10-26-2007 DU straw poll of all announced Democratic candidates

[bobthedrummer]

Poll question: 10-26-2007 DU straw poll of all announced Democratic candidates

keep kicked, with the membership here it would be interesting to get at least a thousand or more votes in this latest DU poll of all the candidates.

Let's do it.

[NV Whino]

1. Kick for Dennis

[MichDem10]

18. Edwards!

[peace frog]

79. I second that emotion

Since Gore is not in the race, it's Edwards all the way.

[Divine Discontent]

119. my sentiments exactly.... No Gore, I choose Edwards

[axollot]

193. Same here........I love Kucinich though - maybe VP?? n/t

[MethuenProgressive]

126. Kucinich 213, Edwards 183, All Others 80 Clinton 60, Obama 51.

Kucinich 213, Edwards 183, All Others 80, Clinton 60, Obama 51.

Poll result (587 votes)
Biden (43 votes, 7%)
Clinton (60 votes, 10%)
Dodd (21 votes, 4%)
Edwards (183 votes, 31%)
Gravel (5 votes, 1%)
Kucinich (213 votes, 36%)
Obama (51 votes, 9%)
Richardson (11 votes, 2%)

[Duval]

82. Straw poll

:D I did, too!! I'm new, but I'll catch up! DU is super great.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

90. Welcome to DU, Duval.

[bobthedrummer]

141. Welcome to DU Duval.

Thanks for voting.
:hi:

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST-IMPEACH CHENEY NOW!
:patriot:

[Mellowtone]

245. Your "kick" has to be

accompanied by a $2300 check, if you REALLY think this is about votes!

[FSogol]

2. I'm surprised Dodd's star isn't rising.

Wish he could take over Democratic control of the Senate.

[PassingFair]

128. It is, in MY book, FSogol! n/t

[NastyDiaper]

165. /agreed

I think that people are becoming more aware. The real-time poll for Dodd might be closer to "Are you aware of Dodd's position and activities?".

I think he's making great progress....

[tbyg52]

190. I voted for Kucinich by reflex

and I still stand by it because he hasn't wavered!

but....

at the moment,

DODD ROCKS!!! :yourock:

Hope he sticks by it.

There's a few people in the federal government who may save us yet.

[gateley]

3. Biden.

[phen43]

27. GO OBAMA GO

Hey, there's a new Obama supporter in town!!

[Basileus Basileon]

4. Edwards, and it's interesting how much Obama has fallen here. nt

[ChairmanAgnostic]

5. there was a time to grab said bull by the head ornaments, and he refused

being nice is one thing. Programming your entire campaign on one tune is tonedeaf.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

6. Poor Fella, He Was McLurkined

DSB

[Clark2008]

233. It's interesting to me how popular Edwards is given his Senate record.

Oy vey!

[bigwillq]

7. DK!

:bounce:

[lostnotforgotten]

77. Go Dennis Go!

eom

[Mark D.]

116. Yep

And that's my vote also.

[bobthedrummer]

8. IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST-IMPEACH CHENEY NOW!

Dennis is my kind of Democrat.
:patriot:

[huskerlaw]

9. Edwards.

No question.

[robinlynne]

11. How bout Edwards and Kucinich joining forces?

[girl gone mad]

13. I think it will likely happen..

at some point.

[huskerlaw]

20. That would make me VERY happy

I honestly like them both.

[slick8790]

37. I could see a similar deal as in 2004.

Where they told their supporters to caucus for the other if either of them wasn't viable in a certain area.

[Mark D.]

117. That's right.

The one struggling in 3rd in Iowa in 2004 ended
up on top. It can happen again for Edwards now
as it did for Kerry then. As the shine of Dean
faded as he seemed less electable which gains
priority as we get closer to the election. It
will be the same for Edwards who is found in
survey after survey more electable than HK.
DK as VP will ensure that those who think
Edwards won't be left enough will have a
chance of gaining their votes as well...

[southerncrone]

96. THE Dream Team!

:toast:

[Mark D.]

118. Actually

Gore / Kucinich is the dream team (Edwards can be Attorney General).

[southerncrone]

149. Speaking of the Dream Team of present reality, but

I could live w/your Dream Team in a Dream, very easily & LIKE IT!

BTW, Welcome to DU! :pals: :hi: :toast:

Just talking about these guys makes me all smilie, can you tell?

[axollot]

195. I like that one too mate! n/t

[Ninga]

10. Keep it kicked.

[Capn Sunshine]

12. Swarm! Swarm!

:hide:

[bobthedrummer]

14. Surely we can get at least 1,000 DU votes in this poll over the weekend-kick

[momto3]

15. Biden. eom

[gateley]

34. Thanks for the Biden vote - and welcome to DU!

:hi:

[bonito]

16. Kick

[tandot]

17. Why is Richardson always polling so low?

He even was nominated four times for the Nobel Peace price:

http://www.richardsonforpresident.com/about_bill?id=0007

"In recognition of his efforts around the world, Bill has been nominated four times for the Nobel Peace Prize. Each nomination has focused on his international peace mediation, hostage rescue and his commitment to justice. One of the nominating letters put it best: "Bill Richardson has shown his fight in the struggle of humanity by shining the beam of reason into those corners of the world darkened by nuclear peril for far too long, helping to ensure that we can live in a world where arms hold us together -- they don't keep us apart."

[Basileus Basileon]

22. Possibly the worst non-Gravel debate performances of the lot.

I initially supported him because of his resume, but he's not exactly inspiring in person. I simply don't think he'd win.

[Mark D.]

