How Do you Feel About The News Today of Saddam's Capture?

[joeybee12]

Poll question: How Do you Feel About The News Today of Saddam's Capture?

I have to expound on number 6--because I ran out of room. What I mean is there'll be lots of celebrating, gloating, etc., before the media settles down and starts asking about why it took so long, why it cost so many lives, and when the eventual attacks keep on coming, everyone realizes that our soldiers aren't any safer, nor is the world safer now that we've got him.

Poll result (131 votes)
Sucks--Dumbo and Gloating Repukes on TV all day!	(5 votes, 4%)	Vote
Sucks--Freepers gloating	(0 votes, 0%)	Vote
What News? Did I miss something?	(1 votes, 1%)	Vote
It's great, even if we have to put up with gloating	(44 votes, 34%)	Vote
Well--if he was in a hole, how was he coordinating all thsoe attacks?	(11 votes, 8%)	Vote
I'm turning off the tv for three days until the media asks REAL questions	(57 votes, 44%)	Vote
I feel terrible--give him a shave already! And a bath!	(1 votes, 1%)	Vote
Check the hole--that's where those WMD's are!	(1 votes, 1%)	Vote
It's great--this is the one thing I supported Dumbo on	(1 votes, 1%)	Vote
Other	(10 votes, 8%)	Vote

[greatauntoftriplets]

1. I'll watch the local weather forecast.

[ikojo]

2. I get the weather forecast sent to me via e mail

through my-cast.com. So there is no need to watch the weather reader on the corporate news.

[Wcross]

3. I am glad he has been captured

He needs to stand trial and answer for what he has done to his people. Our troops may be home sooner than if he hadn't been captured. I don't care for the mission, but I support the troops.

[THUNDER HANDS]

4. well...I guess I'm "supposed" to feel good about this

Because he is a <repeat like the good sheep that I am> "brutal dictator" who "killed thousands of his own people."

But he was also a guy who posed no threat to us. And a guy who managed to keep a hostile area of the world relatively sedate (albeith through brutal tactics). And a guy who was a secular muslim leader instead of a hardcore fundamentalist.

But I think in cold, crass political terms. I think it's good for Bush so I think it's bad for me. So I'm not happy, and I don't care if it's politically incorrect to say so.

[joeybee12]

14. My gut reaction was "Shit"--good news for Dumbo

And speaking of politically incorrect, I'm glad it happened now instead of next October!

[piece sine]

45. but what really being a liberal?!?!?

Not too long ago, when dictators-for-life (who slaughtered a third-of million of his own people and dumped them into mass-graves) were finally captured and brought to jutice, liberals would cheer! Truly celebrate! Wrongs righted...and all that.

Now we're just supposed to sulk because it's temporarily not expedient, politically?! I'm not real comfortable with such a thick layer of hypocracy, so I'm going let myself feel good about the Iraqis cheering that Saddam is off their backs. We can stand a fight another day. This is a historical moment that's been a long time coming. AndI'm not going to let DU's bizarre, rampant pessimism submerge my common sense. This is good news. Even Dean said so.

[joeybee12]

46. Hey, how good is it? He never posed a threat, it doesn't change the

situation in Iraq--the attacks on US troops will continue, and the world is now a less safer place because Dumbo spent all our resources on this pointless charade.

[PDittie]

5. I'm tellin' ya....

the WMDs were in there with him, but the soldiers thought it was just empty whiskey bottles and a shopping cart.

When they went back to look again, they were gone....AGAIN.

[joeybee12]

7. Yeah, and they completely overlooked the command center he

had set up in that hole.

Seriously, how are they gonna spin it when the attacks just keep on comin'??????????????????????????

[OldEurope]

6. Other: what are they going to do with this man???

[joeybee12]

8. A so-called trial, and then execution--what else?

[OldEurope]

10. But ...

oh, I´m not sure, but: then he would be kind of martyr or so. No good idea.

[joeybee12]

12. I absolutely agree with you that it's not a good idea--he will become

a martyr. But I doubt the folks in charge of the whole shebang will agree with us. I think they see the execution as setting an example.

[OldEurope]

18. so...suicide?...cancer?

[joeybee12]

No, they'll execute him--and make a big to-do about it!

But only Faux News will get the exclusive rights to showing it live!

[acmavm]

9. CNN just said that Gen. Sanchez has said that we can expect attacks

to go up for a while now. I think he's being tooooo optomistic. The attacks are going to increase. The Iraqi people will not demand our exit because the main focus of our supposed intentions has been captured. The Shi'ites will really start to kick Sunni ass, and the Sunni's who've suddenly lost power and status will start to fight back.

This is the non-event of the season. The guy was never going to come back into power in Iraq anyway. He was doomed to spending the rest of his life hiding in "holes". And I would sure hate to be an Iraqi native of Tikrit right now. That whole town will be declared a "terrorist" region simply because he was there hidden for so long.

In the long run this will make the Shi'ites bolder, they will demand we leave now and let them decide the fate of THEIR country because of this.

