that small a publication.

If you know it to be false, or if you know that Paul has denied making these statements, then demonstrate this. Otherwise, don't claim they are demonstrably false.
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FreeMeFromInsanity Donating Member (44 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:40 PM
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50. The attack dogs are out
“Something must be done to phase out the government’s involvement in Social Security. Pension and annuity plans should be the concern of the people, not the government. Political control of these things will lead only to bankruptcy and misery for retired persons.” (CNN Presidential Questionnaire, 1988M)

My time is limited so I'm not going to challenge every quote/soundbite. However, I have a question for anyone who cares to answer. How did people survive in this country from 1776 thru 1935 when this country didn't have Social Security?

I also want to state for the record I never voted for a Republican. So please do not accuse me of being a freeper. Because I've went on the record saying that I'm voting for Ron Paul. I'm at the point where I don't even know if it matters anymore. This may be the last time I vote and no it's not because of sour grapes.

One more thing about SS, on the card (for you old timers) it use to say not to be used for identification purposes. Whatever happen to that? You almost can't exist without some shmuck asking for your number. I'm usually told it's for my security and protection... yeah right!
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:03 PM
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56. Read "A People's History of the United States" by Howard Zinn and you will see how people survived
You will also see how people died. It is difficult enough to be poor in America now, in those days it was even worse.

If you think the poor got by easily before the New Deal you have no clue as to what this country's history is like.
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 04:25 AM
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61. How did people survive before social security?
Edited on Fri Jun-08-07 04:26 AM by LeftishBrit
Very often, they didn't. Life expectancy tends to be low, especially for poor people, in countries without some form of welfare state.

In 1900, one-sixth of babies in Britain died before their first birthday. While a lot of the improvements in the last century are due to medical advances, a lot are due to reductions in extreme poverty. Medical advances aren't much use if you can't afford to see a doctor - or even to eat properly.
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spoony Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 05:28 PM
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69. "very often, they didn't"--excellent reply! n/t
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 07:53 PM
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54. He is not a Libertarian
You can always get a claimed libertarian as a true freeper. They don't hold up on their principles. Libertarians should have no trouble with open borders, by their own philosophy.
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TruePatriot44 Donating Member (37 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 08:04 PM
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57. Ron did not write the racist remarks
The Victorian Advocate quotes are not written by Ron Paul. Nice smear attempt.
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 09:12 PM
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58. Yes he did
Edited on Thu Jun-07-07 09:13 PM by MN Against Bush
They were published in his news letter under his name. Are you telling me that not only does he not write the material that is published under his name in his newsletter but that he does not even read it? The guy even admitted he wrote it yet claimed it was based on "current events and statistical data". Of course no real studies that were not conducted by the KKK back up his statistical data.

It is sad trying to watch the Ron Paul apologists try to claim that the words that were published under his name in his newsletter with his financial support do not represent him.

http://www.chron.com/content/chronicle/aol-metropolitan/96/05/23/paul.html
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-07-07 09:40 PM
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59. Give it up already.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 08:00 AM
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67. Well, I value your opinion highly.
Considering one of your first two posts at DEMOCRATIC Underground are defending a bigoted, anti-Semitic, RRRepublican.

:eyes:
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:46 AM
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77. You're congratulating for the wrong thing. There was no attempt to smear.
There was simple the posting of a selection of RPs own words.

I congratulate the OP for finding them and posting them. I had no idea how big of a loon this guy really was.
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Irish Runner Donating Member (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 03:02 AM
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60. I agree "Build up your candidate, don't tear down someone else's."
I can't say I agree with Paul's social policies but as a GOP you can't ask for much more, he is a throwback. If you watched the debates you'd see how he is single handily trashing the neo-cons talking points and their fear games. This is exactly what is needed to break the spell that is over half the country who are now all but ready for a nuclear first strike against Iran. Totally insane but so many of the candidates refuse to take it off the table.

It's amazing that so many people are going to such great lengths to try and trash this man who, by all accounts is honest even though you won't agree with all his positions. At least he is attacking the special interests including wars for big oil, corporate welfare and the like. Understandably, a lot of people are out to lose big money by him so I'm guessing that is the source of the smear campaign.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 07:55 AM
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66. He's a REPUBLICAN. This forum exists to critique them. You wanna push a RRR,
go to Free Republic--I'm sure they fawn all over Ron Paul.
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WhollyHeretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 05:45 PM
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71. Every racist piece of crap needs to be torn down.
Interesting how many first time posters are defending him. Hmmm...

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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:36 AM
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73. Isn't that interesting... I noticed it, too.
(Pssst. Apparently they think we won't notice.)
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:38 AM
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74. So, we should fall all over ourselves because he's honest?
Well, hell, I guess everything is okey-dokey then. Who care that he thinks America s a Christian Nation. At least he's honest about that.

Whoop-de-doo. I have higher standards for my candidate than "at least he's honest." :eyes:
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:42 AM
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76. Looking at what this man stands for isn't trashing him. He is bringing trash to the forefront
by throwing his hat into the ring.
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-08-07 05:35 AM
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62. What a piece of work...
Fits right in with the rest of those Repiglican-clowns..
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Augdog20 Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 12:21 AM
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63. video feed of Stewart meets Paul on Daily Show
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Augdog20 Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 12:26 AM
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64. Jeez Louise, he'd make Buchanon blush!
Hey, have you all read all of this nonsense?
What a paranoid, bigoted loon?!
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 04:08 AM
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65. he's like a cross between ross perot and pat buchanan....?
wacky ol' bigoted coot that every now and then spouts a line of sanity amidst the babble? kinda like if archie bunker suddenly stopped and said "...and we gotta get outta vietnam!" he amuses me to no end, but he couldn't possibly be a serious candidate. which is all the more reason to help him in the primary! :evilgrin: it'd be like a cakewalk for the democrats to win the election then. it'd be like a challenge for the DLC to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, and all that.
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Iris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-11-07 05:28 PM
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70. a special pre-adult judicial system for "black male teens," anyone?
jesus.
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Batgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:54 AM
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79. Kudos for an enlightening thread (in more ways than one) n/t
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Matsubara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-12-07 09:57 AM
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80. What an asshole.
What more can I add?
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