Truth about semi auto firearms

[michreject]

http://patdollard.com/2008/11/the-truth-about-semi-auto-firearms/

Everybody in the U.S. needs to see this. Very imformative.

[EstimatedProphet]

1. Considering it's on an Ann Coulter fanblog, I'll pass, thank you.

[michreject]

2. Didn't get it from there and never been here

Why have you?

Got it from 1911 forum. That's OK, you can stay ill informed and ignorant.

[EstimatedProphet]

17. "Ill informed"?

OK, Mr. Wizard, here's the blogroll from right under the article. Perhaps you should read the whole thing:

blogroll
A Soldier's Perspective
Ace Of Spades
American Soldier
Ann Coulter
Attack Machine
Awesome Web Design
Bane Rants
Bare Naked Islam
Bill Ardolino
Bill Roggio
Black Five
Blonde Sagacity
Breitbart
Chicagoray
Confederate Yankee
Day by Day Cartoon
Euphoric Reality
Flopping Aces
Free Republic
Frontier Web Design
Hollywood Trenches
Hot Air
Hugh Hewitt
Ian Schwartz
Instapundit
Jihadi Killer Hour
Jules Crittenden
Larry Sinclair
Little Green Footballs
Matt Sanchez
Michael Fumento
Michael Yon
Michelle Malkin
Military.com
Missiles And Stilletos
Move America Forward
MsUnderestimated
Mudville Gazette
Obambi
Pass The Ammo
Protest Warrior
Roger L. Simon
Sportsman's Outfit
Stop The ACLU
TCOverride
The Belmont Club
The Big God Blog
The Crimson Blog
The Daily Gut
The Drudge Report
The PoliTicking Timebomb
The Pundit Review
Veteran's Affairs Documentary

Ann Coulter, Free Republic, Hugh Hewitt, Protest Warrior - all the big Cro-Magnon blogs are there. Regardless of the message, the blog owner is a freak on a leash. Feel free to hang around all the conservative blogs you want, but I resent when you link to them here. Just like 90% of DU does.

And before you jump to the conclusion you are about to jump to, I own several semiautomatics.

[michreject]

19. Because you can't dispute or find fault with facts

You search for something to get enraged over and ignore the message, true as it may be. But to you, truth is irrelevant.

[Howzit]

4. What San Jose Police have to say about it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysf8x477c30&eurl

[iverglas]

22. thanks, you just saved me a trip

:puke:

There isn't an item posted in this forum that doesn't come from someplace just like.

Fish in a fookin barrel, it is. ;)

[alexandria]

3. Thank you very interesting/ NT

[Howzit]

5. AK 47 firepower

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vgr3kTU68uw&feature=related

[michreject]

6. I started to post that on too

But the gun grabbers would have went ape shit because of Knox presenting the facts.

[rangersmith82]

9. Great video!!!!

I'm going to start another thread to get this info out.

Thanks

[tularetom]

7. Jesus what a strange blog

This dipshit read too many Sgt Rock comics as a kid.

Oh, the film is OK if you didn't already know the difference.

[rangersmith82]

8. bump!!! and recomended!!!!!

2 more votes to get this to the greatest page!!!!

[rangersmith82]

10. We need one more reccomendation !!!

To get this to the greatest page!!!

[pepperbear]

11. except for the fact that the blogger is a fuckstick conservative.

[slackmaster]

13. Several people seem to be unable to get past the source and comment on the content

That's a real shame.

[nichomachus]

15. Yeah, sort of like when Ralph Nader or one of his supporters says something

[michreject]

16. Wouldn't know about that

Does that in any way change the facts?

spellin

[iverglas]

23. guess that makes you ill-informed

[michreject]

25. Gladly about Republican websites

What's your excuse.

[X_Digger]

26. Nevermind..

Don't worry about iverglas, if it doesn't come from a 100% blue source, to her it must be ultra-right wing (whatever the information is. If (insert right wing nutjob here) said the sky was blue, she'd argue for yellow. Don't tell her, but even a stopped clock is right twice a day.)

[iverglas]

27. a stopped clock may be right twice a day

but it's a damned funny thing how all that you people can ever find is stopped clocks.

If you really want to know the time, why do you never consult a functioning clock???

If I wanted to know the time, myself, I wouldn't go looking for a stopped clock and hope it had beaten the massive odds.

If I want to know what colour the sky is, I don't consult someone who lies 99% of the time and hope I beat the massive odds.

And if I want to find opinion that is worth considering, I don't go looking in right-wing cesspools on the off chance I might find some.