By the way, can't you hear the negotiations for Saddam's confession as we sit here? "Hey Saddam, you just tell the world that you had WMDs and chemical and biological weapons and we'll see to it that you spend your remaining years in a nice, country-club type prison with all the amenities of home. Satellite tv, microwave, the works."

Oh yeah, and how much access will the outside world have to the guy? We'll never know what he really has to say, what really was going on. Because just like the rebuilding contracts in Iraq that we are going to control completely, the Administration is going to tie this guy up so tight and cut off all access to the outside world. The only stuff that's going to come out is what they want to come out. And I think it will be as dependable as the rest of the "intelligence" that we've gotten about the Iraq situation to date.

[joeybee12]

11. Yeah, just like the non-event of the statute toppling

Dumbo, Holy Joe and Fux news were gloating ad nausea, and then reality set in.

[pansypoo53219]

13. BFD

where's osama been forgotten? waz up in afganistan? Jobs?

[joeybee12]

15. BFD is certainly the reality of this story, but it's not how the media wil

play it.

[CanuckAmok]

29. what is "BFD"? n/t

[joeybee12]

31. SeriouslY? If you are, then BFD stands for....

Big Fucking Deal!

[Hubert Flottz]

16. OTHER!

Poppy Bush should have caught Saddam years ago!

[IronLionZion]

17. I expected this closer to election time

You should feel proud of our military for getting him. Keep your heads up, we can still win in November. I expect some wmd by then but still keep on fighting.

And where the hell is Osama, the guy who actually attacked us?

[chenGOD]

27. Yeah the Kurds who tipped off Iran really messed it up for BushCO

I bet Rove is just steamed, they were supposed to capture him next year in October!!!!

[leftofthedial]

19. I'm surprised more than anything

I never thought they'd take him alive--not because he'd fight to the death--but because a live Saddam is dangerous to the Bush GOPNAC Cabal.

As for the occupation of Iraq, I doubt it will make much difference.

This still begs the question about why we invaded in the first place. Conquering the country, killing Iraqis, capturing Saddam--it all only has meaning because the Bushies tell us so. By what authority do we invade and occupy another country and arrest its citizens?

The American media will never ask this or any other of the right questions.

He was never a threat to me or any other American (at least until Bu$hco invaded), so his capture is inconsequential. I'll go about my family and holiday activities today as usual.

[Fleshdancer]

20. I would rather watch this

than anything dealing with Michael Jackson.

[Zuni]

21. glad he is off the streets

and happy he will not be an October Suprise. Face it, he would be caught sooner or later--he has too many enemies

[OldEurope]

23. So you think, they´ ll have him at Guantanamo till next summer

and then have a show trial? NO good idea

[proud2BlibKansan]

22. "No Gloating"

is the official word from the White House.

yeah, right

[joeybee12]

25. Welcome--and you're right! Gloat is Dumbo's permanent expression!

He can't physically wipe that smirk off his face if he tried--it's genetic!

[amandae]

24. Still trying to figure out how he plays into the "war on terror"

Where's Osama??????????? Now that capture I could get behind celebrating (even though I realize that it wouldn't be the end to al Qaeda and someone else would take his place as leader once he's captured!). It's difficult to celebrate the capture of this man when I don't feel we should have been there in the first place. Yes, he's an evil man, but it's something we didn't mind (hell, we SUPPORTED him!!!) not so many years ago, all of a sudden he's the devil incarnate???

How can repugs gloat over this?? The attacks against soldiers will still continue, because the people of Iraq don't want us there!! They don't want us to occupy them and maybe our soldiers haven't been briefed on this but our policy with Israel doesn't exactly make us the most popular country among Arabs! I firmly believe that the attacks against our soldiers were not in support of Saddam as much as they were to show that they don't support U.S. occupation.

[joeybee12]

26. Good rant--and you're absolutely right!

[Roon]

28. Thrilled!

The next four weeks is going to be very interesting.
Signed,
an information junkie

[joeybee12]

32. Do you believe there'll actually be "information" coming out of all

of this, or just more propoganda????????

[amandae]

34. If you live in the U.S. - propoganda

If you live anywhere else in the world - information.

[joeybee12]

35. True, the capture of Saddam is merely symbolic, and hard questions

that will expose this farce will NOT be asked.

[CanuckAmok]

30. I thought: "Damn! Good, albeit irrelevant, news for BushCo"

Then I thought... "Well, at least now that he's captured, we can concentrate on bringing to justice every other tinpot homicidal dictator we've installed throughout the world".


HAHAHAHAHA! I KILL me!

[45th Med]

33. TV OFF! Can't stand all the gloating and sucking up going on right now...

how pathetic!

[dawn]

36. I agree, TV News Off!

I'd rather watch VH-1 Classics and laugh at the 80s videos than watch CNN.

Today's capture was good news for the Iraqi people, but I hate to see all the media slimbags verbally masturbating all day. Barf.

I still don't think this bodes well for Bush in the long run. I still think he'll be removed from power.

[Liberal Christian]

37. Call me a cynic

I just can't help wondering about some timing. I can't help wondering if we actually knew where Saddam was for awhile and were keeping him under wraps for capture when the Evil White House Cabal needed something to deflect attention from something like the current allegations about Halliburton overcharging.

