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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 06:28 PM
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Brian v Vinny
Brian v Vinny
By Nancy Greggs

In a recent address to NYU journalism students, NBCs Brian Williams bemoaned the fact that his hard-fought climb to the top of his field is now being undermined by "people who have an opinion, a modem, and a bathrobe".

Poor Brian, just another MSM child left behind in a world where the truth has found its internet voice, along with an audience that grows larger with every news cycle.

All of my life, developing credentials to cover my field of work, and now I'm up against a guy named Vinny in an efficiency apartment in the Bronx who hasn't left the efficiency apartment in two years.

How appropriate that right off the top, Brian was able to demonstrate his lack of journalistic integrity by presenting his own baseless assumptions as fact.

The truth is that your typical Vinny is an articulate, intelligent reporter; he could be a DC insider with political contacts, or a dogged researcher uncovering the very facts that the MSM deliberately ignores.

In all likelihood, Vinny has a successful career which affords him the time to devote to his avocation. Or maybe his blog has become so popular, it provides an income that keeps Vinnys bathrobe collection as up-to-date as his late-breaking stories.

What really gets Brians goat is the fact that Vinnys ever-widening audience consists of truth-seekers; intelligent, self-motivated people who have a wacky penchant for wanting the facts.

Thats a far cry from Brians followers, bored couch-potatoes who are willing to take his word for things simply because it beats having to exert the necessary energy to change the channel or, heaven forfend, actually think.

Brian just doesnt get it. Day after day, he serves his pre-digested, warmed-over, corporate-endorsed, nutrition-free pablum, and he wonders why the world is beating a path to Vinnys Place, where the news is served pipin hot by a guy who probably doesnt even have a personal manicurist.

Maybe Brian should use his alleged journalistic prowess to do an in-depth report on why Vinnys rise to the top was so inevitable. He just might learn something.

Perhaps the biggest difference between Brian and Vinny is the simple-but-obvious difference between spin and fact. Vinny doesnt have to check with his masters before reporting the news. He doesnt have to weigh telling the truth against the possible impact on his corporate employers lucrative government contracts, nor is he required to couch his reportage in language that certain politicos will find palatable.

Vinny can just call a spade a spade, while Brians rewrite team spends hours determining whether the terms shovel, spoon-like scoop, or soil relocation device will convey the same meaning without ruffling any feathers.

Vinnys biggest advantage is that he doesnt have to make a fool of himself by presenting commentary that the public knows to be utterly ridiculous, and todays top news story was a perfect case in point.

In the aftermath of the shootings at Virginia Tech, Brian had to blather on about how President Bush was once again uniting the nation during a time of tragedy.

Vinny, on the other hand, was free to state the obvious: Bush, whose approval ratings have taken yet another nosedive this week, showed up at VT in a desperate attempt to look like he cares thats the same Bush who wouldnt interrupt his vacation while NOLA was left to drown, the same Bush who continues to send ill-equipped troops to die in Iraq, the same Bush whose corrupt administration is unravelling as we speak.

Vinny just tells it like it is. Brian has to tell it like hes told to tell it all the while knowing that the public agrees with Vinnys view of things. No wonder Brian is so damned touchy on the topic.

And unlike the Brians of the MSM, Vinny has the ability to follow more than one news item at a time. While Brian repeats the same two or three facts of a breaking story like a human tape-loop, Vinny is commenting on a myriad of current happenings, continually updating as new details emerge. By the time Brian is allowed to move on to breaking story number two, its already old news to Vinny, whos covered two dozen additional items while Brian was busy re-reading his lone cue-card for the zillionth time.

Brian has the on-screen graphics, the designer suit, the fashionable coif, the eye-catching set. Vinny only has the truth and a willingness to tell it.

While Vinny has never met a fact he wasnt willing to share, Brian no longer recognizes facts that havent been folded, spindled, stapled and mutilated to the point where they have as much in common with the truth as Brians job has in common with journalism somewhere between zero and nil.

Hopefully, NYU will invite Vinny to address their students next time around, instead of yet another mindless corporate shill, whining about the inherent unfairness of a news-hungry audience that has the audacity to expect him to deliver the real news.

