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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 02:34 AM
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Confirmed beyond a shadow of a doubt: freepers ARE racist
"For 2004, Bush Has Strength in the White Male Numbers"

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1047543/posts

For the sake of my argument, whether that's accurate or not isn't important, their reaction is. One poster actually equates "white male" with "sane":

To: FairOpinion
Translation: Mr. Bush leads among the sane.
4 posted on 12/27/2003 10:27:48 PM PST by JennysCool
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 02:36 AM
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1. hold on, SOME freepers are racists, others are just stupid...
gotta be fair...
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 12:41 PM
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35. No, ALL freepers are stupid, some are also racist.
A minor, but important detail!

:hi:
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felixrayman2 Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:06 AM
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2. question
Having read some of what is on the FR site, and being familiar with the FR response to dissent, I have a question for you. Can you handle dissent? If a poster from Free Republic decided to create a login and post on this thread, would you debate him or would you try to get his rantings hidden? Do you have the courage to debate unpopular ideas?
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:16 AM
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3. I suggest you read the forum rules
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 03:24 AM by 0rganism
This is NOT a liberal-conservative debate site, any more than "free" republic is. Whether or not any particular forumer would debate a freeper in this thread is secondary to the fact that a moderator would likely disable the login. This is not because DUers are incapable of such debates, or even especially unwilling to partake in them, but rather because this is not the place for it.

If you wish to arrange a debate to take place on another site, I recommend you start a thread with the proposal and a brief topic blurb in the subject line, followed by a time and URL for the debate in the body of the message.

e.g.

Subject: debate challenge -- are white males the only sane people?
Message: Joe Soandso wishes to have a debate on the topic of the sanity of minorities and females at 7:00 PM Sunday, at the forum
http://www.foobarbletch.com/foo/bar/bletch/board.php?1,...
Joe Soandso will take the affirmative position, "White males are the only sane people in this nation."
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:31 AM
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4. Deleted message
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:39 AM
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5. Whoa! That was so quick, I didn't even get to read the post
The problem with having a debate on this website should be abundantly clear right about now.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:41 AM
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7. see below
i ad a humorous, sardonic come back for him and a chance to enlighten the poor troll to Bartcop's errrr...well, wisdom?
http://bartcop.com/
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:50 AM
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8. Are you a bartcop regular?
I haven't checked the site in about a month, and it's been a lot more than that since I've read his forums.

The problems with the bartcop debate are (1) that he's kind of specific in the requirements, and (2) it's a live debate on IRC. I don't know if I would willingly walk into a debate like that. Ideally, we'd have a specialized forensics site, with a special thread given write-access only to moderators and an agreed set of participant accounts. That way, one could have a serious non-degenerative debate.

Perhaps FR and DU should collaborate on this as a joint effort? Sort of a DMZ, if you will, to satisfy what actually is something of a void.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:52 AM
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9. Deleted message
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:58 AM
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11. Hey, you should read my post
Edited on Sun Dec-28-03 03:59 AM by 0rganism
I am not the one who deleted your comments, by the way.

> You people really are as bad as the Free Republic, you literally can not stand dissent.

This is not a debate site. I told you how to get a debate. You should really pay attention more often.

> The last message saying that was censored, this one will be too - that's a shame.

Figure it out. There are ways to get a debate set up at another site within the rules.

> The Free Republic does the same thing, you are better than them how exactly?

The "free" republic does the same thing, because they are not a debate site. We are "better" only in the sense that this site supports an ideology we find preferable and considerably more rational.

> You aren't. You're cowards - you cower in fear at the first sign of a real debate.

I've told you how to set up a real debate. Your comments are ad hominem, and unwarranted. That's just sad.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:09 AM
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TheDonkey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:19 AM
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13. Don't flatter yourself
It's been made painfully obvious this is NOT a debate forum. There are debate forums out in the world wide web. DU is specifically for progressive debate and conversation.

If it's not your cup of tea then leave.

