Ohio: Voting by race? (was a polling question) WTF?

[SoCalDem]

aren"t we past this?? I guess not :cry:

so , from the exit polls, if you are uneducated, over 65 and a racist, you did not vote for Obama? :eyes:

Whodathunkit?

Selma, Ohio?
Montgomery, Ohio?
Tuscaloosa, Ohio?
Birmingham, Ohio?

I guess I thought better of Ohioans..

Gotta run..

Guess I'll check the finals later when I get home..

Hopefully I am wrong..

[muntrv]

1. I know. I couldn't believe it when Andrea Mitchell brought up race as an exit poll.

[gemdem]

2. As a Buckeye, I'm embarassed

According to MSNBC 20% of white Ohio voters said race was a factor and an overwhelming number of these voted for Clinton.

x(

[bicentennial_baby]

5. 8/10

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[monktonman]

3. I'm visiting Salem, Ohio right now

Trust me, these people are bigots big time.

[BeatleBoot]

4. They asked "by Age". too.

[SoCalDem]

11. need your diaper changed, eh?

:P

[BeatleBoot]

16. How many polls and exit polls have NOT asked that question?

Unless you're just ready to slip the old race card into an Ohio loss.

It doesn't make any sense.

[Connie_Corleone]

6. It's time for me to move out of this racist state.

What a pathetic state. And I live in one of the worst counties.

[curvy rider]

24. Perhaps they voted based on the issues

Not everyone votes based on race.

[BeatleBoot]

7. They asked "by Gender", too!!!!

Unbelievable!!!!!

[global1]

8. I Have Clients In Ohio And Am There A Couple Of Times A Month.....

Ohioans are weird. I really don't understand them. Even the liberals are conservative. A lot of rednecks and backwards thinking people. Not very progressive. I sit back and think that Ohioans don't really represent the majority of the American people. Ohioans are a people amongst themselves. If HRC wins Ohio - I really don't know that it speaks for the rest of the country. Now I know that I'll probably hear that those that don't win Ohio - don't win the presidency.

I look at these exit poll results that MSNBC is reporting. With the way the weather was there today - I would think that HRC's cohort might not come out to vote. Obama - with a younger following - might still surprise us. Lot of colleges in Ohio. Obama had a really strong GOTV ground game. I hoping that though the poll numbers look strong for HRC 80% of 3000 voters is 2400 votes. But 50% of 10,000 people is 5000 votes.

[Syrinx]

9. Race Matters Less in Politics of South

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/21/us/politics/21race.html?_r=1&em&ex=1203742800&en=d560233b237b6ca3&ei=5087%0A&oref=slogin

[NashVegas]

10. That Gets Noted In Every State

And there's a little more to it. If you keep reading in, people who were more concerned about the economy and health care above all went for Hillary. People who were more concerned about Iraq went for Obama.

And it's really not fair to call the 61% of white people who did not vote for Obama racists if you aren't also going to call the 91% of black people who did, as well.

[monktonman]

14. Have you ever spent time here??

If you had youd realize that people here really are fucked up.
I've never heard so much racist, bigoted hate talk in my life.
and this is from the people I get along with.

[NashVegas]

28. Drove Through Once

And no I'm not surprised, because I've seen it in upstate NY and here in TN and in Georgia, too.

I know one thing: the more "out" it is, the easier it is to address, the easier it is to know if you're dealing with someone with an attitude - regardless of which way it goes. And it usually goes more than one way.

[RethugAssKicker]

12. That seems to be the only thing that explains such a large

lead for Clinton... They both have pretty much the same policy towards
Nafta.

What a shame...but racism is not isolated to the South...never was.

[ecstatic]

13. And they wonder why their economy is so f*cked up. They're worried about

the wrong things while the rich and powerful laugh all the way to the bank.

[monktonman]

20. Exactly....

I've said many times to people around here that while your worried about whos fucking who and what color your neighbor is, the pukes are shipping your jobs away and laughing at you.
Fucking idiots.

[MonkeyFunk]

15. Huh?

What's wrong with that? There's been huge discussion about how either candidate does with different minorities. They get those numbers from exit polls and other polls that ask about race.

I don't get the fake outrage.

[slor]

17. As a former Cincinnatian...

and an AA, it comes as no surprise. There are many good people in Ohio, but still enough bigots to make me realize that I will always be thankful for all of the non-bigots of the world.

[sjdnb]

18. Really, you are seriously asking this question this election?

I smell flamebait.

[SoCalDem]

19. saw it LIVE on MSNBC.. Andrea Mitchell..

and i am not the only one who saw it....no flames here..flameproof :)

[MonkeyFunk]

22. But what's the objection?

It's asked in EVERY state. Remember all the discussions of how well or or how poorly each candidate did among african-americans or latinos?

I honestly don't understand what upsets you about this.

[slor]

26. The objection is due to the high number of...

people who said it mattered. I lived most of my life in Ohio, and this is part of the reason I found it so easy to leave, after living there the better part of 38 years. The sad part is that the job problems encourage the racism, and you get the feeling that politicians encourage it too.

[monktonman]

21. Spend a little time here

and then tell me about flamebait.

[zalinda]

23. And so, does that mean that you're a racist

if you don't like Obama and don't vote for him? Or could it be that you are intelligent enough to recognize an empty suit when you see one?

You see, you can't win.......you are called a racist no matter what. Thanks Obama.

zalinda

[SoCalDem]

25. Hillary's an empty suit? I did not say that

:)

It's the gleeful reporting of the "inside the numbers" reporting that's disgusting..

our woeful media wants division, and apparently desperation in campaigns les the Clintons to oblige them..

[woolldog]

29. Right.

that's why the more educated the voter, the more likely s/he voted Obama.

[gemdem]

30. It doesn't mean you're a racist if you don't support Obama

But if race is a deciding factor (for or against a candidate), then you probably start to look like one. That's the point of this thread.

If you don't support Obama because you don't like him as a candidate, or you don't like his positions on issues, those are valid reasons to not vote for him. However, if you won't vote for him simply because he's black (or you vote for him only because he's black), then that's a problem.

And just so we're clear, if you don't support Clinton because you don't like her as a candidate, or you don't like her positions on issues, those are valid reasons to not vote for her. However, if you won't vote for her simply because she's a woman (or you vote for her only because she's woman), then that's a problem, too.

[LiberalAndProud]

27. Huh?

No we are not not not 'past this'. If we were past this, fried chicken would just be tasty dead bird. We are not anywhere close to 'past this'.