And if I found myself nodding and agreeing with as much shit from as many right-wing cesspools as the denizens of this place do on a regular basis, I'd make an appointment with my psychologist. He's big on "values", and the importance thereof to a healthy personality.


And if you have something to say to me, feel free to do so. Or you can keep gossiping and sniping, if you're not up to the job.

[X_Digger]

30. Bah, wasted effort..

self-edit pre-post

You know what? I'm not going to play your game. You have fun with yourself googling any name or organization attached to any posting, finding some vast right-wing connection to anything anyone finds that doesn't agree with you. If it makes you feel better, be my guest. I feel sorry for you that you can't evaluate anything on its' merits. Must be a dang small world for you.

I don't mindlessly regurgitate what any political party says I should. I agree with about 75% of the democratic platform, and about 15% I'm ambivalent about. The other 10%? Wholeheartedly disagree. But you know what? I think for myself, and I'm proud to do so. I don't automatically look for truth from one source above all others, be it a bible or a party platform. No one group has a lock on the truth on _any_ issue.

I know a lot more democrats who are against draconian gun legislation (confiscation, bans) and their precursors (registration, high ammo taxation, ammo stamping) than those who are for them. From my perspective, the democratic leadership just hasn't caught up with the rest of us (or needs to come back to us, depending on how long you've been following the democratic party.) Considering the increase in 'gun friendly' congressfolk, the increase in concealed carry even in states with solid democratic control, and the removal of anti-rkba legislation from the proposed agendas of many state legislatures, I'd say the national party should catch up eventually. That doesn't stop the token bills that get introduced every year and die in committee, but hey, the congressfolk have to at least give a nod to those groups sometimes.

Another important part for me is demographics. Not as many rural democrats who are more likely to share my views start blogs, or become popular when they do. I have my local 'gun' hangouts, and the split is about 60/40 R/D. Funny thing is, when you start talking to a lot of the R's, depending on class, they're espousing democratic ideas. Enough so that I think that were the democratic leadership to take a different stance on RKBA, we could lock in control nationwide for more than the next 8 years.

So sure, more repugnican blogs pick up stories like this- it's one of their token issues. (I say token because they're no more 100% on the other side of this fence than democrats are solidly on this one.) I refuse to let the repignicans frame the issue as a dem vs rep one just as much as I refuse to let them claim the high ground on financial issues when it was deregulation that set the stage for the financial crisis we're currently mired in.

Have fun flagellating google to look for the elephant menace in every corner.

[iverglas]

31. pretty much

You'll notice that the words "Democrat/ic" and "Republican" didn't appear in my post ...

[EstimatedProphet]

18. NO! Of course he isn't! Why, that;'s ill-informed!

[Cronus Protagonist]

12. Huge difference... well, not really

The primary difference is how many finger movements per bullet. So someone can shoot a semi a little slower than a fully because of the required finger movements. Why is this distinction important? A shooter can only shoot N rounds a minute versus NN rounds a minute. Both stop when you run out of bullets. Doesn't seem to me to be much of a thing to get all lathered up about.

[needledriver]

14. He makes some good points.

It's a shame that he glosses over some things. He missed a chance to contrast the difference between semi and full auto - on the semi auto weapons he lets off the trigger after each shot. Good weapons handling, but at least one time he should have held his finger on the trigger to show that the weapon would not keep firing. After all, that is the point he is trying to make.

When he pulls the receiver covers off the two semi auto AK's to show how similar they are, he glosses over the fact that if he pulled the receiver cover off the full auto AK it would look the same as the other two.

Nice demonstration - turning a varmint huntin' Mini-14 into a scary assault rifle!

[Prophet 451]

20. Got to agree about the blogger

Video's pretty good (albeit, a little "firearms for dummies") but the blogger's a wingnut.

It does highlight an important point: The difficulty of coming up with a workable definition of "assault rifle". What my father (ex-RAF) would mean by the term is entirely different from what a layman would mean by the term which is again entirely different from what a politician would mean by the term.

[michreject]

21. And we're not helped by the media

calling everything an assault weapon in order to sway public opinion.

[iverglas]

24. "It does highlight an important point:"

Yeah.

The people pitching hysterical fits in this regard (or pretending to ...) -- to a one, given the complete inability of anyone in this forum to come up with any other kind of source, ever -- are right-wing morons.

Certainly tell us something, don't it?


typo fixed

[Prophet 451]

28. Huh? n/t

[iverglas]

29. Eh? n/t

[Prophet 451]

33. I didn't follow what you said n/t

[AtheistCrusader]

32. This video is old, and has fuck-all to do with the blogger.

Why don't people just link to the fucking youtube video.

Also, ha-ha looks like you guys trampled the crap out of his bandwidth for the month.