120. I Agree

Learning of his resume' years ago, before he became
a national figure, Richardson was impressive but he
delivers his message like a drunk mailman and there
is a kind of confusion about him at times that the
more saavy Rudy Gulliani (the likely GOP nominee)
would pounce on. Kucinich would clean up Rudy.
Gore / Edwards would also probably best him...
Not that it matters. Kerry whipped Bush in all
debates, and even won the election (but 'lost'
due to the GOP election tactics and electronic
voter fraud) and still didn't get to be president.

[lyonn]

169. Kerry won all the debates

The media chose to ignore the truth, as usual. When bush stutters/stammers, speaks in foreign tongues, and yet gets praise from the media you know for sure Kerry has lost the election.

We have already been told who will be nominated from each party. They act like Rudy, Thompson and Mitt have something worth while to offer the country??? And hack on Hillary, ever so carefully, since they want her to be the candidate (in my opinion).

Rudy should be the easiest to prove he is a fake. Old newspaper clippings should do it.

Biden supporter here.

[bobthedrummer]

19. Coming up on 3 hours and only 128 votes-we can DU much better-kick

[ElizabethDC]

21. Hillary! n/t

[bobthedrummer]

23. 534 reads, 142 votes-we can DU better...

[joe_sixpack]

24. A Go for Joe!

Biden's the one

[Name removed]

25. Deleted message

Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.

[superkia]

41. The OP had the same poll on the 24th and with 235 votes...

Kucinich was second with %25 to Edwards %31. I wish more people would join in on these kinds of polls.

[Moochy]

87. Kucinich Brownshirts?

Kucinich Brownshirts? ????? Yeah because they are so authoritarian and organized toward a fascist cult of personality...

"shot their wad"

Cognitive dissonance anyone?

[gateley]

35. "Joe" must mean "highly intelligent and discerning". Thanks! nt

[bobthedrummer]

26. Vote your choice, not even 200 votes recorded-we can DU better

[Colobo]

28. Obama!

[superkia]

29. DAmn the one from the 24th had 235 responses and my boy...

Dennis Kucinich was at %25, now hes dropped to %19. Come Dk supporters where you hiding.

[bobthedrummer]

30. I'm for Dennis-but why can't a DU poll get a minimum of 1,000 votes???

[superkia]

33. I think some people are afraid that their candidate wont get the...

results that want to see. I love it when I see polls like this with only candidates that are running and not any hopefuls or others that people would like to run. I wish there was a way that you could put a poll on the front page and it would stay for awhile so we could get an idea of how DUers are voting as of today. I don't put much stock in the national polls because I'm not sure who they are polling, how they are asking the questions, in what orders the candidates names are given or if all the candidates are even in the poll. I would love to have a poll where all DUers took part so we could see how a poll would look when taken by people that educate themselves on the candidates and politics instead of the average joe that answers there phone, knows nothing about the candidates and just gives an answer reflecting what names he has seen on television, so he can get on with his day. I hope you can get something going with it!

[bobthedrummer]

36. Even assuming that DU has only 50,000 members, why can't a poll of all candidates

get at least 1,000 votes?

It would be much more interesting, regardless of whom one supports.

Keep this kicked, there aren't even 200 votes-yet almost 800 views.

It doesn't matter who starts a poll of this type-there should be at least a 1,000 DUers participating.

[superkia]

40. 800 views and less than 200 views? Just makes me feel the same...

as I stated, people wont even participate because they are afraid of the outcome. Who knows!

[bobthedrummer]

46. I've been here for awhile-let's DU something new like a 1,000 vote poll

the only folks here that are really afraid of this poll might be those that are paid.

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST-IMPEACH CHENEY NOW!

[TheFarseer]

125. I wonder if views counts lerkers?

who don't have a login name?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

78. Every Time You Click On A Thread It Counts As A View

Even if the same person is clicking...

[DemBones DemBones]

31. I just checked in and voted for Dennis. nt

[bobthedrummer]

32. This poll of all candidates was started 8 hours ago, less than 200 votes-we can DU better

I voted for DK in 2004, and assuming primaries are held will do it again here in WI regardless of all else. Grassroots and other voluntary work also.

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST-IMPEACH CHENEY NOW!

[RebelSansCause]

38. let's go Dennis, a real Democrat

[williesgirl]

39. Definitely Edwards.

[Poiuyt]

42. Edwards for me

[bobthedrummer]

43. I've cross-posted this in GD, that should draw more votes.

If we can't DU at least 1,000 votes on a weekend something is wrong.

Keep this kicked and let's DU it.

[lonestarnot]

44. DK

[bobthedrummer]

45. 900 views, finally broke 200 votes, need 800 more-kick

[Change has come]

47. Edwards

:kick:

[ancient_nomad]

48. Edwards for me!

:kick:

[bobthedrummer]

49. Almost a thousand views, coming up on 250 votes-what's up with that after 9 1/2 hours

We can DU it.

[peace13]

50. It is so nice to see my person on the ballot!

Go Dennis go! Peace and thanks for this! Kim

[bobthedrummer]

52. Keep it kicked-there are over 1,000 views-we will get 1,000 DU votes

the sooner the better-then we can all discuss it for a day or so...

[gateley]

62. I know what you mean! :-)

[MissDeeds]

51. Edwards

[Stardust]

53. Kick for Kooch!

[peace13]

54. This is a pretty cool idea.

Hey Skinner how about a DU primary sometime soon. That would give us something to talk about. Peace, Kim

[stranger81]

55. another kick for Dennis -- thanks for posting the poll! [n/t]

[Donnachaidh]

56. Kicked and Voted

For :bounce: Edwards!

