August 27, 2001 PNAC : A Green Light for Israel

[chill_wind]

by whatever means necessary, and with whatever American material and financial support it takes. And no carping from American citizens to be tolerated. Got that?

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August 27, 2001
A Green Light for Israel
Robert Kagan and William Kristol


"But the president should do more than resist foolish counsel. He should assert true American leadership by suspending our role as the Middle East's honest broker, on the grounds that the peace process in which such a role might conceivably make sense has given way to a condition of war. He should make clear that for the duration of this war, which has been thrust upon Israel by Yasser Arafat and his Palestinian Authority, the United States is morally and strategically compelled to support its ally. He should let it be known to the Israelis, the Palestinians, and to the Arab world that Israel will be allowed to fight the war by the means it deems necessary, without American carping and with whatever American material and financial support may be required. Strange as it may seem to our foreign policy establishment and to the international club of peacemaking professionals, an American green light to Israel could actually create the conditions for stability and peace in the region. But even if it didn't, there is no alternative consistent with American interests and moral obligations."


http://www.newamericancentury.org/middleeast-20010827.htm

[bloom]

1. yeesh

"without American carping and with whatever American material and financial support may be required"



And that is what some are advocating here. The people who just can't believe that anyone would be opposed to this. They want no "carping". :grr:


Carp, carp, carp.

:nuke: :nuke: :nuke:

[chill_wind]

2. Correct.

But we shall not be shut up.

[calimary]

3. Jesus, Mary, and Joseph, what ARE they smoking?

"Strange as it may seem to our foreign policy establishment and to the international club of peacemaking professionals, an American green light to Israel could actually create the conditions for stability and peace in the region."

Yeah, SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRE.

bill kristol pulled this out of his own ass from the same general area where he found the rationale for how well Iraq would go. He must have scored some mighty fine stuff... maybe from limbaugh?

[chill_wind]

5. Honesty is not their known M.O. and forte

Recall the Aqaba pipeline business from the 80's. Almost all the players are still very much around.

"What happened to the pipeline deal? What trade-offs were made? Who were the players? How did Israel fit into the scheme? What impact did it have on current U.S. policy?

For answers to these questions, and links to the original memos and declassified cables, read GNN’s Cointel interview with the report’s lead author Jim Vallette here":


Flashback: Crude Vision
Thu, 08 Dec 2005 12:12:13 -0800



By GNN
Rummy, Saddam and the secret history of the Aqaba Pipeline

http://www.gnn.tv/articles/1936/Flashback_Crude_Vision


In other words, the same stuff they've been smoking and passing around for decades.

[walkon]

4. Yes, but

that is pre-9/11 thinking. Of course everything enacted by this administration is.

The "international club of peacemaking professionals" are such a bunch of wimps. Where would we be with out the great Neocons to lead us to peace and prosperity? (Sarcasm)

[chill_wind]

6. See also this very good current thread here: (link)

Philosoraptor
Tue Aug-01-06 10:07 AM

10 yrs. on, the Project for a New American Century is going VERY well

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x1786138

[chill_wind]

7. Can we get this digested by more than 3 or 4 Duer's?

2 more recommends would help.

Thank you to those who did read, comment or recommend.

[jonnyblitz]

8. kick and recommend!

:hi:

[bvar22]

9. Too many otherwise intelligent Progressives....

...have bought into this nonsense. :scared:

[JackNewtown]

13. That has been the elephant in the room in the discussion of Israel here

There are many who are quoting straight from the PNAC playbook. As long as they are about Israel, PNAC's views are accepted among the progressive community as "progressive" and legitimate, although PNAC is nearly universally reviled among progressives for its views on Iraq and the world in general.

[rman]

10. kick

[GrantDem]

11. Warmongering at its finest...

These people need to seek help...

[Hell Hath No Fury]

12. Kicked...

and recommeded.