As Brian has so cloyingly stated his case, he has spent his life "developing credentials to cover my field of work". In other words, he has chosen the politically-correct wardrobe, along with the politically-correct delivery, and he has the sponsors to prove it.

The Brians of the world might well ask what the country is coming to when the public demands news media integrity, and refuses to recognize the talent of someone who may not be a journalist, but plays one so well on TV.

Well, as Vinny would say in response, "Maybe what the country is coming to is its senses."

Go figure.

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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 06:29 PM
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1. Yay! First Rec. .
(nice bathrobe!)
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 06:34 PM
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3. Thanks, annabanana!
I always don my lucky bathrobe before posting!
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JeffR Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 06:32 PM
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2. make it 5
!

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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 06:41 PM
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4. Oh, beautiful! Just beautiful! One of your best yet!
It's obvious to any thinking person that Brian Williams' "credentials" consist of a good hair stylist, expensive suits, the willingness to suck up to the corporate powers-that-be, and -- most importantly -- the ability to read a teleprompter without stuttering.

That, and a massively inflated sense of self-importance...

sw
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svpadgham Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:24 PM
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34. Kinda' Wondered
what the credentials were. Honestly, I'd never heard of Brian Williams until he appeared on the Daily Show, so I highly doubt he did some great and wonderful journalistic work previously. But, I'm just a schmuck that reads Vinny's work.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 06:41 PM
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5. Wonderful, Nance! Thank you!
:applause: :applause: :patriot:
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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 06:48 PM
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6. I'm looking for more Vinnies.....
Thus far my growing list includes Josh Marshall, Greg Palast, Amy Goodman, the folks at Firedoglake, HuffingtonPost...

Then I come to DU and for indepth analysis I look to H2O Man....

and for wit, wisdom, and attitude I look to NanceGreggs...




Then I laugh at Brian Williams. :evilgrin:




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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:58 PM
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15. Point at the corporate media and laugh.
Brian Williams and his fellow propagandists have an ever shrinking audience. As the Russian people ignored the Soviet Official news, our media is looking the same as TAAS, Izvestia and Pravda. It's all junk news, and now that they've lost a good portion of their audience to Vinny in the robe, the Brians are lashing out. All they really had to do was live by the standards of a true free press that acts as an unofficial, independent government watchdog. Instead they've been lapdogs, fearful of losing access and compromising their integrity. Everything changes once the lying starts. It's not the news they've covered that has the corporate media in a bad light, it's the news they fail to cover. They still ignore the treasonous act of exposing an undercover CIA agent.
Treason by those holding the levers of power should be the headline every day until the issue is resolved. High crimes and misdemeanors bring impeachment. Treason has a noose in hot pursuit. High government officials tried and convicted and sentenced to hanging: Now that's a story that would sell ink and be a major pay-per-view event. The proceeds could settle the national debt.
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BleedingHeartPatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:15 PM
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7. Excellent and inspirational. Cheers and recs to our inner Vinnies.
Edited on Tue Apr-17-07 07:16 PM by BleedingHeartPatriot
: :toast: :kick: MKJ

edited because the plural of Vinny is Vinnies, of course.
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CaliforniaPeggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:23 PM
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8. My dear Nancy!
Whew, another one out of the damn park...

Good on you, girl!

It never ceases to amaze me: We have a wacky penchant for wanting, of all things, the facts!

Imagine that.

You go, girl!

K&R, as always...

:patriot:
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Bjorn Against Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 07:53 PM
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9. Great job once again Nance...
I did my senior project in college studying hours upon hours of television news footage, and the results of my study were so horrendous I have hardly laid eyes on television news since. I am obsessive about having to know the latest news, but I simply refuse to get the news from television anymore. Your post illustrates why. Keep up the good work.
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Irishonly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:39 PM
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10. Wonderful
Briam Williams and others like him lost their edge years ago. They aren't reporters now. They work for corporations. Me, give me a room full of Vinnies.
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here_is_to_hope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:40 PM
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11. Three stars and a rocket!
What a great read and I loved how you illustrated the pointlessness of the msmsmsmers or mesmiririres...er, I need another :smoke:
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:42 PM
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12. Back, back, back,back, back
It's outta here. He shunta hung it over da middle like dat.
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Dem_in_Nebr. Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 08:49 PM
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13. From the "Amen corner" ;-)
Amen, Amen and Amen Again!!!!