[FloridaJudy]

57. I'm for Dennis

But I could happily live with an Edwards Presidency. I could live with any Democratic Presidency, although some candidates would not make me jump for joy.

[bobthedrummer]

58. Let's DU it, kick

[peace13]

59. Kick. n/t

[Cookie wookie]

60. Stephen Colbert!

[bobthedrummer]

61. DU it

[bobthedrummer]

63. 1,265 views, 274 votes-DU it all night and day

[billyoc]

64. Kick for the bar closing crowd.

THAT should be fun... :eyes:

[seriousstan]

65. I must issue the obligatory...Where is Ron Paul?

:hide:

[southerncrone]

99. OP included Kucinich instead!

[scarletwoman]

114. "Instead"??? (nt)

[southerncrone]

152. Both have been excluded from debates in past. A JOKE.

I'm aware that Paul is a R.

[scarletwoman]

154. Sorry, I couldn't figure out where you were coming from, that's why the "???".

My apologies.

[scarletwoman]

112. Ron Paul is a Republican. This is a poll of Democratic candidates.

Asking "where's Ron Paul" in a poll of Democratic candidates isn't "obligatory", it's just plain stupid.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

66. K&R ...to keep the poll out there. ...n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

67. kick

[Froward69]

68. Rec 30

I would like to see where this goes.

[orleans]

69. you must have forgotten about goe. (is thee a place for a write in?) n/t

[southern_belle]

70. k

[xultar]

71. I'm undecided.

[the other one]

72. Like I said

100 votes or 300 votes, the percentages don't change.

I wonder what the minimum number is before we have an accurate sample. It seems somewhat less then 100. I voted last night when their was 98 votes, and the percentage of votes per candidate hasn't changed, except that Gravel picked up 3 votes when before he had none.

BTW, what happened to Kucinich people? Did they realize after that Colbert appearance that DK is actually a joke? He sure seemed to consider himself and his candidacy a joke that night. A chance to reach a large constituency and he spends it making stupid jokes. He was even less impressive than he was in 04 when he went on the Daily Show and talked only of one issue - his own ability to run the Iraq war better than Bush.

[DutchLiberal]

109. I think Dennis did great on the Colbert show.

He showed all who watched what a great sense of humor he has. Maybe you haven't noticed, but image and personality today are -sadly- considered more important than issues. Now, Dennis was always the guy with the best stance on all the issues, but his image wasn't very good, because he was portrayed as this boring, weird-looking guy. Now, he has convinced a lot of people he has a very humorous side, too. And I've seen people write (on YouTube) that they had no idea about Kucinich and what he stands for before he went onto Colbert's show, but now they are going to do research on his stances on the issues.

So I think it showed he takes his run for presidency very serious.

[axollot]

196. The Dark Horse n/t

[terrya]

73. Kick for other DU'ers who haven't seen this

[Ninga]

74. Saturday morning kick for this puppy!

[man4allcats]

75. DK!

Go, Dennis!

[Cobalt Violet]

76. K & R.

:kick:

[Ninga]

80. The DK's know how to GOTV.

[vanboggie]

81. Go JE!

Despite the "Hillary has it" mentality of the MSM, I think this is a good snapshot of what the real thinking is out in Dem land. Edwards/Kucinich - I like that combo!

[madmunchie]

83. It is pretty depressing when you look at this poll and see all of the

Edwards supporters. Short memories and the same superficiality that I see in Repubs voters. I am at the point where I figure what is the use. When "DEMOCRATS" support somebody with JE's record it makes me want to sit home and just forget about voting in the GE.

[unc70]

108. Nice try, but not a winning argument. Your post attacks DU "voters"

Among a large number of positive posts supporting various candidates or commenting on the results, your post is the only one I see that actually attacks the supporters of any candidate.

"Superficial"????

[madmunchie]

171. Yep, superficial....Edwards record in the Senate is dismal, his

votes reflect a very flawed judgment process. Yet, while supporting JE, many people here on DU go after Repubs for holding many of the same positions that JE had voted for. But, because JE now SAYS that he is sorry for his many disastrous votes in the Senate, way too many DUers choose to believe in his rhetoric. When I see the poll and all the people buying the candidate solely based on his sales pitch...because that all that he has to show for what he might do if he were elected POTUS...it is downright depressing. So, sorry if I won't be one of the cheer leading followers of JE. I look for substance and after the disastrous last 7 years, I would HOPE that Dems would be a little bit more discriminating when analyzing another POTUS candidate. Instead I see a bunch of people choosing somebody with NO CREDENTIALS and NO PROOF that he is capable of actually DOING the job.

This forum isn't just for the "yes" people and/or the cheerleaders...it is also for opposing opinions, criticism and debate, deal with it.

[RoccoR5955]

84. Today I would vote for Edwards... Tomorrow, who knows?

It's been a battle for me. Sometimes I think Kucinich, sometimes Edwards, heck, one day I thought about Dodd.
BUT -- If Gore were in this race, he would have my vote, because he is the most qualified, and smartest person to ever hold the office.

[phen43]

85. GO OBAMA GO

:yourock:

[NMDemDist2]

86. this is so difficult

i still haven't made up my mind......

but I voted for my favorite du jour anyway.

[bobthedrummer]

88. DU it

and my, doesn't a poll of all the candidates look different with more DU participation?

We're getting close to the halfway mark.

Vote for your choice.

DU it.

[Kurovski]

89. Kick.

So far, my two favorite candidates are in the lead.