Am I tooooo cynical???

[Braden]

38. Saddam was a murderous thug

but it still doesn't justify the war. Thats how I feel. They can gloat all they want. Our soldiers will continue to die over there. This war is hardly over.

The whole future of a nation hangs in the balance and we just removed the one man all Iraqi's feared. Who's next?

[joeybee12]

39. True, and he obviously wasn't a murderous thug behind all the recent

attacks--wonder how they'll spin it as the bombings and killings continue.

[fortyfeetunder]

40. I smell a plea bargain ( if Saddam squeals on Osama)

Nothing would get the Chimp all hot and aroused than Saddam spilling the beans on the whereabouts of Osama binLaden. I bet there will be some type of plea bargain or special dispensation offered by the US for Saddam if he can tell exactly where Osama is hiding.

[joeybee12]

41. The problem with that is that I'm sure Saddam has no friggin' clue

where Osama is.

No correlation--that's the huge problem with us invading Iraq--it's not part on the war of terror.

[VOX]

43. This presupposes that Saddam knows where OBL is...

It's no secret that OBL *hates* the secular Saddamn, so it's a fair guess that the ousted dictator hasn't the foggiest notion of OBL's whereabouts.

[VOX]

42. It's a sideshow, designed to "wow" and divert...and it changes *nothing*

Sad to say that Saddam, human-rights nightmare that he has been, is rather irrelevant now. His capture changes nothing about our situation in Iraq, nor will it appreciably soften the feelings of the Iraqi people and the Middle East at large toward the American presence there.

[joeybee12]

44. Amazing how the world's most dangerous man was in a lousy hole

Like he ever posed a threat to us.

[Kathy in Cambridge]

47. The Attacks on Our Troops Will Continue; I'm not Hopeful

Saddam was a man on the lam with only a few allies left in Iraq. I would feelbetter if they got the WMDs, but we know they never existed.

Since he had nothing to do with 9-11, I still worry about the security at home. I would feel safer if they committed some of the money to securing our country rather than giving it to Halliburton to 'rebuild' Iraq. Oh, by the way, where's Osama?

[cmf]

48. We don't have TV right now.

And I've never been happier about it. Too bad NPR was falling over itself with the news, too. Had to turn it off. Don't people realize that it doesn't change anything? Bush. Lied. To. Get. Us. To. Go. To. War.

[rbnyc]

49. I answered this in a thread that will probably...

...be archived with zero replies in about 10 minutes over at GD

link

[AlFrankenFan]

50. A mix between gloating and turning off the tv

I'm just pissed right now, yet saddened

[Djinn]

51. If I beleived the "bringing democracy" crap

I could be MUCH happier - Hussein is gone, something that some of us have been calling/agitating for, for a long time (way back when Rummy was all pally with him and shaking his hand for a photo op)

but as I don't beleive for a second that the US will allow free elections (as they would without a shadow of a doubt elect a party that will nationalise the oil industry and repeal a number of the dodgy "contracts for rebuilding") I don't see a lot to celebrate from the Iraqi point of view - does it really matter which dictator is oppressing you, and as the US has a vested interest in NOT having a trial (way to many skeletons waiting to come out there) and justifying the lies they told to go to war in the first place I fully expect to see a "confession" from Hussein detailing that he HAD WMD's, was actually sleeping with Osama and planned to attack the US at the first possible opportunity...then off to live comfortably in exile for a while - Saudi could do after all they were happy to put up Idi Amin - what's one more local dictator to feed.

The ONLY reason Saddam has been left alive is to bail out chimpy

[liberalmuse]

52. Repulsed.

I'm tired of the Bush sideshows, and I don't like what America has become. This is a very temporary coup for Bush, but once they keep showing the weary and pathetic-looking Saddam complicently being taken into custody, I think it's going to backfire. They should have cleaned him up, gave him some PCP, waited until it kicked in good and hard, and then arrested him. But hell, I'm not going to tell Rove how to do his job.

I'm happy for the Iraqi people, if that means a damn thing, and it doesn't. We've bombed their country into the stone age in order to find non-existent WMD's and to pad an idiot's presidential resume, but they should thank us, because we saved their asses by pulling their former dictator, a pathetic shell of a man, out of a hole. At least our soldiers now have something tangible to grasp when they wonder, 'What the hell am I doing here?'

So what if it's a fantasy, and Saddam was a third-rate dictator among a slew of dictators who would not have the fraction of power they gained had it not been with the help of our tax dollars?

So what if our tax dollars are right now being spent in an attempt to overthrow yet another democratically elected leader--Chavez, no doubt to replace him with a Saddam-like monster who will disappear his people, but what the hell? He'll sell us cheap oil. And then, when another Bush needs a poll boost, he can capture, then parade his former friend in front of the cameras and have the American people indignantly screaming for blood and revenge against a dictator that was never a threat to them, while the people who actually suffered under this monster have no recourse whatsoever.

Time for another beer to take the bad taste out of my mouth.