Preach it, Sister, PREACH IT!

(Sorry if my use of Religious language offends but -- hey -- it expresses what I feel!!)
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ladym55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 10:24 PM
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14. Yep, we all need more of Vinny, less of Brian and his buddies
Excellent post!

And naturally Brian (whine, whine) doesn't get WHY he has no credibility--folks really don't WANT to see some well-dressed nimwit read the latest corporate-approved talking point. We want genuine information NOT spun for the benefit of the people in power.

Anyone who wants to be a journalist needs to stay far away from msm. The msm is the place for good-looking bubbleheads to attempt to read teleprompters (and not always successfully). And that pretty much sums up Mr. Williams and all his pals at NBC.
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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 11:03 PM
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16. Or maybe Vinny is somebody who just gives a damn
Edited on Tue Apr-17-07 11:08 PM by rocknation
and is tired of his news watered down by politcal, corporate, or commercial considerations that get in the way of THE TRUTH!

:headbang:
rocknation
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argyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:37 AM
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17. Damn. That one came to rest in the Fenway parking lot. n/t
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 01:53 AM
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18. Nance -- you rock. Outstanding. n/t
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eridani Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 02:30 AM
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19. "Soil relocation device"?
You mean a leveraged tactile feedback geomass delivery system, don't you?
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emanymton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 04:15 AM
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20. Yo, Vinny. Your 'NanceGreggs' Is Showing!

Since the beginning, people have always been able to see through the snake oil shtick. Your commentary is common sense and right-on.

When Vinny is ask by NYU to speak, make sure he takes his 'NanceGreggs' with him.

Rock'n
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 10:01 AM
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21. Nance hit another one out of the park...

You never cease to amaze me with your spot on commentary.

Last time I looked, Vinny doesn't work for NBC, and as a by product General Electric, which we all know is a DEFENSE CONTRACTOR among other cute and cuddly things.

And if Brian should somehow lose his high paying, perk laden job to Vinny, he can always fall back on his considerable skills as a WHORE.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 10:04 AM
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22. Maybe we should all chip in and get Brian a bathrobe, so he will stop his whining,
surely G.E. owned NBC can front him a modem.

Thanks for the thread Nance Greggs

Kicked and recommended
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 10:11 AM
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23. We know what he's been covering
And it ain't his credentials.  Or maybe it is.  Then there's
the mortgage on  his correspondent's cabin on Nantucket.  Or
is that David Gregory?  I got two new bathrobes for Christmas
- write on! 
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 10:38 AM
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24. The fact that he bemoans some guy named "Vinny"
Implies a negative connotation to most guys I know named Vinny: Italian Americans.
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SusanaMontana41 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:41 PM
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25. Great post as usual
I haven't liked Brian Williams since he said photographer Alan Diaz was "lurking" around the Gonzalez home to get the now-famous photo of little Elian.
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rhiannon55 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 12:52 PM
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26. Woot, Nance! YOU are one of my favorite Vinnies!
You are amazing, Nance! Thanks for yet another beautifully written, insightful rant.

:woohoo:
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Fresh_Start Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 01:16 PM
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27. Brian your job has been outsourced
to people who are more competent and willing to work for less.

Maybe you should get retrained.
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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 01:39 PM
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28. "may not be a journalist, but plays one so well on TV"
:rofl:

Brilliant!
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kcass1954 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 01:57 PM
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29. Newsflash to Brian - Vinny didn't undermine anybody; you did this to yourself. n/t
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 02:10 PM
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30. Brian is a good example of how ambition sometimes trumps
attention to the actual task at hand. If Brian would take a few cues from Keith Olbermann he wouldn't be so bothered by all this. But then, he wouldn't be a highly paid network king of the hill, either.

The world of news is changing. It's difficult for the clingers-on of the status quo.