[stimbox]

91. bounce

:bounce:

[5X]

92. I hope this poll is representative of the US as a whole,

would give me at least some hope for our country.

[More Than A Feeling]

93. Wow, Clinton and Biden beating Obama?

That's just a bit of a change!

[robertpaulsen]

94. TTT!

:kick:

[southerncrone]

95. Kick it!!

:kick:

Kucinich for King! (That's what we have now, right?)

[Faux pas]

97. DK all the way! Finding it funny that the wildly vocal HRC supporters

here seem to be such a small group according to this poll. 11% at the time of this post...I'm thinking that in the 'real world' this percentage is probably about right too.

[Poll_Blind]

101. I would agree about the percentage, at least for Democrats who stay...

..relatively informed. But many Democrats aren't as well-informed as we are. As the late Anne Richards would say, the less well-informed "have their heart in the right place".

  BTW, no wonder the same names keep popping up when it comes to the Hillary threads which often insult so many DU-ers for not "being on the bandwagon". It's not that Hillary supporters are particularly aggressive or mean-spirited, it simply seems a few mean-spirited, aggressive posters have made a habit of posting frequently.

PB

[Faux pas]

200. Now I see that HRC has dropped to 10%. LOL proves your

point about the 'few' aggressive posters. And, confirms my suspicions about trumped up poll numbers. Does my heart gooooooood. :)

[Connonym]

102. I keep thinking the same thing

I've been telling myself that it must be because we aren't an average representation of America here on DU but part of me does wonder whether there is a more sinister reason why HRC polls so high "in the real world"

[Faux pas]

201. I've always believed that her 'numbers' have been a fantasy

pushed on the public by the corporate press. Seeing her at 10% on a lib site lets me know that not everyone has been 'dumbed down'. YeeHa!

[Kermitt Gribble]

98. Edwards.

but Dodd certainly has drawn my attention this past week.

[Laurab]

100. K&R GOTV! n/t

[emilyg]

103. Sat. Kick for Hillary.

[1monster]

104. DK all the way...

:kick:

[ChairmanAgnostic]

105. interesting how close those

weak, second tier candidates are, and how close they are to each other. Biden, Obama and Hill.

[felipe]

106. Go Dennis

[donf]

107. Another vote for Kucinich!!!

The best choice in this poll by a mile!

[DutchLiberal]

110. Kucinich, of course!

However, I've become so cynical that I believe Bush will find a way to cancel the 2008 elections (fake terror alert?) and stay in power. Otherwise, I believe the Republicans will steal the elections again and we will see president Guilliani in the White House in 2009.

[annabanana]

111. kickety kick. . . . n/t

[slipslidingaway]

113. Kucinich...No on Patriot Act, No to China Most Favored Nation,

No on Iran Freedom Act etc.


It's difficult to put the power back in the bottle once it is unleashed :)

So I would prefer someone who realizes that upfront, not years later.

[slipslidingaway]

115. Kucinich moving up in this NH poll

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3652013#3652393


Obama and Edwards are just not catching up to Clinton when you look at the polls on this site since January 2007 to present. Maybe their message is, for the most part, too similar to what Clinton is saying???


posted here...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3652013&mesg_id=3652393

Weekly Presidential Tracking Polling History

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/election_2008__1/weekly_presidential_tracking_polling_history

Date Clinton Obama Edwards


10/22/07 46% 24% 11%


01/17/07 22% 21% 15%

[Mark D.]

124. Why?

People are confused why Hillary is polling so 'unlikeable' and yet leads polls.
It's really simple. And if anything, it will help her against the GOP if she was
nominated. I'll support her then if she is, as even a too GOP Democrat is far
better than a true GOP. But I still support a REAL democrat in Kucinich/Gore.

But I digress. Why is Hillary leading polls yet so unpopular as a person? It is
simple. Folks remember one thing. Life was better when Bill was in office. I'd
say in all possible ways except controversy/attention over bullshit vs. what's
a vast ignorance of much greater problems now found in Whitehouse vermin.

Folks simply don't like Hillary most of the time. But will vote for her knowing
Bill Clinton will live in the Whitehouse another 4 or 8 years becuase of that.
They know he won't just watch TV, & bake cookies. He will likely be nearly
as involved on every big issue she has to deal with, and she'll be fine with
that. Like it or not, dis their marriage or not, they know how to work as a
team. They know their plans worked in the 90s and could work again now.

That said. I'm just stating reasonings for others. I still would rather see
Dennis Kucinich or at least Al Gore or Edwards. But I'm not the masses.
I'm just trying to figure out why they can hate but want to elect Hillary.
I am sure I'm not the only one who's thought of this. Anyone else also??

[slipslidingaway]

216. Welcome to DU and I believe what you say is true. Things were

better under Clinton. Although I am not sure how many people realize that some of what we are seeing today, loss of jobs to overseas countries and the number of people coming across the southern border, are because of legislation passed while Clinton was in office. The media does a poor job of conveying this fact.

[Divine Discontent]

121. someone in an ability to send these results to John & Dennis' campaigns?

It should be uplifting to them. And sorry, any secretive-GOP lovers, the more and more people I anonymously talk to in lines, at functions, etc, are as liberal as I am when I ask them their opinions w/o giving mine. Albeit, I'm not in the sticks, but still, it's promising to hear so many people be open to accepting war in Iraq was a horribly misguided rouge to a 9/11 response, that people can be with whomever they wish, and that we shouldn't judge each other for our beliefs, oh - and gas is causing everything to be outrageous.

[Nostradammit]

122. Kick

Mighty revealing.