The only thing sad I see is you arguing a mute point.
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dutchdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:27 AM
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14. Bye
Bye

Here lies a disrupter...
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0rganism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 04:39 AM
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15. Worse than a disrupter, a whiney little biatch.
Appalling, really. *snort*
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 06:43 AM
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24. Looks like a site I would like. Saved to look at later.
I go on one from England I really like and used to go on other and lost it and can not recall name. It is some place on my PC and I will find one of these days.
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 07:09 AM
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25. It is not even remotely fascist. You should consult a dictionary.
Are you familiar with the US Constitution? You should read it sometme.
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 06:37 AM
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23. Wrong I love a good dissent. Bring them on!!!
I read FR daily so I can see a view other than mine.Some times they are right. I do get a little up-tight over the 'kill anything that move' out look. I mean I came out of that party and one of the things when I grew up was the GOP wanted to keep its army in the USA and not waste money on endless wars. Where that went to is beyond me.My husband was one of the troops and we always knew we would get nothing from the GOP.
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RBHam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:40 AM
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6. Hey! Them's fightin' woids!
Seriously. We found that it degenerated into personal attacks and inanities, besides there are many newsgroups that offer such a service...

I hear aguy named Bartcop will debate you. But he's undefeated. No one dare challenge him! Freepers have been known to stain themselves at the mere mention of his name!

Yes, the mighty Bartcop is salivating as we speak.
"Must have fresh flying monkey meat, am hungry..."

Och! 'Tis no a sight for a proper gentleman or lady, I assure you.
Bartcop shows no quarter, gives no pity...

THIS is the man you seek, my son...
Through Bartcop, you may find enlightenment...
And the courage to win the second War on Fascism!

Enter, if you dare. And remember:
"Abandon all hope, ye who enter here."
http://bartcop.com/
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 05:49 AM
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19. Deleted message
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slor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 07:17 AM
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27. question back at ya!
"If a poster from Free Republic decided to create a login and post on this thread" You mean kind of like you?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:36 AM
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33. this isn't a forum for debate
I come to the DU to get away from facist creeps like freepers.
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proud patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 03:55 AM
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10. What's the saying again?
Not all republicans are racists but all
racists are republican or Something like that :hi:
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 05:31 AM
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16. oooh -- that's funny
that tickled my funny bone -- stop that!
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cirej2000 Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 05:48 AM
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18. Tickled my funny bone too - Me and Senator Robert Byrd
We're laughing all the way to the Klan Meeting...oh wait. Senator Byrd is a Democrat?
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 06:00 AM
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20. and you stood up to bush better than he did
how?
get a grip on reality.
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cirej2000 Donating Member (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 06:05 AM
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21. Pretty darned tight hold on it.
The man's scum.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 06:11 AM
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22. takes one to know one
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snippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 07:17 AM
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26. Rather than change his party like other racists, Byrd chaged his views.
Most racist dixiecrats became republicans. Republicans adore racists since their vote is so easy to get. Haley Barbour's support for racism is a recent example, but the best example occurred in the 2000 South Carolina republican primary when the Bush campaign spread the rumor that John McCain had a nigger daughter. This not only appealed to Bush republicans, it also defined Bush's character, values, ethics, honesty, integrity, and Christianity.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 05:35 AM
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17. hmmm?!?! debating racism
there's an idea who's time has come -- and gone.
why must conservative reactionaries prove their limited mental abilities over and over and over again?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 07:23 AM
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28. A brief perusal of threads there will prove that beyond doubt.
Follow any thread that has anything to do with the following:

Iraq
Immigration
Welfare
Jesse Jackson
Al Sharpton

Their racism is not even "thinly veiled" any more.
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 08:53 AM
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29. amen
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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:05 AM
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30. Not only racist, but homophobic and misogynistic as well
They had a thread last year in which several freepers wanted to see the 19th Amendment (which gave women the right to vote) repealed because they decided that women were too "stupid" to vote. I kid you not!
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:09 AM
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31. it's fallacious to draw that conclusion
Just like when people repost things from DU to prove that we hate the troops, or like Saddam Hussein, or whatever.

One thing I think that could be said is that FR has a pretty high tolerance for racist discourse.



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jsw_81 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 09:32 AM
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32. There is a difference
The instances where DUers posted something really outrageous are few and far between. On Free Republic, it happens several times each day, day after day after day for YEARS. And the offending posters are hardly ever disciplined or banned. In some cases they're even encouraged by the site's owner.
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Cocoa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 10:19 AM
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34. maybe so...
but this thread lacks that backup evidence. On its own, it's faulty to make anything out of it.

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sid dicious Donating Member (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-28-03 12:47 PM
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36. Sigh...
I'm sure that they don't even believe that they're being racist. That's the sad part. Maybe it's not about racism...it might be about intolerance, fear of not being the dominant race in America anymore and maybe they feel that their Western European culture is being yanked away from them.

Still it sure does make a great breeding ground for racism. Sounds like all of the conditions in Germany circa 1933.
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