It also occurred to me while watching reportage on the campus shootings that a dozen to thirty folks are killed by a walk-in murderer in Iraq every day. Bodies are found tortured and slain. How's Bush doing in that department as a national leader?

There is such a disconnect in the corporate media when it comes to reality and emotion, and human beings outside of our borders.

K&R. Good one, Nance.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:04 PM
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32. Brian Williams: Buggy whip manufacturer in a motorized age
Edited on Wed Apr-18-07 03:05 PM by gratuitous
For someone making millions of dollars a year, Williams is kind of a whiner, isn't he? It's not enough that he gets to be on the teevee all the time, that he cashes a paycheck every week bigger than most people's annual income, and that he does it all without having to do any heavy lifting or to work outside (unless it's really nice). He must be loved, too.

Poor Brian.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:28 PM
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35. He's taking a buggy whip to the competition.
Edited on Wed Apr-18-07 03:45 PM by Kurovski
Like that's gonna help.

There are more of us than there are of them, it's why I take all threats to the internet seriously. They'd love to control it and the message as they do elsewhere in the media.

Brian just works the PR end of it by painting us as folks with "modems and bathrobes." Which of course turns those of us who get dressed by noon :-) even further away from the Brians of the corporate media, their credibility further suffering a loss.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 02:26 PM
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31. Pretty Face TV News
Journalism ended when TV news became a show presented by only those with perfect teeth and hair and clothes. I liked it better when newsmen appeared with sleeves rolled up and hair disheveled. Then at least it looked like they had been working. I thought these people knew they weren't journalists but merely spokesmen. I've hated them since the beginning of the Iraq war where they failed miserably to question what was being fed them by the WH even to the point of suppressing contradictory information. They gave rise to internet news because people wanted news with truth rather than just opinion and propaganda. The internet is now as powerful as MSM for people who want to find the truth of the events without corporate approval. Thanks to the internet appearance is not important just substance. Thanks to the internet opinions can differ but their support can be easily substantiated. Now, thanks to the 'internets' facts can be checked. "Now the only way to not know is to not want to know".(Robert Penn Warren from 'All The King's Men') What a blow to Brian's self important ego. If he truly has earned journalistic credentials then I look forward to reading his blog. Way to go Nance. I think we are all tired of TV ego whine but you always have the greatest way of expressing my attitude and a hell of a lot more interesting than watching Brian Williams acting.
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Vinnie From Indy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 03:23 PM
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33. Sometimes I vary the spelling!
Brian Williams had it coming!!! :)
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 04:10 PM
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36. Vinnie, you rock!
Edited on Wed Apr-18-07 04:13 PM by Uncle Joe
:yourock:

Edit for P.S. But maybe you should get out more and see a movie or something, two years is a long time to be staying in your apartment.

P.S.S Also do you have an extra bath robe you can give Brian Williams, he's hurting big time?
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 04:51 PM
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37. Poor Brian is SO OUTCLASSED
in a "content of character" kinda way. ;-)
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tblue37 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 05:32 PM
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38. He is such a friggin'
spokesmodel! The promos for the Virginia Tech special that NBC aired Monday all showed Brian doing that look-down-then-glance-up-solemnly-as-you-turn-toward-the-camera pose that is so contrived, so ridiculous.
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democrank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 05:39 PM
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39. Poor, poor Brian.
All that preening and genuflecting and Brian is outdone by some guy sitting around in his pajamas. Priceless.
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StrictlyRockers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 05:56 PM
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40. Rocket to the top for Nance's latest rant. Hits the nail on the head as usual.
In this case the nail is Brian William's over inflated ego. Is it a requirement for these guys to be full of themselves?
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FrenchieCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 06:16 PM
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41. REALLY EXCELLENT!
Edited on Wed Apr-18-07 06:17 PM by FrenchieCat
:thumbsup:

Here's to you and Vinny!



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rgbecker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-18-07 06:46 PM
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42. Furthermore...
Brian will have to turn to the web to get any feedback on his days work as his media continues to avoid any actual contact with the consuming public.

The internet rocks!

How soon will they start closing it down?
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