[Catherine Vincent]

123. I voted!

[PassingFair]

127. I have officially moved into the Dodd camp.

His stand on the FISA/NSA issue made me take a third look at him.

Me likey.

[scarletwoman]

129. Here's a kick -- let's get more votes on this poll! (nt)

[RufusTFirefly]

130. WTF? 65+ RECS but gone from the GREATEST page???

Or perhaps I'm just missing something?
(sorry about the caps.)

[Nutmegger]

131. Threads on the greatest stay up for twenty-four hours. [n\t]

[RufusTFirefly]

132. Aha! Thank you! Sorry to generate undue alarm! n/t

[2008]

133. dupe (nt)

[jmatthan]

134. Every straw poll has had DK at the top

I listen and rate almost every major Liberal Talk Show.

Over the last two months, almost every major Liberal Talk Show Host (all around America) has carried out these straw polls.

Without any doubt, whether it be Thom Hartman, Ray Taliaferro, Mike Malloy or anyone else, DK has left every other candidate standing way way behind.

This straw poll only confirms what the public think.

But the Democrat Party nomination process does not appear to consider the public but the image creation power of a candidate based on the money / power political game being played - and in that it is obvious only those who play by the rules of the Corporate Lobbyists will feature at the top.

The only objection I keep hearing from DK's opponents is that he is not electable - but if you vote for DK, HE IS ELECTABLE!!!!

I only hope that finally you can overcome this rather negative thinking and nominate a candidate that will make the world trust in your country once again!

[LWolf]

135. Next May will see my 2nd primary vote for DK.

Even though the race will have been all but decided by then, between the early primary wars.

[bobthedrummer]

139. And why hasn't DU, with thousands and thousands of members, had even one little DU poll of at least

a thousand?

It's certainly time for that accomplishment here, regardless of what candidate one supports or how this latest DU poll of all announced Democratic candidates turns out.

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST-IMPEACH CHENEY NOW!
:patriot:

[bobthedrummer]

136. DU is going to have it's first ever poll based on !,000 DU votes

which certainly isn't scientific but is quite interesting.

Keep this kicked, we are going to DU it.

[RebelSansCause]

137. kick

:kick:

[Karenina]

138. Kick!

:kick:

[bobthedrummer]

140. Almost 3,300 views compared to less than 1,000 DU votes

We can DU better than that, people. Keep this kicked until we get there.

[scarletwoman]

142. The number of views really doesn't mean anything. I've clicked on this thread at least a dozen times

to see how the poll numbers are shaping up. Every time I click, I raise the "view" count by 1 more. 3,300 views are not *unique* views, they're views like mine, checking out the poll results or whatever. I could only vote once (which I did last night), but I can click on this thread an unlimited number of times, and each click will be counted as a "view".

That being said, I'm happy to help keep this kicked up. :D

sw

[bobthedrummer]

144. I know, it's our claimed membership-even if it were halved getting 1,000 votes

should have been done long ago scarletwoman. Then, DU being DU, it will get even more interesting when we achieve that simple goal;-)

Some of the earliest comments upthread are already quite a hoot!

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST-IMPEACH CHENEY NOW!
:patriot:

[scarletwoman]

145. It's very easy for any one particular thread to not be seen by lots of posters here.

In fact, most topics that get widespread attention here are the ones about which multiple threads get posted.

I do agree with you, though, it does seem like it shouldn't be THAT hard to get 1,000 votes. :shrug:

I'll just keep doing what I can to keep this, and your post in GD about this poll, kicked up. I support your goal of reaching 1,000 votes!

sw

[fed-up]

143. Kucinich in the lead, now w/226!! Unlike our reps I will vote my values!

[madinmaryland]

146. Kicked for the Dodd Supporters!

:kick:

[ixion]

147. Kucinich Rocks!!

:woohoo:

[whirlygigspin]

153. Biden

He knows how to get things done, period.



just take a look at this interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6fzbvOvU18

[scarletwoman]

148. kick (nt)

[Pale Blue Dot]

150. kick nt

[LWolf]

151. Happy to kick this one again

for DK.

[tomg]

155. Going with Kucinich, but

glad to see Edwards a very solid second. The others I can sort of live with. For either Kucinich or Edwards, I will gladly work.

[southerncrone]

156. KICK!

Hopin' to reach 1,000, here's Kick #2,
Let's Go DU!

:kick:

[Catchawave]

157. 656 votes!

:kick:

[scarletwoman]

160. 658! Kick!

[Bright Eyes]

158. Kucinich!

[emlev]

159. Kick for Dennis! n/t

[scarletwoman]

161. 669 votes -- kick!

[Flabbergasted]

162. reply 676.

[sicksicksick_N_tired]

163. Thanks. I cast my vote. Honestly, though, I'd like to see ALL of them in executive positions.

No matter what the outcome, each of the candidates has strengths I admire. If I could choose, I would put each and every one in charge of every potent position of the executive branch.

On edit: I'm just so damn scattered and hurried. UGH!!!

[Flabbergasted]

166. You know what would happen....

All these folks have rather large egos. None of them are going to like taking orders and working together. You'd have a huge ego war.

[NastyDiaper]

164. Dodd. But I'm also still in a holding pattern for you-know-who.

[bobthedrummer]

167. I just linked this poll to every DU Group dedicated to a candidate in it.

I'm confident that we will reach at least 1,000 DU votes, as far as I know a DU first.

Thanks to all that have participated so far.

Let's get a few hundred more- just DU it.

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST-IMPEACH CHENEY NOW!
:patriot:

[Ghost in the Machine]

168. Voted and kicking for Kucinich!

Feel free to steal this image. I made it... you can download it or hotlink to my server with it.

