Any theories as to why exit polls not matching actual numbers in FL and OH

[shawn703]

BBV?

[hangemhigh]

1. Ya think?

[ramapo]

2. Diebold is a good theory

Doing all he can do to get * reelected

[CottonBear]

16. Fuck Diebold.

"Wooruff': Spread just not big enough...w/out raw #s for vote and..good projections." Now f"ing Candy on.

[aden_nak]

3. 1) Diebold. 2) Exit polls are shit.

[Mojambo]

4. Yep.

Same damn story as 2000.

If I was a minority in Florida I would be tearing it down right about now.

[theoceansnerves]

5. FL = stolen

OH = surpressed, hopefully the numbers will be enough to beat the surpression.

[cprise]

6. Diebold.

[DuaneBidoux]

7. ACTUALLY EXIT POLLS GENERALLY WORK

FLORIDA HAS BEEN STOLEN. CAN THEY DO IT IN OHIO TOO?

[mistertrickster]

17. I agree--exit polls aren't shit. They were used for decades until 2000

when they ACCURATELY showed Gore winning Florida.

This is robbery--same as in 2002. The fix was in a few key states. That's all they needed.

Oh, and by the way, who thinks Team Rove is too moral to fix the election?

This is sickening.

"I tremble for my country when I realize that God is just, and his justice will not sleep forever." Thomas Jefferson

[AmyJCNJ]

8. WTF?

I really thought we'd get FL this time. I'm about to cry.

[JPace]

9. Diebold!

No way to prove it either. The country will have to ban
paperless machines, repugs just cannot resist manipulating
the numbers.

[petepillow]

10. um. yes just one....

[goodboy]

11. fraud. Nt

[bonemachine]

12. How about early voters

Do you think FL has enough early voters this time to skew the exit polls?

[are_we_united_yet]

13. DIEBOLD!

[Philostopher]

14. Ohio has Sequoia machines in seven counties.

There are no Diebold machines used to vote in Ohio.

These machines are in minority districts in Columbus. That's why Columbus was still voting at 9:30 at night -- the machines didn't work. They appealed to get paper ballots, and got them, but the Ohio GOP will appeal the ruling that allowed the (urban, probably heavily minority) districts in Columbus to vote on paper. That's why we many not know the real Ohio tally until at least tomorrow. People were still voting for at least two hours past poll closing.

[Dirk39]

15. According to our journalists in Germany

there are still no credible results from Ohio and Florida. There seems to be a problem with the lack of voting-machines in Ohio.
Our media doesn't have to be better than yours, but our journalists are following all the american news-stations and this is, what was reported just some minutes ago.

Hello from Germany,
Dirk

[Ima]

18. welcome Dirk39

:hi:

[CottonBear]

19. Hello Dirk

I lived inGermany as a child. Wonderful country. Please do all you can to help us. Thank you from the US.

[Dirk39]

22. Hi!

But now the sad news seems to be that Bush has taken Florida again!


No, no, no!

I can't believe that.

Dirk

[Fatima]

27. Can you guys invade us?

We need to be freed from a brutal dictator, thanks

[Ohio rules]

23. there were enough voting machines in Ohio

People who wanted to vote DID

[mistertrickster]

24. I want to move to Germany. Can you get me a job--I'm a college

English teacher. Have taught ESL for many years.

This doesn't look good for our side, folks. Face it.

[Robert Oak]

20. I don't know but I sure hope someone investigates

& especially looks at mismatch and Diebold machines.

[Daisey Mae]

21. Diebold

[kdmorris]

25. Yes

Cause they managed to steal Florida again? Not just BBV, but the way they ran the polling places.

I'm white. It took me about 15 minutes to vote. To a person, EVERY SINGLE African American/Haitian American/Hispanic I spoke with at work had AT LEAST a 2 hour wait to vote. We had about 15 polling "booths". But they didn't put that many of them in the black areas. This time, they took a lot of care to STOP people from voting at all, instead of worrying about trying to STOP the counting of the votes afterwards. Of course, I don't have access to true county wide problems, etc, just things I heard at work from the people there.

They've been setting this up for 4 years. And I'm pretty upset about it. Because they still managed to steal it, but this time, they were much more clever. This time, they were more sneaky about it and made it look more legitmate.

Maybe tomorrow I'll be less bitter, but right now, it's kind of hard to watch something that I've worked so hard for go right down the tubes because the Bush people are so GOOD at lying and stealing.

[mistertrickster]

28. Yup, I'm with you. And the killer hypocrisy? All the Repubs were

telling the exit pollsters that their number one concern was "moral values."

FUCKING MORAL VALUES! While we rain down death and destruction on Iraqi children, they're fucking worried about "moral values."

If there is a God, I hope She whacks these idiots upside the head.

[kdmorris]

33. Moral Values

I want to whack them upside the head. How did morality come to include the utter hyprocrisy they have? My older sister voted for Bush "because he's a good, decent Christian man". OMG!!!! If there was a Jesus, he's rolling over in his grave. What happened to "Blessed are the meek", "Blessed are the poor" and "Do unto others"??

How the HELL does any of the fit with the arrogant, mean-spirited attitude we show around the world? Or the "Fuck the poor" attitude we have toward our own people here?

Man, I'm obviously losing my mind. I just do not understand how this election can even be close.

DAMN!! They just called Florida for Bush!! Need to go have a good cry!

[AndyTiedye]

26. DIEBOLD

        We Make Democracy DIE

[Shopaholic]

29. Fraud?

Plain, pure, and simple.

[ElectroPrincess]

30. you forgot "shameless" ... now that the media is on * side ...

they don't even have to explain their fraud. The Guardian and Greg Palast are just bad dreams ... pay no attention to the facts sheeple. I've never been more ashamed of the ignorance of many of my fellow Americans.

[confusionisnext]

31. margin of error?

Exit polls take SAMPLES, meaning that there is an error associated with exit poll results. Florida actual results are actually consistent with the exit poll results, it seems.

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