PEACE!

[scarletwoman]

170. 315 votes away from 1,000. I'm really surprised it's taking this long! Have you posted a link in the

Lounge yet?

[bobthedrummer]

172. Done, thanks for suggesting that-I posted my first post there in 2001...

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST-IMPEACH CHENEY NOW!

[scarletwoman]

173. You're welcome! Hope it helps bring the vote count up! (nt)

[madrchsod]

174. interesting that dennis and john are leading

by this wide a margin. the majority of the posts and treads are about obama or clinton....?

[bobthedrummer]

175. Let's see what changes when we get to 1,000 votes for the first time

that will be even more interesting!

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST-IMPEACH CHENEY NOW!
:patriot:

[scarletwoman]

179. Kind of the classic case of the "small, but vocal minority", isn't it. (nt)

[Phentex]

176. kick

:kick:

[Catchawave]

177. 701 and a kicky !

:toast:

[Colobo]

178. Obama!

[Capn Sunshine]

180. Clinton still at 10%

My other post prevented them from bringing the socks in like they usually do. LOL
Too bad we can't do that in the push polls the Clinton campaign does daily.

[rodeodance]

181. kicky poo

[RebelSansCause]

182. Kick, c'mon people we are still 300 short of our mark

:kick:

[scarletwoman]

183. It's fascinating. I've been watching this poll all day and the percentages have basically remained

unchanged.

Obama went from 9% to 10% early in the day, where he has remained since.

Kucinich went from 35% to 36%, also early in the day, and has also held steady since.

Clinton has stayed at 10%, and Edwards dropped from 31% to 30%.

I really do hope this poll reaches the 1,000 vote mark, but I suspect that the percentages will most likely not vary much from where they are now.

And while I realize that DU is most certainly NOT an accurate reflection of the Democratic-voting population at large, it's certainly interesting to see where the numbers fall within OUR community.

sw

[bobthedrummer]

185. I'm really intrigued at the Obama and Clinton battle for third place-very interesting.

Biden and Dodd compare very favorably to Clinton and Obama with the larger vote here too.

There's always been a lot of polarization here, I hope this larger poll breaks some of that down and that future polls routinely draw at least the type of response we're seeing for the first time.

We only need a few hundred more DU votes now, keep this kicked.

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST-IMPEACH CHENEY NOW!
:patriot:

[scarletwoman]

186. I really appreciate that you set a specific goal (1,000 voters) for this poll.

I think it makes it considerably more valuable than alot of the flash-in-the-pan polls that disappear after half a day.

I doubt, however, that this will have much effect on polarization here. But at least it gives a really clear and inargueable picture of where the DU "mainstream" is at.

sw

[Poll_Blind]

184. Kick! n/t

PB

[il_lilac]

187. done nt

[Radio_Lady]

188. Kicked & Voted... (too late to recommend) thanks.

[scarletwoman]

189. Does this need another kick? Okay, will do!

[scarletwoman]

191. ...

[flvegan]

192. Intriguing results, considering.

[More Than A Feeling]

194. For all the support Kucinich has in this poll

it is my perception that he doesn't have as many vigorous advocates as the other candidates do. There are lots of threads from known Hillary, Edwards, and Obama supporters, and even Biden's supporters are starting to get into the act. Kucinich? Not so much.

[scarletwoman]

197. It's because we don't have to keep justifying and making excuses for Kucinich to convince people.

Most DUers already KNOW that he stands where we stand. It's the people trying to sell us on candidates who DON'T stand where we stand who feel the need to put in all the extra effort.

[More Than A Feeling]

199. If Coke, McD's, and Wal-mart still feel the need to advertise

despite having probably close to 100% brand recognition in the U.S., your guy probably isn't exempt.

[scarletwoman]

210. Support for Kucinich shows up in thread after thread where specific issues are being discussed.

Kucinich threads are started whenever he makes a speech or puts out a new press release. There's no lack of Kucinich presence on DU -- in GD for sure, maybe not so much in GD-P; my impression is that most Kucinich supporters hang out in the GD and Editorials forums.

My point is that the Clinton and Obama supporters are pushing against the grain in DU -- just take a look at the poll numbers in the OP. They are constantly trying to convince a largely skeptical audience that they are right and the skeptics are wrong. I think that's why their posts stick out, sort of like running a comb through your hair and coming up against a blob of gum.

sw

[axollot]

198. Well then, Kucinich supporters get him out there! Hell if R. Paul can do it..........n/t

[2008]

202. kick (nt)

[gateley]

203. Kick nt

[bobthedrummer]

204. 3/4 there kick

let's get to 1,000 so that we can all have something to discuss and set a new standard here.

DU it.

[bobthedrummer]

205. Let's get to 1,000 today-and I mean asap

[bobthedrummer]

206. If I were a gambling man I'd bet we can DU this to 1,000 within the next 3 hours

but I'm not a gambler, I'm a DUer and, most of all, it's up to you.

Let's DU it.

Keep this kicked. It sure beats watching those MSM Sunday morning pundits.

[tom_paine]

207. Boy, those 77 people are vocal!

Hmmmmm, falsely maginfiying their presence to create a false bandwagon effect.

Where have I heard that before? :shrug:

[bobthedrummer]

208. An interesting personal note-I actually voted for both DK and JE in 2004

DK in the Wisconsin primary, and Kerry/Edwards in the general election.

I think that people are voting how they really feel in this poll, and damn, it may not mean anything in the real world but it signals some kind of a shift here.

We should be able to DU polls of at least 1,000 votes on issues too-considering all the energy wasted on trivial crap here.

[tom_paine]

213. A very good point n/t

[bobthedrummer]

209. .

[NMDemDist2]

211. almost to 1000, who forgot to vote? n/t

[bobthedrummer]

212. Voting is democracy in action-it's worth dying for in the real world.

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST-IMPEACH CHENEY NOW!
:patriot:

[bobthedrummer]

214. .

[RebelSansCause]

215. kick, someone crosspost in the lounge

:kick:

[scarletwoman]

219. Bob posted a link in the Lounge last night. Maybe you could go find that post & kick it up. (nt)

[blondeatlast]

217. Undecided, but voted as if I were in the primary booth. K. nt

[LWolf]

218. The more people vote,

the better I'm liking this.

:woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo::woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo::woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo::woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo::woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo::woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo::woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo::woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo::woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo::woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo::woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo::woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo::woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo::woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo::woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo::woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo::woohoo: :woohoo: :woohoo:

[ChiciB1]

220. kick!

[mvd]

221. Kucinich #1

In order of preference for the rest:

#2 Edwards
#3 Obama
#4 Dodd
#5 Clinton
#6 Richardson
#7 Gravel
#8 Biden

[LWolf]

222. Kucinich #1

ambivalent on most of the rest, except for obama/clinton, who are off my table.

[mvd]

224. Oh, I'm definitely voting for Kucinich in the primary

I'll vote for Clinton and Obama in the general election just because IMO without a Democrat winning, the U.S. might never recover from the Bush years.

[RebelSansCause]

223. kick

:kick:

[gateley]

225. Kick nt

[Catchawave]

226. 782 and kicking....

:kick:

[peace13]

227. Kicking.

Great job keeping this thing up there. Peace, kim

[jmp]

228. kick

...

[Catchawave]

229. Nitey-nite kick

:toast:

Definitely a progressive voting block so far :hi:

[mvd]

230. Nice to see Kucinich winning

:hi:

[southerncrone]

231. Kick

[peace13]

232. Good morning!

Let's get this thing to 1000 and be done with it. Peace, KIm

[Catchawave]

234. 796....kicking to make it 800 ?

:D

[jmatthan]

235. A truly amazing and a pleasantly surprising result

even though the magic mark of 1000 was not reached!

I wish everyone would shout this result from their roof tops!

[Renew Deal]

236. This convinces me even more than many Clintonoids are just paid staffers.

There's a disproportionate amount of Hillary noise here. I wish I got paid to post at DU.

[bobthedrummer]

237. Thanks to all DUers that voted! Very interesting results indeed, and let's get similar votes

in other DU polls in the future-we can certainly DU that.

Hopefully in less time. For those that haven't voted yet, you know what to DU.

[youthere]

238. Biden Biden Biden!

[bobthedrummer]

239. This will be my last kick of this poll.

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST-IMPEACH CHENEY NOW!
:patriot:

[peace13]

240. Kick with a question.

Are there really only 810 people out here and have we each checked on the pole four times? Come on people one last kick for votes. Let's get this puppy to 1000, Peace, Kim

[Catchawave]

241. Are we there yet ? A kick for 810 and counting.....

Keep on keeping on :kick:

[scarletwoman]

242. 811 kick! (nt)

[tnlefty]

243. Sorry, I can't vote as yet and I have until Feb 5th to make up my

mind between voting for the Kooch, writing in Al Gore, and I'm kinda liking Dodd, too.

[scarletwoman]

246. Just pretend you're in the voting booth on primary day -- what would you do? (nt)

[Mellowtone]

244. hmm Kucinich ahead almost 4 to 1

Over Hillary an Obama.


Those Kucinich people must be all the poor people in American who can't contribute 2300 to a campaign.

I guess that's why he's so far behind, votes don't count, $ do!!!!

[scarletwoman]

247. Heh... I think you're probably correct. (nt)

[Gonzo Gardener]

248. ...

:kick:

[The Sushi Bandit]

249. kick

[bonzotex]

250. kick N/t

[Roxy66]

251. Go Edwards!!!! You have my support.

[sueh]

252. Kicked for Dennis!!

[Psst_Im_Not_Here]

253. Kicking

For the last 180 some votes!

[scarletwoman]

254. *kick* (nt)

[Toasterlad]

255. Kicked for the "Unelectable" Kucinich, Who Is Kicking Everyone's Ass.

Funny how we keep hearing about how Hillary's got it locked up, and that Kucinich doesn't stand a chance. DU theoretically represents a wide range of Democratic tastes, and Kucinich is leading by a wide margin.

Now would be the cue for one of you DLCer types to talk about how unscientific and meaningless this poll is, so people don't get the wrong idea and realize they can vote for the person they REALLY want, not the person you TELL them to want.

[scarletwoman]

257. Heh. Lovely post. (nt)

[me b zola]

256. Dennis

[southerncrone]

258. Kick again!

:kick:

[scarletwoman]

260. Woo Hoooo ! Thanks! (nt)

[EFerrari]

259. Kick

[scarletwoman]

261. Yee Haw!

[2008]

262. kick (nt)

[scarletwoman]

263. Only 111 votes away from 1,000! (nt)

[DiverDave]

264. John Edwards

eom

[intheflow]

265. kick

[jmp]

266. I can't believe that it's taking this long ...

To get to 1000 votes. Even when it's made easy, people still don't vote. :P

[Catchawave]

267. 905 ! You're getting closer !

:kick:

I bet a lot of DUers sign on tonight for the debate !

[Lil Missy]

268. voted

[B Calm]

269. I voted for Edwards.. Be nice to see the Edwards/Kuchinich team..

[LanternWaste]

270. I voted, but I'm going to state who I voted for because...

I voted, but I'm going to state who I voted for because even at this stage of the game, I remain firmly undecided-- nor have I even ruled anyone out yet.

Anyways-- it seems that once one begins to back a candidate, many posters use that to judge in-totality who you are as a person, whether for good or for ill.

But I did vote, and so far the results are not as I would have expected...

[joe_sixpack]

275. I'm a bit disappointed

to see Joe Biden doing so poorly.

[scarletwoman]

276. Well, the poll is a snapshot of where DUers are at.

I don't suppose the Clinton and Obama supporters are seeing much to cheer about either.

sw

[jmatthan]

271. Question: Will this be the first?

If with another 89 votes the number of those who voted reaches 1000, will this be the first poll to do so?

And Dennis still hold sway!

[scarletwoman]

272. 82 votes to go now. Yes, this will be the first DU candidate poll to get 1,000 votes.

Most polls don't stay visible long enough to get more than 300-400 votes. This is a new effort to get a bigger than usual sample. I think it's very interesting.

Thanks for posting!

sw

[scarletwoman]

273. Big ol' kick! Only 79 votes to go to reach 1,000! (nt)

[intheflow]

274. kick

[scarletwoman]

277. 76 votes to go, to reach the 1,000 vote mark! (nt)

[peace13]

278. No fair! Dennis questioned *'s sanity just to get votes!

Just kidding. Bring the votes in. Maybe we will see 1000 this evening. Peace, Kim

[scarletwoman]

279. I hope so. I'd like to have something else to obsess about.

;)

sw

[2008]

280. kick (nt)

[scarletwoman]

281. 72 votes to go! (nt)

[scarletwoman]

282. 60 votes to go!!!! (nt)

[scarletwoman]

283. 45 votes to go!!!!

[scarletwoman]

284. 36 votes to go! (nt)

[flyarm]

285. i tried to vote Edwards and it said i already voted and i did not..this has happened to me before

as well..

i vote Edwards..it just didn't take on the poll!

fly

[scarletwoman]

286. That's a drag. I wonder if there's some setting on your computer that makes that happen?

Have you ever written to the administrators about it? Sorry you couldn't vote -- thanks for trying anyway. At least Edwards is doing quite well in this poll.

Best wishes,
sw

[scarletwoman]

287. 23 votes to go!!!!!!

[southerncrone]

288. Kick again! Only 18 more votes to 1000! Go DU!

:kick:

[cooolandrew]

289. This poll shows what an informed electorate can do...

... With a truly fair and balanced media these 2 would be fronting the race. It would make a far more intresting race to watch. Currently we have to watch 2 unsuitable candidates debate the most irrelevant issues.

[Tektonik]

290. I'm a DK supporter,

but after the last debate I could vote for DK or Edwards.

[boston bean]

291. kick nt

[peace13]

292. Two more, let's go!!!!

Great survey. Thanks for posting this. peace, Kim

[Clintonista2]

293. 2 more votes to go.. KICK!

[Maestro]

294. Voted for Kucinich!

:kick:

[madrchsod]

295. who is ahead ?...why it`s dennis

where are all the votes for hillary and obama? guess this really is`t scientific is it.

[Maine-ah]

296. kick

[Hawkowl]

297. Interesting results

The sample size is what is unique. What is interesting is the strong showing by Kucinich and Edwards and the lackluster showing by Obama and HRC. If we assume that DU is mainly hard core party activists than the vast majority are left wing and prefer a "peoples" candidate.

What I find even more interesting, is that HRC supporters are by far the most vocal and prolific of posters. The sheer number of pro HRC and pro Obama posts give the illusion of their being the run away favorites. It may be that these two candidates simply have a formal organizational presence on DU to pimp their candidates.

I don't think HRC or Obama is going to be able to secure the nomination.

[jmatthan]

298. More than just interesting!

I was watching this poll right from the beginning and the 35-36% for Dennis was carried almost all the way through the poll.

One would have thought that after the last debate there would be jumps for Edwards and Obama, but that did not happen and DK held fast to his 36%.

With over 100000 DUers, if they vote as they really believe who is the best candidate, it is clear that DK is the candidate of choice of DUers, although not of the media and corporate controllers of the media.

With a DUer base of 36000 for DK, which is what this translates to, there is no doubt that DK would win the election if it is free and fair, as being Democrats, it would become incumbent of all DUers to support DK!

But then, which American election has been free and fair?

My memory may be short and maybe someone could educate me on this! :sarcasm:

[bobthedrummer]

300. Compare this to the ongoing DFA poll which incldes Gore as a write-in

DK leads that by about 3% over Gore.

We need to have consistent DU polls that record more than a thousand DU votes-this should be easy.
Not just DU polls of all candidates, but on issues too.

It would be nice to see 5,000 DU vote polls regularly. That's a small percentage of our claimed membership. Interesting and very possible-it's up to DU.

IMPEACH CHENEY FIRST-IMPEACH CHENEY NOW!

[Boojatta]

299. Kick. It's not over until it's archived.

[Boojatta]

301. Kick

[LWolf]

302. a kick for the poll

with the largest DU response, showing most accurately without manipulation where DU really stands.

[bonito]

303. K

[faithfulcitizen]

304. wow, I'm really surprised by the edwards support on DU!

things have sure changed since 2004.

[scarletwoman]

305. Kicking this back to the front page -- I needed the link, so what the hell...